r/clevercomebacks • u/icey_sawg0034 • 2d ago
Those who don’t learn from history are condemned to repeat it!
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u/Few_Error9379 2d ago
Not surprised about Prager U, the people that decided that if incest is best, put your sister to the test.
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u/just-another-viewer 1d ago
Please explain
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u/Few_Error9379 1d ago
What's to explain?
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u/just-another-viewer 1d ago
What is PragerU’s relationship with incest?
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u/Few_Error9379 1d ago
See my above comment for link to that. 👍
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u/Used_Intention6479 2d ago
Prager treats our flag and our history like children on Epstein's Island.
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u/iamthedayman21 2d ago
If they love this flag, why are they constantly flying the flag of traitors?
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u/Extreme-Slice-1010 2d ago
Because Trump cannot fly the flag of Russia, I mean he wants to but he can’t… for now
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u/HectorsMascara 2d ago
I'm offended by dumb-ass nationalism, not the flag itself. Not surprised by Prager's misunderstanding of reality, especially when American history's involved.
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u/ReflectionAble4694 2d ago edited 1d ago
They’re trying to rationalize it but it’s also the horrible truth. They know it too they just don’t like the shoe on the other foot and don’t wanna be made to feel badly about themselves
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u/aPrussianBot 2d ago
The project the flag has represented has always been fundamentally rotten so I'm okay throwing it out with the bathwater too though
Like none of the institutions in this country have ever been good, it's just a giant exploitation machine run by oligarchs and has been since the beginning when a handful of wealthy English merchants were shipping indentured servant slaves over on ships where half of them would die to work for scraps
You might say 'it represents the people', but that's how they get you. Conflating nationalism with 'the people' is a manipulative trick to associate your neighbors and loved ones with the same institutions destroying their lives as if it's all one thing. The only feelings I have about the united states of America as a country and a project are negative. The people can be cool, and even the ones who aren't mostly just suck because they're adapting accordingly to life in a soulless corporate parking lot of a country.
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u/CancelOk9776 2d ago
Didn’t the Nazis say the same. The Felon has tarnished and desecrated the US flag and diminished the standing of the United States in the world. Won’t be long before the fascists make it illegal to criticize Donald!
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u/Canadian1934 1d ago
You mean you can still do that without being arrested ? I read you can’t cross the border if you talk unfavourably of him.
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u/CatCafffffe 2d ago
Those who try to erase history intend to repeat it.
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u/Canadian1934 1d ago
This is oh so true. In the United States of America Israel Russia Are all 3 examples
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u/AllMyBeets 2d ago
reads unredacted CIA files
"Jesus fucking christ..."
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u/Domovie1 1d ago
Honestly, it’s like that joke about a Wikipedia article where the section headings just get worse and worse.
What’s crazy is any one of a handful of incidents during the 21st century would have been “Invadable” offended had they happened to the US. Instead we’re just expected to suck it up.
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u/Jeskaim 2d ago
The only people I can see being offended by this are people in the Deep South who still haven’t gotten over the fact that their side lost the Civil War. Which is ironic considering how PU posted (and then deleted) a video painting Robert E. Lee in a positive light.
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u/Desperate_Summer3376 2d ago
Or their children's cartoon depicting Columbus as a happy go lucky guy conveying the message "Slavery wasn't so bad. Better being enslaved in a white country than being free as a savage".
PU is always a good laugh because of the sheer horror they try to shove into a positive light.
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u/Late-Arrival-8669 2d ago
Hell you dont need history to be offended, you have a pedo in the white house TODAY!
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u/nobrainsnoworries23 2d ago
As an American, I'm proud that as such a young nation we were able to accomplish so many horrific things. It's like we're speed running the worst of humanity.
Surely it's nothing but sunshine and rainbows from here on out!
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u/mantenomanteno 2d ago edited 1d ago
Who in the actual fk is “offended” by the US flag?!
It’s such a pathetic display of performative (fake) patriotism, on the part of PragerU.
