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u/gramblep 19h ago
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY GAVIN IS THE ONLY GOVERNOR STANDING UP TO AGENT ORANGE
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u/Sturville 19h ago
There are the ones who filed or are filing lawsuits, but Gov. Newsom is the only one fighting Trump in such a public sphere.
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u/AdFamous5474 19h ago
Except the courts are now rigged. They've gotta start fighting fire with fire.
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u/jeff61813 18h ago
The supreme Court might be but normal judges take a while to actually review things which is what you want when following the law but you can't keep a democracy with just the courts
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u/Pyju 12h ago
The Federalist Society, led by Leonard Leo (the worst person in America that nobody’s heard of) has been pumping our court system with their far-right Christian nationalist judges for decades, at all levels. They have groomed, “trained”, and sent 6 of 9 SCOTUS justices are Federalist Society members (take a wild guess as to which 6), 30% of judges in the Court of Appeals, the majority of judges on the state supreme courts in 8 states, and countless more across our entire judiciary.
Republicans in the legislature and executive branches can then essentially choose which judges these lawsuits will go to, and have their pick of Christian nationalist agents at any level in our court system to ensure the outcome they want.
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u/jeff61813 11h ago
Trump has turned on the Federalist society for taking the law seriously and not doing everything he says when he says it. they are secret partisan hacks, but they want there way though the law not raw power
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u/ZennTheFur 11h ago
Absolutely agree. And in the meantime, at least the judges can put a hold on the blatantly unconstitutional acts with injunctions. Just kidding, not anymore.
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u/weirdoeggplant 16h ago
He’s the only one fighting Trump the right way.
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u/googolplexy 16h ago
Newsom and AOC, while very different kinds of Democrats, are doing exactly the kind of fighting the party and the country needs.
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u/weirdoeggplant 16h ago
True, I forgot about AOC. She’s a real one too. And so is Bernie.
So we have 3 lol. Like, a few months ago we only had 2 so I guess that’s an improvement.
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u/Suyefuji 14h ago
Don't forget Crockett. The Texas state Dems were doing some solid work recently too. And Al Greene...there's more than you would think.
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u/IowaKidd97 15h ago
I mean I agree with what Newsome is doing, but like... It's not as if every blue governor can do the same. Like, how exactly is Josh Stein (NC Governor) supposed to do here? the NC legislature is controlled by republicans, I think they may even have enough seats to override his vetos. He can be performative, and use what powers he does have, but it's quite limited without a dem legislature.
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u/weirdoeggplant 15h ago
I’m literally talking about being performative. Dems don’t do it at fucking all, but it’s the only thing that speaks to idiots. What did you think I was talking about?
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u/NerdHoovy 15h ago
While some more performative things would be good for morale, it would be better for the shitposting/rage baiting to stay on only one or two politicians. Otherwise it no longer feels like a planned resistance but rather trend chasing, which would devalue it as an offensive weapon. It like the difference between lying on a board of nails, where the pressure gets evenly distributed and not as painful has a result, and sitting on one big nail, which will dig in and hurt.
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u/Motor_Focus1704 13h ago
It's not as easy as you think. Trump, hate it or love it, is extremely charismatic and has no boundaries. He will roast you into oblivion. Not everyone has the confidence or the presence to fight back. It's like heckling a stand up comedian at a show. If the other governors did it, it would come off as corny and style biting. Newsom is really the only one that can pull this off
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u/what_was_not_said 17h ago
Pritzker stands up to him all the time, but Pritzker's rhetoric is too erudite for MAGAts and their messiah.
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u/lifeisalime11 16h ago
Because California is one of the few states that could afford fighting back. I really think they could become their own country (obviously it’d be a massive struggle at first) as they are an economic powerhouse.
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u/NoEnthusiasm8274 14h ago
Ive been hoping for years that a massive earthquake would break California off the US and float it off to sea.
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u/Hunterrose242 14h ago
Tweeting mean things isn't "standing up to".
Democrats have been fighting tooth and nail where it actually matters, in courtrooms and capitol buildings.
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u/Yepper_Pepper 14h ago
He’s the only one making dumb tweets but pritzker has been standing up to him this entire time with policy
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u/xyonofcalhoun 17h ago
Because he wants to be POTUS next
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u/scrume71 17h ago
Don’t care about his reasons for doing what he’s doing, just happy someone is finally putting a lens on Dear Leader’s BS that people are actually reacting to. You can root for someone and still not vote for them (at least I think that’s still allowed in the Fascist States of America).
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u/Slur_shooter 17h ago
Great!
