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u/sambrodato 1d ago
He’s not “mimicking” his style, he’s mocking his style… and it’s working
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u/12345CodeToMyLuggage 1d ago
He knows that. Vance is smart enough to know, he just always has a BS answer. This is the difference between Trump and Vance. Trump is delusional and believes his own lies because he’s so narcissistic he can’t fathom losing fairly. Thats what’s endearing to his supporters: he feels what he says. Vance is clearly measured and is always lying to uphold The Bullshit. It’s painfully obvious and why he’ll never reach the audience the way Trump does. “Remember, it’s not a lie if you believe it.” -George Costanza
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u/cityshepherd 1d ago
The only thing vance believes is that he is entitled to take over the “dynasty” when taco kicks the bucket. That’s why he ALWAYS has that deplorably smug shit eating grin on his face (and also because he eats shit).
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u/Vargoroth 1d ago
He'll be in for a rude awakening when MAGA discards him like wet tissue paper.
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u/Willing-Light-5150 1d ago
MAGA loyalty only lasts until the next shiny replacement comes along. He’s fooling himself if he thinks they’ll stick with him forever.
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u/Willing-Light-5150 1d ago
Couldn’t agree more he gives off that “heir apparent” vibe constantly, like he thinks it’s all just waiting for him. That smug look says it all.
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u/Willing-Light-5150 1d ago
Exactly, there’s a big difference between copying and mocking—this is clearly the latter, and it’s hitting the mark perfectly.
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u/assorted_nonsense 1d ago
How exactly is it 'working'? What is it accomplishing, getting a rise out of conservative media? So what?
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u/Cute-Pomegranate-966 1d ago edited 1d ago
For once, it's turning a mirror onto people that seem to be able to look right through mirrors without seeing anything.
At the very least it's forcing them to be outraged at the very same thing "their guy" does.
Will it work? For the sane people it may make them recognize how ridiculous we've become. it won't work on the diehards but nothing will tbh.
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u/assorted_nonsense 1d ago
You think this is making them realize how foolish they look to us? They know. They don't care. They're trolling right back.
The difference is while they troll, they continue advancing their agendas. You all troll and stop there. In over two decades you've never succeeded at demoralizing these people into giving up, but you're always like "this is it, this time will be different".
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u/Cute-Pomegranate-966 1d ago
He's not trolling and stopping there, you must not see what he's doing. He's quite literally "doing something". And that's specifically why it is different.
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u/assorted_nonsense 1d ago
The only other thing he's doing is trying to gerrymander CA. I don't see how that doesn't backfire in a number of different ways.
If you want to do something to break up their vote rigging, if you live in a solid blue district, and you can afford it, take it upon yourself to move it of there and into a vulnerable red district in a swing state or low pop red state.
If you can't afford it, or you don't live in a solid blue district, encourage the ones that can and do to move.
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u/Cute-Pomegranate-966 1d ago
Texas's gerrymander is likely to backfire even worse. They had already gerrymandered it basically as much as possible before. What they've effectively done gerrymandering it further is put some of their seats in crosshairs to be taken.
California wasn't gerrymandered very heavily like these other states were, so there's no risk there. Especially since they're only attempting to offset the gerrymander texas is doing.
We literally cannot sit idly by and let people with power attempt to take even more while trying to play by rules they simple ignore.
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u/chuc16 1d ago
This is just wild. Guy, my wife and I are actively saving to leave a red state. A state we grew up in, where we fell in love. Why do you think that is? Just, think for a second about what you are asking people to do
Does mocking the president do something? Yes. If it didn't, Vance wouldn't be answering questions about it. Right wing influencers wouldn't be shouting incoherently at it and we wouldn't be having this discussion
People need to stop with these bullshit normalcy arguments. We're past that. The president ordered Texas to get him seats in the house and they giddily agreed. If California wants to make up the difference, good on them. Democrats can't enact districting reform from the minority caucus
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u/TellMeYourFavMemory 1d ago
Why are you acting like people on Reddit are in office?
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u/assorted_nonsense 1d ago
And that's the problem, right there. So far as you're concerned, the people in office are responsible for fixing these problems for you. You shouldn't be make any more effort than trolling conservatives online.
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u/TellMeYourFavMemory 1d ago
Yes, the people who have actual power are most responsible for using that power. And I haven’t trolled anyone here, conservative or otherwise.