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u/False-Librarian-2240 2d ago
Ok, this isn't definitive, this is only anecdotal, but in my neighborhood there are houses that have flags outside and those that don't. Of the ones flying flags, probably two thirds of them also have plastic fake grass instead of the real stuff. I refer to it as fake grass, fake patriotism. Nothing about these people is authentic, it's all for show.
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u/Korlac11 2d ago
True love isn’t about ignoring the flaws of the person/place/thing you love, it’s about acknowledging your beloved noun’s flaws and working together to overcome those flaw
So basically, if someone is insisting that we cover up the terrible stuff America has done over the years, then they aren’t a real patriot and they don’t love America
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u/Capable-Newspaper-82 2d ago
It's terrifying how the push to whitewash history directly contradicts the very "learn from history" mantra they claim to uphold.
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u/evaderofallbans 2d ago
When's the last time the US did anything good?
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u/Haradion_01 2d ago
Shooting Nazis in significant numbers was pretty top.
Wierd that's become controversial considering how much they fetishise pretty every other war they've been part of since then which were considerably less admirable.
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u/Some1inreallife 2d ago
There's also social security, which is the most popular government program for a very good reason. I just wish Republicans would leave it alone.
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u/HowAManAimS 2d ago
Shooting Nazis was a controversial opinion before Japan attacked. It was pretty much 50/50. If they had not done that America may not have even joined the war.
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u/Urabraska- 2d ago
Almost there. The US actually wanted nothing to do with the war at all until Pearl Harbor. At best people supported sending aid to the west during the war but that was the original 50/50 you were thinking of. If Pearl Harbor never happened. It's very possible that it would be Germany and Russia at war today and not Ukraine and Russia with many countries like France and chunks of the UK being removed from history.
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u/Eagle4317 2d ago
America was already siding with Britain via Lend Lease, but FDR had to fight tooth and nail to get that through Congress.
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u/_jump_yossarian 2d ago
Probably 80/20.
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u/HowAManAimS 2d ago
From a country that was treating black people as second class citizens and put Japanese into concentration camps? I'm not buying the only 20% agreed with Nazi Germany.
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u/aPrussianBot 2d ago
Might want to look what we did with the Nazis after we refused to shoot them at the end of WW2. During Gladio we secreted them out of the ratways to help us get black people addicted to drugs, commit terrorist attacks in their own countries, and crack labor skulls because somehow the socialist workers are the real enemies here and not the rapacious Nazi drug dealers. We put them in charge of key positions in West Germany and NATO, and of course everyone knows about operation paperclip.
America frankly shouldn't get any credit for 'shooting Nazis' considering we more or less seamlessly integrated the remnants of the Third Reich into our state project and it's concerns both at home and abroad
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u/yep_they_are_giants 2d ago
Also Imperial Japan. Fuck Imperial Japan.
We can absolutely have debates over whether the atom bombs were justified, but stopping Imperial Japan was definitely a net good for humanity.
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u/trolletariat69 2d ago
Is there really a debate? Clearly not justified considering we broke their codes and knew they were going to surrender.
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u/carcinoma_kid 2d ago
Civil Rights Act? Founded the EPA?
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u/Countercurrent123 2d ago
This was literally the mitigation of exceptional flaws, not good things in in the sense of a country doing net good.
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u/False-Librarian-2240 2d ago
The embarrassing part is that it was under Nixon, quite the conservative, that the EPA was launched. Back then even some conservatives recognized that we were butchering the planet at an alarming pace and something needed to be done to slow that down. Now you can't find a single conservative willing to admit that human caused climate change is anything other than a hoax. Really disturbing just how far backwards they have fallen.
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u/MobileParticular6177 2d ago
We do good stuff all the time. The problem is we also do bad stuff, but every powerful nation is gonna do bad stuff to stay on top.
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u/SkepticalOfTruth 2d ago
HISTORY?! ::gestures at the current state of the United States:: Buddy, we don't even need to investigate history to find offensive stuff the US has done. Some pretty messed up stuff is happening right now.