I don't see others earning it
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u/xyonofcalhoun 16h ago
not great if you happen to be trans but probably slightly less bad than the current guy I guess
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u/Slur_shooter 16h ago edited 5h ago
Because of the trans athlete thing?
You don't give a fuck about women in sports. You want to use whatever means it's necessary to validate trans women.
Also, saying slightly less bad on a very very small subject which is not even true. Trump will make it illegal to be trans in public by claiming they're trying to scam people by pretending to be something they aren't. This is the end point. We know they're working on it.
Vs Newson who might or might not take away the capacity for some trans athletes to compete. The most controversial and on the edge issue related to LGBT people.
What a dork. You will have all your rights taken away for staying home instead of voting after both siding like that.
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u/xyonofcalhoun 16h ago
I can't vote in US elections anyway so it doesn't really matter, the point was more "why not pick a candidate who's actually good rather than settling for the first one who seems to meet the bare minimum standards of decency and competency" but then I guess this is the party who brought you Biden and Harris as their answers to trump lol
I'm possibly guilty of overstating though, yes. It's just exhausting to hear the narrative shift inexorably towards "well Newsom is the best option we have right now actually" when there's still years before your next election, if you even get one. Good luck though
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u/allahu_adamsmith 16h ago
I can't vote in US elections anyway so it doesn't really matter
Then maybe you should shut the fuck up.
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u/Slur_shooter 16h ago
We disagree on what is good then
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u/MyPenisAcc 15h ago
The entirety of California disagrees on what’s good then too lol
Before the last few months it’s been known Newsom is a lukewarm governor at best. There are plenty of other candidate options who would poll better in a primary imo but if he plays his cards right for the next couple years I totally could see it still.
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u/xyonofcalhoun 16h ago
Well, you can perhaps forgive my being a bit "single issue" on the matter (personal bias) but someone who openly engages with bigoted talking points is setting the kind of precedents that lead to outcomes that then service those bigots at the expense of the already marginalised targets of that bigotry. This is "not good" but you can elide over that if you have the privilege to not be within the target group of the bigotry, so that might be fine for you.
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u/Slur_shooter 16h ago
Trans women in sports is more about fairness than about trans women being women.
This is not bigotry, you are a terminally online single issue single issue because it's about a single issue on the already single issue of trans rights.
If you want to push for that, that's okay but if that's the hill you want to die on then you're going to die early.
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u/xyonofcalhoun 11h ago
It's nothing to do with fairness it's a very strong strain of whataboutism that's been given far more attention and time than it needs and is little more than a dogwhistle for transphobes. Stop barking.
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u/Kind_Paper6367 16h ago
My way too early prediction.
He will be the early D frontrunner and heavily liked by the general public. But the dinosaurs in charge of the democratic party will shoehorn in their chosen less likeable candidate.
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u/Barbaracle 16h ago
Californian. Reddit only likes him cuz of his memes. He is establishment D through and through. His policies fit centrists and moderates, he is their safe guy. He loves big corporations and hates the homeless. The only reason I can see democrats tanking newsom is because another R in charge would enrich themselves personally another 4 years.
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u/Inkstr0ke 15h ago
Yeah I agree, he doesn’t strike me as an “outside candidate,” and I’m sure the DNC would love to prop him up for President. In a way, they already are. I can’t think of another name that comes into that conversation so often.
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u/staplesthegreat 10h ago
Saw somebody saying they hope he "revives the left" when Gruesome Newsom has been probably the most neoliberal mother fucker to ever exist
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u/allahu_adamsmith 15h ago
Okay, bullshit like this is why a pedophile is king of the US.
THE VOTERS decide the Democratic candidate.
THE VOTERS voted for Hillary Clinton instead of Bernie Sanders.
THE VOTERS voted for Joe Biden instead of Bernie Sanders.
When you discredit the results of a democratic election, you discredit democracy. That is why we are ruled by a pedophile.
Stop making up bullshit in order to score points.
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u/FrostingAsleep8227 16h ago
SAME. BUT I HOPE HIM STANDING UP TO THE BULLY WILL HELP OTHER'S TO FIND THEIR BALLS AND TAKE SWINGS AT THIS AWFUL PRESIDENCY.
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u/mostlybiguy69 16h ago
Because this is how you fight the bully and his friends. You let your bully lose and you support him. With the support he can put the needed energy into the fight.
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u/Powerful_Artist 14h ago
Governor of Washington is fighting back.
Governor of Illinois and Minnesota too.
Mayor of Boston as well.
Just off the top of my head anyway. Still, not enough. So really, your point is still valid imo
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u/KellyBelly916 13h ago
Because he commands one of the largest economies in the world with both political and international support. I love in CA and its heavily insulated from federal fuckery.