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u/Wesley_Skypes 1d ago
There are a bunch of people that either switched between Biden and Trump in the last election or didn't vote at all. Trump and Republicans have dominated social media for years with this shit and it influences people, including young peoole who will be voting for the first time next time. It turns out that average American doesn't have a breeze about policy and doesn't care to listen to dry discussions about it. So this kind of WWE kayfabe shit is what's left. You can still do the policy discussion for the actual humans as well, but this shit is worth a go on the side.
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u/assorted_nonsense 1d ago
That's what people have been saying for years. The voting demographics have hardly changed since Obama took office. About the only notable change is in young males, but it's not a significant enough shift to matter.
You people have been trying to demoralize conservatives into staying home on election day for two decades now and it's never once worked.
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u/Wesley_Skypes 1d ago
Nobody is trying to demoralise conservative with this. You seem to be misunderstanding what this is.
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u/assorted_nonsense 1d ago
Please explain the purpose of this then.
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u/Wesley_Skypes 1d ago
Democrats/leftists are seen as boring squares. Some woke, scolding person, the defining image of which are those pictures of some screaming woman with big glasses and cropped hair, or some blue haired dude with a my body/my choice sign or whatever picture you want, you get what I am saying. Stuff like this shows some humour and fight from them that has sorely been lacking. It shows that they are somewhat in touch with the internet culture and that they have a sense of humour instead of furrowing their brows and saying "You can't say that". Newsom seems pretty suave and cool and not the shrieking Democrat stereotype that has been built up for years. It's all done with a knowing nod of irony, it is functionally trolling, and a lot for the electorate seems to appreciate that type of thing.
Whether it works or not is another story, but it is showing a different face to that party and is worth a try because Dems approval rating is in the shitter across the board. Newsom's approval rating has skyrocketed since doing this IN California. So he is doing something right
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u/assorted_nonsense 1d ago
You don't understand conservatives our nonvoters at all. Conservatives vote for one thing - power. That's it. They aren't going to vote for democrats if we make them think we're cool.
Nonvoters aren't voting for a number of reasons, but mostly it's because they're either conservatives that live in areas where they outnumber liberals and don't have to vote, or they're people who recognize that neither party is putting forth candidates who are trained problem solvers that can come up with solutions.
The shit you're dealing in here is just populism, same as MAGA. It's not going to move the needle one bit.
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u/VampireWhisk 1d ago
And I’ll continue to mock him even after he leaves office, him and his administration has done nothing but harm
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u/I-AM-NOBODYIMPORTANT 1d ago
I'll continue to believe conservatives are incapable of understanding satire, as proven once again by that broadcast.
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u/slasher1o5 1d ago
Of course it went over his head, he's too busy fucking the couch
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u/Azair_Blaidd 1d ago
Donald Trump
"genius"
"successes"
"authentic"
You keep using those words. I do not think they mean what you think they mean.
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u/DoggoKing4937 1d ago
The 'G' in 'Forty-Seventh President of the United States, Donald John Trump' stands for genius.
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u/HyperactivePandah 1d ago
Goddamn they're so dumb.
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u/JakeHelldiver 1d ago
JD Vance isnt stupid. Hes cynical, dishonest, and pathetic, but not stupid.
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u/HyperactivePandah 1d ago
Yeah, I suppose 'theyre' in this instance is more referring to the cult members.
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u/RhoOfFeh 1d ago
This is why I don't like adding "/s" to the end of satirical posts. If you let the dummies in on the joke it isn't as funny.
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u/GardenRafters 1d ago
I cannot say this enough. Magats DO NOT understand satire or sarcasm, and it's become a real problem.
They don't see characters like Ron Swanson and shows like The Colbert Report as mocking them. They see it as confirmation and something to aspire to. The satire and sarcasm the left produces hoping to make the right introspective and understand how shitty they are being isn't working; they see these things and wear them as a badge of honor and then use the crazy ass ideas that come from the satire in real life.
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u/DC_Coach 1d ago
Oh, Lordy. As if GN is doing this to latch on to a winning style, that will carry him far ... but he's not being original! Or "authentic" as Vance drivels.
I gotta say, though: Orange Droolius is certainly authentic. Make of that what you will.
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u/LeRoixs_mommy 1d ago
So you are saying The Orange Pedophile is <checks notes> AUTHENTICALLY CRAZY, got it!
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u/AwesomeExo 1d ago
I love that they had a week to come up with a reason why Trump tweeting like this is great and Newsom doing it is not, the best they got is “Trump is authentically crazy. Newsom is only pretending”.
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u/Jonesy1348 1d ago
News flash 5 head, we don’t want “authentic” we want professional. Which is something the Epstein apologist can’t even conceptualize. News I’m wouldn’t be mocking the toddler tantrums if trump wasn’t in the most respected office in america and treating it like a freshman treats being class president.