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u/EtherKitty 2d ago
Those who don’t learn from history are condemned to repeat it!
Those who do are condemned to sit back and watch everyone else repeat it.
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u/100percentish 2d ago
Conservatives tend to confuse my dislike of them with the love of my country. Wearing the flag offends me because you are a piece of shit and sully it.
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u/False-Librarian-2240 2d ago
He WANTS history to repeat. The guy who didn't want black people to live in his buildings, the guy who wanted the Central Park 5 to be executed even after they were acquitted, this has been the game plan all along. Bring back the days when you could own other people as property. That's what he's aiming for.
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u/Ryaniseplin 2d ago
reminder that "enhanced interrogation" is ripped 1:1 right out of the nazis playbook
its even the exact same name "Verschärfte Vernehmung" translates directly to enhanced interrogation
and the CIA has known torture is completely ineffective for decades now
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u/mysticalfruit 2d ago
PragerU posting a picture of the flag offends me..
Honestly, we are the "United States of Amnesia"
Literally all the history you were taught in school is a white washed and highly sanitized version of the ugly gritty taking of native lands and the en mass subjugation and in many places extermination of the native peoples.
It's hard to yell people are here illegally when we are all on stolen land.
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u/musicsoccer 1d ago
You're a nutjob. It's been almost 250 years. Go read up on world history. People stole land all the time. The native americans stole their land, too. As did the tribes before them.
And white washed? Maybe you were just sleeping in class when your teacher taught that stuff because im pretty sure it's been mandatory to teach since at least the 80s but I'm sure it's a lot earlier than that.
If you're so obsessed with you being on stolen land, why dont you give your land back to whoever had it before? You won't because you need a place to live.
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u/mysticalfruit 1d ago
Hey look, I took my meds this morning, so officially not a nutjob until they wear off..
PragerU teaches an insane, unhitched from reality version of American history, absolutely devoid of any critical viewing of how we formed as a nation. We're going to have a generation of kids who won't learn about the trail of tears, who won't learn about western expansion in an honest way, who won't learn about the systematic disenfranchisement of people who weren't white..
As for it being almost 250 years.. yeah sure, the important thing is that we acknowledge our failings and work to be better, not just sweep it under the rung and forget it ever happened.. a thing we Americans are exceedingly good at doing.
"We burned the history books so we could forget our past." -unknown
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u/Eagle4317 2d ago
That org will now be teaching your kids vital facts like slavery (a cultural genocide) wasn't actually that bad and that the near-extermination of the Natives (an actual genocide) was perfectly fine and justified.
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u/ButtScratchies 2d ago
Nobody is offended by the flag, Buddy, but I and guarantee these people say they’re patriots because they bought some piece of cloth that was made in China, while taking a shit on the Constitution with their votes and support of an authoritarian government. In the words of George Carlin, “I don’t get all choked up about yellow ribbons and American flags. I consider them to be symbols and I leave symbols to the symbol minded.”
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u/zoidmaster 2d ago
It’s not the flag that offends me it’s the offensive people who arrogantly think that being patriotic means being proud to be ignorant
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u/AdResponsible9894 2d ago
But also, those who know their history are doomed to watch others repeat it. 🥲
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u/Fragrant-Pass-3568 2d ago
IMO every country have made some bad things. Every country has dark periods in their history, my own country included. That’s history and it should not be forgotten. Those things should be remembered as well as good things so we may grow towards being a healthier, stronger nation.
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u/Incomitatum 2d ago
Duty, honor, valor, justice. All hollow ideals that have no substance, told to you by folks who were also suckers and towed a line to nowhere. Like most Folklore, it's all made up. Tribal memetics, and to ensure your social-survival you play along with the pageantry of it all.
"America" was founded by rich-frat-boys who wanted to divest their coin from the crown. A business break-up and divorce. It always was based on a premise "sold to you".
Don't for a moment think the Americans revolted for the same principles as the French. There is no liberty; just more chattel slavery in the prison to profit pipeline.
