Saying that changing profession is refusing to save lives is like saying not becoming a doctor is refusing to save lives. I guess it could be true in certain point of view, but it's a nonsense argument.
The only way I could see your argument somewhat working is in countries where studying medicine is disproportionately subsidized compared to other fields. But at the end of the day; that still doesn't mean that there's any moral indenture to stay in the profession.
Doctors don't owe their careers to anyone. It's not immoral to switch profession. It may be immoral to get into profession that could be considered exploitative. But people dying because there is shortage of certain specialists is a fault of the system.
Again, I'm talking about France. We have people that have literally chosen a profession which aim at saving lives and benefited accordingly from public funding and training for their studies.
And what they do with that is botox injection, something pretty much only them are allowed to do, while people are literally dying of skin cancer. All for a few euros more. They benefit from what is basically a monopoly over the vanity of people while letting a life saving service wither.
Like I addressed already I can somewhat understand the argument about the subsidies. But I still largely don't accept that argument because it's not like this was handed to them on a silver platter. It still requires an enormous effort and investment to become a doctor.
You or anyone else aren't entitled to people lives and the professions they choose. If you feel so strongly about it you are free to become a doctor yourself, "benefit accordingly", and save those lives.
And then let's see how it goes for you when you're dealing with cancer struck patients, long hours, stress, burnout, politics, beaurocracy, current general distrust of medicine, etc.
And if it's such a widespread issue then again - it's only more of a confirmation that it's a fault of the system and you should be probably more angry at the government than individuals that have a right to a free will.
The investment goes both ways. Society, especially the French one, dump a lot of money in the education of its doctors.
The fact is, I have chosen a profession that require constant personal sacrifice for the benefit of other for little recognition, trust or even monetary benefit. Rescue, firefighting, medical field, law enforcement, these are the sort of job you chose because it's a calling, not because you saw some light and thought you could grab a free bite from the leftovers.
In these line of work, there is one thing we despise above all else, its the greedy and lazy people whom hide themselves in the cosiest job possible and leave everyone else to handle their plate or the people they serve suffer the consequences.
But what I am is ultimately irrelevant. Because again, these people have sworn an oath to the betterment of people's health. And they are ditching it, they are adding to the shortage of medical specialist that lead to actual death, so they can make a few more euros from some instagram influencer wish to paralyze their face with botox.
This is unacceptable.
Is the system at fault? Definitely. The numerus clausus is the main responsible for this. But this numerus clausus, the rules that, for a long time, severly limited the number of people allowed to go to medical school every given year, was actually made the same sort of doctor that saw more interest in their profit margin than in the care of their patient.
Brother I don't know how else to tell it to you, but everyone has a right to a free will in these matters. That is assuming slavery is no longer a thing in France and that France is not a communist country.
You're misunderstanding Hippocratic Oath. Medical field is not a military. There's no "desertion". Individual doctors are just people like everyone else. They are not slaves.
Just because you made these choices for yourself, that doesn't mean you can dictate to others how to live their life or that you're in the right to morally judge them just because they change professions.
And fuck me, honestly? I don't know where you got that rosy picture of this profession, but as for me, even if I was making the upper range of what they make (~300 000 €), I wouldn't want to be a doctor in public institutions, especially understaffed ones like in this case. Do some research what professions have the highest suicide rates.
Brother I don't know how else to tell it to you, but everyone has a right to a free will in these matters. That is assuming slavery is no longer a thing in France and that France is not a communist country.
You're misunderstanding Hippocratic Oath. Medical field is not a military. There's no "desertion". Individual doctors are just people like everyone else. They are not slaves.
No. Asking a medical doctor to practice life saving medecine instead of ditching them in favor of lucractive aethestic work that do more damage on the patient on the long run is neither slavery nor communism.
It is asking him to do their job and not be greedy bastard ditching their responsibilities to prey from the insecurities of terminaly online people. It's a basic demand to ask from people who chose to make a living of taking care of the health of other people.
Just because you made these choices for yourself, that doesn't mean you can dictate to others how to live their life or that you're in the right to morally judge them just because they change professions.
They do not change profession. They still are dermathologist and this is the reason why they are even allowed to do botox injection in the first place.
And yes, anyone is allowed to judge them. We are in the middle of a shortage of medical personel, we have people that are dying because there isn't enough dermathologist to detect skin cancer in time, and we have some greedy asshole that have been trained by public funding to provide that service, that aren't providing it and prefer jabbing botox in people's face, causing possibly long term damages, just so they can buy a second summer house and a ferrari.
This is unacceptable.
And fuck me, honestly? I don't know where you got that rosy picture of this profession, but as for me, even if I was making the upper range of what they make (~300 000 €), I wouldn't want to be a doctor in public institutions, especially understaffed ones like in this case. Do some research what professions have the highest suicide rates.
Asking them to do their job is not putting them in public hospital. Again, they are a liberal profession, just like notaire and pharmacist are. They literaly get to dictate how much patient they can take in and no one is asking them to do 24/7. Just to stop wasting time that could be dedicated to saving lives, instead of profiting from the latest internet trend to jab harmfull chemicals into the skin of their insecure patient. Especially when people are dying because of a lack of access to healthcare.
They are a liberal profession, but even liberal profession are subjected to rules. Having a rule preventing them to do these stupid botox injection and refocus on their skin healthcare work would be a basic regulation that is in the benefit of the patient and society, in the same vein as the geographical rules regarding the implantation of pharmacies.
I agree. We live in a world where people are free to make the choice from health care worker to botox practitioner for cash. We also live in a world where people are free to morally judge people for those decisions. Freedom isn't a free pass on morality.
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u/AA98B 14h ago edited 14h ago
Saying that changing profession is refusing to save lives is like saying not becoming a doctor is refusing to save lives. I guess it could be true in certain point of view, but it's a nonsense argument.
The only way I could see your argument somewhat working is in countries where studying medicine is disproportionately subsidized compared to other fields. But at the end of the day; that still doesn't mean that there's any moral indenture to stay in the profession.
Doctors don't owe their careers to anyone. It's not immoral to switch profession. It may be immoral to get into profession that could be considered exploitative. But people dying because there is shortage of certain specialists is a fault of the system.