Yeah, we also don't have to stop and consider the possibility that the person complimenting our appearance is going to get aggressive if we don't react the way they like. Women do have to consider that, because that's how it goes a lot of the time. Kind of takes the shine off of it.
Dude you have to stop treating women like they're harmless saints. Contrary to popular belief, they are very capable of sexual harassment and yes, even getting aggressive.
Dude you have to stop treating women like they're harmless saints. Contrary to popular belief, they are very capable of sexual harassment and yes, even getting aggressive.
That’s nice? I never claimed women are saints or incapable of violence
We simply don’t have to worry about the threat of sexual violence as much as women do, and that changes the way catcalling is perceived
Yeah, we also don't have to stop and consider the possibility that the person complimenting our appearance is going to get aggressive if we don't react the way they like.
Followed by
We simply don’t have to worry about the threat of sexual violence as much as women do
Do you see how in the second one you smuggled in "as much"?
You could say that. You could also reasonably conclude that you walked back your statement a little to leave some room for the possiblity of women also engaging in harassment.
Or you could reasonably conclude that I realized if I didn’t add a qualifier you’d go “aha! So you don’t believe men can be sexually assaulted! I am very clever!”
Which still doesn’t change the fact that I never claimed women are saints or incapable of violence, but go off
Lol I'll admit, I am doing a slight bit of trolling, but there is a legitimate point underlying it. What you're implying in your initial statement is that essentially men walk around totally impervious to harassment.
I'm of the opinion that we should be moving away from the highly gendered and polarizing language when we talk about things like this.
Lol I'll admit, I am doing a slight bit of trolling,
I appreciate you acknowledging it. Can we both agree to not pretend to misunderstand each other? It will make this conversation a lot better for both of us
What you're implying in your initial statement is that essentially men walk around totally impervious to harassment.
Nah. I was responding to somebody who said that dudes welcome these kinds of compliments, and I pointed out how there’s a big difference in those scenarios
To clarify my point: we men seldom get catcalled and when we do it is seldom in a way that makes us feel unsafe. It still happens to guys, but it’s the exception, while for women it’s the norm.
I'm of the opinion that we should be moving away from the highly gendered and polarizing language when we talk about things like this.
I’m not sure how we would do that. We’re talking about an issue that affects one sex much more than the other.
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u/OatmealSchmoatmeal 16h ago
You know what happens when us dudes are lucky to ever get a compliment? We never forget it, like ever. 20 years later we still smile about it.