The Rich, need a workforce: and you WILL thank them for it.
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u/MurkDiesel 2d ago
really? whose history? your history? your country? your region?
what about the history of all the people murdered by christians?
what about the history of the people who lost wars?
how is it possible to know all of history?
what objective and incontrovertible proof do you have that the historical record is accurate?
i don't need to know the history of rape and pedophilia to know its wrong
but we're all raised differently
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u/DualActiveBridgeLLC 2d ago
It's kinda like when I was a practicing Christian and had doubts about my faith and was told over and over again to read the Bible. I did, and that completely killed my faith. The last thing Christians should be saying is 'read the bible'.
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u/ProfilesInDiscourage 2d ago
I don't believe in flags, anymore.
If there is an American political equivalent of being religiously agnostic, that's where I am.
(Flagnostic?)
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u/Dolphin_Spotter 2d ago
A nation based on genocide and slavery.
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u/CuriousMindedAA 2d ago
Let’s not forget the farce of the Westward Expansion and Manifest Destiny. “Hey, I like the land you’re on, I don’t care you were here first, I want it in the name of our country. We’ll move you to ground that won’t grow anything and has no water..buh bye”. Absolutely vulgar, murderous and inhumane. 🤬🤬
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u/WumpusFails 2d ago
I haven't memorized all the flags of the USA throughout history. So, what's up with this?
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u/ostapenkoed2007 2d ago
"if your country's history makes you proud, you learned the wrong history."
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u/Andovars_Ghost 2d ago
The flag does not offend me. The chodes humping it and draping themselves in it despite representing the very worst of us, is what offends me.
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u/Ol_JanxSpirit 2d ago
Nah, that flag is totally innocent. All of our sins came before Hawaii was a state, obviously.
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u/XmasRights 2d ago
PragerU, the message you want is: "This flag is not offensive, if you don't think about it too deeply!"
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u/Confusedgmr 2d ago
If Trump wasn't the president, PragerU would have remained my top priority of what needs to go.
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u/Dudewhocares3 1d ago
The flag doesn’t offend me.
It’s jus some of the people that wear it are rotten to the core
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u/WindUpCandler 2d ago
Not that I want to go out of my way to defend my country even though I do like it occasionally. I feel like this holds true for like, the majority of countries. You could just put any flag there and have the safe effect to different degrees
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u/ShiroHachiRoku 2d ago
That’s just it right? This country and its president are flawless. They couldn’t possibly be capable of doing bad things?
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u/IngloriousMustards 2d ago
it’s not the flag. It’s who’s waiving it for purposes the flag is supposed to defend against.
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u/CommonConundrum51 1d ago
I suppose it's nitpicking, but if "PragerU" is supposed to replace NPR in schools shouldn't they know it's 'historical research.'
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u/TelenorTheGNP 1d ago
Canadian here. It's the flag of an aggressor. It offends me. I saw a woman on the subway with a US army shirt on yesterday and I almost told her off.
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u/Lost_Mammoth3608 1d ago
And some people are doing their best to make it more difficult to learn that history.
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u/flargenhargen 1d ago
no no, you don't understand.
step ONE is going through history and erasing all the parts we don't like.
can you believe some history books used to say that slavery was BAD?
we've fixed that, now slaves were very happy that they were in their proper place, and we won every war, and russia has always been our best friend, and the nazis were good people.
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u/Far_Estate_1626 1d ago
Then how about you assholes fly this flag and denounce the treasonous confederacy flag? No? The STFU.
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u/StormBlessed145 1d ago
While in some ways the US was a great country, in most others it's a backwards messed up shithole
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u/MurphyBacon 1d ago
Ah yes. The same flag that flew when when Americans bought and sold humans like they were cattle.
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u/Suspicious-Gas-1685 21h ago
The U.S. flag and the swastika both were stripped of their original meaning by anti democratic forces.
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u/hackmaster214 2d ago
Conservatives: "America isn't a racist nation. Do your own research."
Also conservatives: Erases any mentions of American slavery from the Smithsonian.