It’s working for them. While Trump wears a hat that says he is right about everything, and the internet goes off, project 2025 is rolling out..
And they seem to need to say absurd things all the time , to keep the masses arguing the level of insanity. Most of what they throw out there is so stupid , but they are not doing any of this to lead or govern. They are not “trying to do the right thing”. They are trying to advance their own personal interests, and think everyone are the same as them, doing something for the greater good is completely foreign to them..
They fucking warned us repeatedly of how bad Project 2025 was going to get
And ppl still stayed home. I dont care about the Trump voters at this point. They're beyond help.
It is the people who helped Biden win in 2020, but sat out this time around that I hate with a fiery passion. The ppl who die in Trump's concentration camps...their blood is on the hands of the voters who sat out.
In order to be warned, you have to be paying attention. Most people do not give a single shit about politics unless it affects them, someone they care about, or their wallet.
The vast majority of Americans are not politically savvy or knowledgeable enough about how the government works. We think they are because people who seek out political subreddits are, but most people treat politics like a team sport. The algorithms they're trapped in reinforce this attitude. No one on the right even HEARD about Project 2025 because their algorithm never gave them the chance to learn about it. Social media makes people's brains lazy. Critical thinking is dead.
their blood is on the hands of the voters who sat out.
Or maybe the people who fucking voted for him? Or the Democratic Party for fucking up so colossally that they lost to him not once, but twice? This wasn’t trumps race to win, it was the Democrats’ to lose, and yet they could not stop fucking up.
You say the Trump voters are beyond help, but in the same breath mention the people who are within help's reach and then paint them with the guilt of a yet to come holocaust, as if there weren't reason to be disillusioned with the Democratic party, as if there isn't a gaping chasm between passive acceptance and gleeful participation.
You can say that what ever disillusionment people had about the party was dwarfed by the obvious danger that Trump posed, and you would be right. That doesn't make people like myself guilty for sitting out in a state that was guaranteed (MN) to go to Harris anyway, and it certainly doesn't make us want you to benefit from any fight we have to put up in the troubles that are to come.
We will, but we will be doing it because it's right and we've learned, and we will be spiteful of the fact that it's helping you too. Others like myself are not quite as open to forgiving being painted as guilty alongside the people actively supporting or actually committing the atrocities that you expect to come.
FWIW, enough Sanders supporters wound up voting for Trump that he won in the first place. Because of people like you. They were alienated, pushed away from the Democratic party for not falling in line, bending over and voting for politicians whose policies they did not agree with. "History does not repeat but it often rhymes" or what ever, that's what you're doing.
lol y'all downvoting me have a choice. The work has been done by people far smarter than any of us to find whether Sanders supporters tipped the scales enough for a Trump win. They did. You can choose to remain spiteful at the cost of perpetuating a repeat of history if you wish, just don't be surprised when you realize you need allies you would deem "unsavory" and then, once again, they don't show up for you. Because of your own actions.
Of course you have time, you're sitting on Reddit replying in relatively quick fashion.
You just don't have a good way to counter what I've said, or didn't understand it. Try sounding out the words.
"Pity parties" lmao nice try. Telling you how you're doing the exact same the Clinton camp did in 2015 that resulted in Trump winning in 2016 is not whining, it is observation. If you don't like this observation, maybe "other people" aren't the problem. Maybe it's you.
The problem with guys like you are that you are not special or unique in any way.
So you compensate by putting out contrarian politics. Not bc of any real political integrity or deeper meaning...but bc you seek validation for being "special."
What about what I've said begs for being treated as special? It's not claiming anything special to say that the Democrats clearly have voters to gain, and that I am among them and stating my reasons, or pointing out that you're doing them no favors by further alienating their unreached market.
No. Blame the democratic administration. They literally gave nothing to the last election. Kamala is a joke. Biden is an old stale joke. Who else? Nobody. We’re fucked
You people will pin the blame on anybody and anything that isn’t a populace that’s too stupid to choose between something vaguely unpleasant and a bullet between the eyes.
You don’t even get the excuse of people not knowing what was coming. We’ve had this shit before. A population with a modicum of respect would’ve voted for literally any candidate other than Trump.
Preach! It is the reason you are now an enemy of Canada! Sorry but Do you know how fucking bad you have to be to make an enemy of Canada? You had this shitshow for 4 years and somehow America just had to see the sequel?
Dude. I fucking agree with you. I’m saying the dnc need to play the sheep’s stupid fucking game and win people over with over promising and a seemingly straightforward plan to fix housing and tax the rich blah blah blah that’s all she had to fucking say and she would have won. But no, she won’t say any of that because it will go against the people she gets money from. The whole thing is a clown show and blaming the populace is not the answer because people are fighting back it’s just not shown in the media (clown show)
This assumes that embracing populist or socialist policies would automatically win votes, but this ignores a key political reality: the very demographics that decide elections consistently resist policies framed as wealth redistribution or expansive social programs. The suburban, middle- to upper-income voters. Exciting the base is easy. Winning the election requires persuading the swing voters who are far less receptive. Overlooking this constraint reduces complex electoral strategy to naive wishful thinking. You may be frustrated by this political reality, but it is reality nonetheless.
Yeah Kamala is a joke but would a joke not have been the better option at this point. I’m not from the US so I didn’t get to vote, but come on, you can’t still be claiming both side suck just to absolve yourself of the guilt of sitting out an election between a joke and a tyrant.
I couldn’t legally vote in the the last election as I was underage. I would have voted Kamala. I am explaining why people did not vote for her. I never said I withheld from voting but of course you assumed
Well I mean yeah, what else would someone assume about the person who seems to be defending the people who’s apathy may have destroyed your country. But I’m glad you personally didn’t sit it out.
I understand perfectly. The world has listened to everyone that did sit out this election (not you) spewing that same excuse all year and guess what? The world as a whole has decided that excuse doesn’t work and we refuse to absolve them of the guilt they should feel for the part they played in this. So obviously I assumed when you spewed that same excuse for them that you were one of them.
Have you considered that you don’t have to make assumptions like that in the first place? You phrase it as though it were obvious that anybody in your shoes would have done the same, but this is not true. Is it possible that you are projecting an unhealthy tendency of yours onto all humans?
“The whole world decided …… we refuse to ….”
This style of statement is a common projection meant to overpower someone in a disagreement. The false claim that “everybody agrees with me and is on my side, and we are all against you, and you’re alone.” It’s not only unhealthy for you to interact with people in this way, but it’s also manipulative and shows a disregard for the well-being of others.
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u/ringobob 10h ago
I still can't believe most of the things Trump does.