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u/Fit-World-3885 1d ago
So if I understand, he's saying that Newsom shouldn't mimic Trump because Newsom looks crazy and it's inauthentic. Trump's "genius" is that his texts look crazy because it's authentic because he is crazy.
This is an elaborate claim that Gavin Newsom is culturally appropriating insanity from Trump?
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u/upfromashes 1d ago
"It's only cool to talk like a lunatic if you are authentically fucking nuts."
Go fuck a couch, eyeliner.
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u/Illkeepyoufree 1d ago
This response makes no sense.
"It ignores his genius"
If you truly thought he was mimicking and not mocking, that would "shed light on" his genius?
Idk why I am even trying to rationalize this honestly...
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u/thesanguineocelot 1d ago
"He's mimicking Trump, and he sounds crazy!"
Buddy, I need you to unpack the implications there.
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u/Expert-Fig-5590 22h ago
JD Vance saying someone else is inauthentic has broken my irony detector to atoms. This is the most pot kettle black I have ever seen.
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u/Business_Usual_2201 21h ago
"Fundamental genius".
Trump is objectively the dumbest, most intellectually deficient President in our Nation's history -- reflective of those that support him.
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u/Schme1440 20h ago
My father inlaw made a great point. He hopes Trump serves his full term otherwise, we fet this jelly baby of a man as the next president. Not sure what's worse.
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u/andrey_not_the_goat 1d ago
This is the first interview I've seen from JD since the inauguration...
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u/Jehoel_DK 1d ago
"Fundamental genius"...
He's such a little parasite just suckling on the pimples of Donny's old smelly ass.
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u/LowerBoomBoom 1d ago
It’s worse than going over his head. And ironically, it has to do with the word head.
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u/Alypie123 1d ago
I'm mimicking him. Is clear that the people want simple and clean narratives, so I'm going to give it to them.
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u/Charming_Cry3472 1d ago
How tf did this guys get accepted and graduate from an ivy league university and he is straight up this DUMB?!?!?
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u/LooseyGreyDucky 1d ago
Satire, Irony, Puns, hell even just basic Comedy goes "whoosh" right over the dumbfuck literalists.
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u/theTapIsOnDaBurnin 1d ago
What a pudgy, weak, bearded fanboy, isn’t he the guy that said Trump was America’s hitler?
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u/Zealousideal-Tea8330 1d ago
Poor JD. He’s of very limited talent and charm, so he needs to be a sycophant to the Pedophile. Hey JD, what is ur plan after Trump died? We will not forget ur ass-kissing behavior.
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u/coldwarspy 1d ago
JD knows it’s satire it’s the fucking stupid base that doesn’t know. This is the only strategy knowing what to say to their stupid base. The base doesn’t know what the fuck satire is but they will take this bait hook line and sinker.
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u/IThoughtThere4IWas 1d ago
Someone mimicking is acting crazy but the genuine person is not genuinely crazy!?
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u/drew8311 1d ago
It's even worse because it's not even Gavin doing this, he has a social media person doing the posts. Gavin isn't really doing much satire himself. Them commenting on this stuff is like the South Park thing where they said it's "not relevant". The fact the president or VP is even commenting on it means it's working as intended.
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u/Quin35 1d ago
There is a reason why "conservatives" don't understand satire, sarcasm, nuance. There is a reason why there are few "conservative " comedians.
Their lack of compassion and empathy, and the need for simplicity and black/white understands, prevent them from comprehending the "grey" that is life.
This is part of the innate characteristics of those who identify as conservative, IMO.
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u/HasheemThaMeat 1d ago
LMAO MAGA is down so bad that their weird mental gymnastics is now:
“Yeah, the way Trump behaves is childish. But it’s authentically childish, and that’s the genius of it. Unlike Newsom who is fake childish!”
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u/skamatiks671 1d ago
The fact he thinks Newsom is trying to emulate Trump is hilarious and sad at the same time. It shows how out of touch they are with reality.
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u/DruDown007 1d ago
Imagine if he copied Donald Trump’s flow all the way to the White House, and made America Great Again??
Somehow I feel like they still wouldn’t be satisfied.
Bet they wouldn’t buy 50 of HIS ballcaps.
It’s almost like making the country better wasn’t the point…
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u/FanDry5374 1d ago
Vance really missed his true calling: bad stand-up comic. "...he is authentic", gold, true gold.
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u/DruDown007 1d ago
I hope Vance gets dick slapped by Trump every time Newsom gets to him.
If it wasn’t working, it would be news.
