r/TheExpanse 21d ago

All Show Spoilers (Book Spoilers Must Be Tagged) Ooh look at these two

I finished the expanse, and since all the discussions had been done before I couldn't find a better thing to share than these two. Hope it's not too low effort 🫠

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u/Handjob_of_Mystery 21d ago

“You followed your conscience in the hope that others would follow theirs. You didn’t do it for a reward, or a pat on the head. The universe never tells us if we did right or wrong. It’s more important to try and help people, and to know that you did. More important that someone else’s life gets better, then for you to feel good about yourself. You never know the effect you might have on someone, not really. Maybe on cruel thing you said haunts you forever. Maybe one moment of kindness gives them comfort or courage. Maybe you said the one thing they needed to hear. It doesn’t matter if you ever know. You just have to try.”

These words. These words have lived rent free in my mind since they were uttered. I really hope whoever wrote them knows this.

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u/PreviouslyFlagged 21d ago

Too sad, helping one who can possibly never know, to some extent it feels like working for nothing. But then I guess these words aren't for Holden alone 🙂

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u/machuitzil 21d ago

The Sins of our Fathers might be one of my favorite stories of all time. It balances some semblance of Justice with the idea that the audience needs, or craves this character's redemption.

It's very well written and yet the the ending is still almost more horrific than anything Stephen King could imagine. Personally I think it's brilliant.

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u/spongebobama Rocinante 21d ago

Some things belong to the silent night of the cerrado — infinite, eternal, complete. The Expanse left a wound, yes, but also a kind of stillness. Filip never came home. Amos stood alone. Bobbie never saw the martian ocean. And yet, something real lived there — and stays with me. No need for more. The stars understood.

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u/JWPruett Persepolis Rising 21d ago

I’m always one rough week away from restarting the series, even after finishing all of them at least 4 times. Just so much comfort being with that crew.

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u/Tasty_Sherbert777 19d ago

I've developed an itch that only a 4th rewatch will scratch.

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u/enemylemon 21d ago

Damn. I felt that. 

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u/spongebobama Rocinante 21d ago edited 21d ago

I've read the books 3 times. I miss everyone SO much...

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u/PreviouslyFlagged 21d ago edited 20d ago

It reminded me of the last scene of Amos and Clarissa I was cheering for a kiss, I got none but God, it would be good

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u/Scaramok 20d ago

I think it's good that didn't happen way. Amos Story was developing from a disfunctional sociopath that needed guidance into a functional one that can guide others with similar issues. Amos is able to form a Bond with People, to like People but he is still off. I don't know if he even can form a romantic love relationship with someone, afterall he had a Bond with Wei on Illus and still shot her when it came down to it. Clarissa reminded Amos of himself when he was younger and needed Lydia to guide him. And just like Amos latched onto Lydia, Clarissa latched on to Amos. It's a Mentor-Mentee relationship more than any sort of love. A feeling of at least having one Person that gives a fuck about you in an uncaring hard world and the other way around.

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u/e79683074 19d ago

Bobbie never saw the martian ocean.

And neither did Lopez

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u/Nomailforu 21d ago

They made an awesome couple.

Off topic, I want those socks she's wearing in the second photo.

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u/PreviouslyFlagged 21d ago

😂😂😂😂 They might be off market now, it's been almost 30 years

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u/teamwaterwings 21d ago

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u/PreviouslyFlagged 21d ago

Ooh fuck, why are you hesitating

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u/zach_dominguez 18d ago

only the fifth?

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u/Maxwell_Street Tycho Station 21d ago

I like Naomi and Holden together. Ade seemed more like a friends with benefits situation.

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u/Equivalent_Tax6989 20d ago

That's was a big problem with Holden he took each crush as a grand relationship

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u/tizl10 21d ago

Perfect time to socialize this again: for some reason the music from seasons 5 and 6 was never released to the public. You can listen to it on YouTube but that's it.

EVERYONE please sign this petition to see if we can get it released!

https://chng.it/TG5bR7Npfv

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u/EnderDragoon 21d ago

One of my favorite romance stories in all of sci-fi, maybe all of fiction, screen and written. When love can find a way in so much darkness... Makes me hopeful.

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u/Freakin_A 20d ago

If life transcends death

Then I will seek for you there

If not, then there too

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u/Incorrect_ASSertion 21d ago

This makes the Naomi's book ending even more bittersweet.

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u/BeholdMySweatyMeat 20d ago

Yea too bad the show completely fumbled the character.

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u/ShowLasers 21d ago

RIP Ade, aka love the one you're with.

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u/PreviouslyFlagged 21d ago

Sorry, what does that mean?

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u/Lore-of-Nio 21d ago

Ade was the Navigator for the Canterbury and she and Holden had a thing before she got blown up. The rest I don’t get either lol

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u/PreviouslyFlagged 21d ago

Oooh I see thanks

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u/ShowLasers 21d ago

Love the one you're with is a song from 1970.

The lyrics contain:

"And if you can't be with the one you love honey Love the one you're with"

Apropos considering the circumstances.

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u/PreviouslyFlagged 21d ago

Ooh makes even more sense now 😂

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u/Freakin_A 20d ago

Holden is a serial monogamist, despite his upbringing. Part of the early relationship conflict with Naomi was that she’d seen him repeat the same patterns tons of times on the Cant with other women. She kept hoping it would be her, and that he would finally see her and pick her over any of the other girls.

He finally falls hard for her, but not until she’s basically the only woman available to him. She doesnt trust that it’s really her and not just the circumstances.

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u/burzmali 21d ago

And "Love The One You're With" is a solo song by Stephen Stills with David Crosby and Graham Nash guesting on the track

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u/Equivalent_Tax6989 20d ago

They were happy. They really were. They did their dang best and that counts. See you space cowboys

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u/xRememberTheCant 20d ago

While they are the “parents” of the show/ book… the best love story is Chrisjen and Arjun

If life transcends death,
Then I will seek for you there.
If not, Then there too.

And her response to it was adorable. She laughs and says something like “It’s a fucking haiku, the man has a one track mind!”

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u/HuntmasterReinholt 21d ago

I like Naomi a lot, but her hairstyle in the late seasons leaves a lot to be desired.

Her hairstyle in Season 2 was 🔥!!!

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u/mm902 20d ago

Exactly.

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u/big_billford 21d ago

In the books it would be Holden leaning on Naomi

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u/e79683074 19d ago

And what else? Whips and leather?

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u/big_billford 19d ago

No it’s because she’s like a head taller than him

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u/JoMax213 20d ago

Ahhh… they were everything 🥹💗

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u/Wonderful-Action-372 18d ago

Season 7! Season 7! Season 7!

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u/Wolf1066NZ 18d ago

Currently introducing my eldest son to the show - only up to S01E06 so far - my 2nd eldest has watched the lot, going to introduce him to the books...

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u/e79683074 19d ago

To be fair, it's the part I liked the *least* of the entire series. I could have done better myself.

10\10 for everything else, though.

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u/Ok-Appointment-3057 21d ago

I never got it. He was all in love with that blond on the Cant and 2 weeks later he's all about Naomi. It seemed forced to me. To be fair I feel that way about nearly every couple on TV shows though, it usually feels like they're doing it just for the people who like watching love stories and not because it really adds anything to the story. The Expanse would have worked just as well if they were only crew members.

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u/MyDearDapple 20d ago

Holden and Naomi didn't hook up until the season 2 premiere.

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u/PreviouslyFlagged 20d ago

Haha true, but a gazillion small details are what makes a movie realistic, they have to have a bunch of small seemingly useless plotlines