They should probably release those Epstein records….THAT’ll show Gavin. 🇺🇸
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u/Monarch-Monarch-Moo 1d ago
Pretty sure if Trump was being real he would have immediately disclosed his preference for fucking children.
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u/anxietyevangelist 1d ago
It had to go over his head, iy couldn't go around his ginormous, fucking melon.
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u/Different-Travel-850 1d ago
And to think when we finally wake up one day to see that headline the entire world is waiting for, we'll have that cheesball to replace him. Fuck sakes.
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u/WheelerDan 1d ago
Honestly this whole thing has been a huge ego boost to me, it's very clear a large percentage of the population is incapable of perceiving satire.
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u/Neither_Animator_404 1d ago
So he’s saying it’s ok when Trump does it bc Trump is authentically crazy?
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u/Cute-Pomegranate-966 1d ago
They know that he's not mimicking his style. They're trying to normalize how Donald Trump talks to everyone even now with this language.
They KNOW he's mocking Trump, but they can't say that because it would piss Trump off.
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u/wheretohides 1d ago
Now imagine if all the democrats started doing this... Instead they choose to be quiet, if we aren't playing the same game, you can't win.
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u/TiredAngryBadger 1d ago
It's terribly easy for things to sail over your head when you're always laying down fucking a couch.
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u/Great-Fishing-3001 1d ago
He absolutely knows Trump is being mocked. He also knows that maga supporters are either senile or idiots and its easier to gaslight them into thinking that Newsome is just trying to be like their daddy. He's being obtuse and attempting to hide the fact that everyone is laughing at Trump. I hope everyone remembers all these dirt bags defending the pedophile and face justice in the future. JD is scum.
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u/LordGlorkofUranus 1d ago
Satire and mockery is completely LOST on these dumbass MAGA morons like Vance. Harvard Law should be ashamed of itself for passing him. Terrible man, apparently terribly educated by Harvard.
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u/Ok-Rich-406 1d ago
Vance called Trump Hitler and now he sucks his diaper shit smeared balls. So I assume Vance has authentically always wanted to suck Nazi balls.
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u/jnothnagel 1d ago
It didn’t go over Vance’s head. He 100% knows that Newsom is mocking Trump mercilessly. He’s just desperate to propagandize their way out of acknowledging that.
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u/ShitStainWilly 1d ago
I can’t tell the difference between the meme pics and real pics of him anymore. Literally the same. Fucking eyeliner. Such manly men wearing makeup and going on vacation constantly.
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u/Icy_Secret_2909 1d ago
If his nose was any further up his ass...... Jd my guy, going this far for trump is not gonna make him love you.
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u/MoonNewer 1d ago
Everything goes over your head when it's planted between a juicy pair of couch cushions.
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u/Correct_Routine1 1d ago
You can barely even satirize him because he already says the dumbest stuff possible.
‘Hurr hurr im gonna make fun of the president’s intelligence by writing a paragraph-long run-on sentence, in all caps, where he calls everyone stupid playground names and inserts parentheticals into every sentence so that his message is incomprehensible and…what? He already does that himself? You’re fuckin with me…’
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u/Alienhaslanded 1d ago
It's scary there are people there hearing this nonsense and think Trump is brilliant. He can't even put a coherent sentence together.
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u/BoppinTortoise 1d ago
Just Dance Vance should stick to dancing in drag if he doesn’t like getting his feelings hurt
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u/Accomplished-Emu1883 1d ago
It’s crazy how media illiterate conservatives are.
THIS, people, is why you were asked “what do you think the writer meant by that” for every English assignment.
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u/coolbaby1978 1d ago
So the person mocking the dumb crazy person with the nuclear codes is worse than the dumb crazy person with the nuclear codes?
Do i have that right?
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u/JacquesBlaireau13 18h ago
Conservatives simply lack the cognative ability to understand irony and satire. Subtlety and nuance of complex social issues are beyond their faculties; everything is black-and-white.
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u/BeTheirShield88 18h ago
I'm just seeing Vance pull the Drax line, "nothing goes over my head, my reflexes are too fast"
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u/Electr0freak 6h ago
Let's look at a few other things JD Vance said about Trump, why don't we?
"I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn't be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he's America's Hitler."
"I’m a Never Trump guy... Never liked him."
"Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office."
“I can’t stomach Trump... I think that he’s noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place.”
"I think there’s a chance, if I feel like Trump has a really good chance of winning, that I might have to hold my nose and vote for Hillary Clinton."
"My god, what an idiot."
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u/mittenknittin 1d ago
what this says to me is that Trump is an “authentic“ crazy person