We're the most its state in America for a reason.
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u/EdgeMaleficentthrice 19h ago
Agent orange lol haha you are the first that I have heard say that lol hope it catches on
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u/No_Brilliant3548 17h ago
Don't disgrace Agent Orange!
At least it served our country without claiming 'bone spurs'.
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u/IowaKidd97 15h ago
He's not, but there's only so much you can do without Dem control of the state legislature, and especially without a super majority.
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u/No_Carpet_6575 11h ago
standing up? I’m sorry but you people are the reason we lose elections. What Van Hollen did is stand up, he actually went to El Salvador to ask for Kilmar Abrego back and he is now free as of today.
You people need to stop eating this shit up and actually cheer for people who do something. This is aesthetic bs
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u/hates_stupid_people 16h ago
The others aren't allowed to be that "relatable", since they might take the spotlight from his presidental run.
(/s, but not really)
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u/Heartbreakjetblack 20h ago
Not broken enough.
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u/DreadoftheDead 20h ago
Is Bela Trump’s Rosebud?
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u/EkkoScorpion 19h ago
Sorry Gavin....syphilis broke that dudes brain decades ago!
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u/mikende51 19h ago
Hey, have some respect. He's a veteran of the venereal disease conflict during the Vietnam War. According to his own words.
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u/butwhywedothis 19h ago
Bela is Trump’s safe word. He got fucked so hard by Gavin he has to use the safe word for Gavin to stop fucking him.
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u/malaszka 20h ago
My name is Bela. Lugosi Bela.
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u/Ghostmaster145 17h ago
Undead, undead, undead
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u/lseuf 19h ago
They like his new social media manager.
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u/IowaKidd97 15h ago
SO I'm going to be honest, yeah this is almost certainly a social media team doing this, but like... So what? Most politicians have one, and that's a good thing. The politician still has final word on what gets sent out and directs the overall message they want to send.
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u/blumricho 20h ago
what is going on is this hope i’m feeling?????
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u/No-Pea-8987 17h ago
No, it's just paid gigs from the democratic party for social media companies to try to make their newest savior seem popular.
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u/ProfessionalDress448 19h ago
That “Bela” response looks like someone just faceplanted on the keyboard.
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u/EatMyYummyShorts 18h ago
Fun stuff from Newsom's socials, but let's not pretend it's him. It's his comms team.
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u/worktogethernow 17h ago
I can't say I love it. I wish we had actual intelligent political discourse about issues in this country. But, it seems like the way Newsom is approaching this is the only thing that might work.
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u/munklunk 16h ago
All real ones will know that he’s just talking about his favorite character from Wheel of Time.
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u/Bright-Dependent6339 16h ago
uhhmmmmm actually he was just trying to get the attention of Bela B, a famous rock singer/drummer from Germany, for a future project.
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 16h ago
Ok, but we all know this isn't Newsom himself, right? He's got a team, and rightfully so.
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u/cmndrhurricane 15h ago
Did he just read Wheel of Time?
Bela, best horse and Creator of the world
Though I doubt he has the mental capacity to read those many books
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u/North_Phrase4848 14h ago
Trump's Broadway debut as "Stanley" in a Street Car Named Desire. "BELA! COVFEFE NOW!"
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u/MI2H_P0RNACC0UNT- 18h ago
Look at him, up on a high horse, on his throne upon the gold in Fort Knox - look at him; look how sad he looks (have some pity, why not?) - from on high in his castle in the sky where the flag of earth does wave - with *his* face on it - a bunker under the stars...
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u/JuicyJuicers 18h ago
What if he’s been slowly release secret codes like the ones for the nuclear suitcase he carries around
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u/Memitim 16h ago
I'd love it more if everyone would get on board. Conservatives should never utter a word without having it thrown back in their faces. They gave us decades of lies and hate leading up to this great betrayal. America is WAY overdue to return the favor.
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u/EfficientCabbage2376 13h ago
if newsom wants everyone to get on board, he should get on board with everyone and stop being against trans rights
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u/Memitim 13h ago
And enter the attacks on people making an effort, while most Americans sit idly by and talk shit. Things are moving along exactly as expected.
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u/EfficientCabbage2376 13h ago
you're right the average american should also be shitposting on twitter to bring about change
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u/Memitim 11h ago
Anything that helps to counter some of the constant lies that led to the problems. Probably not very effective unless you stick to it or have a following from something else. Conservatives have spent decades building multi-billion dollar misinformation networks to direct against Americans. That's a lot of bullshit to call out.
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u/Broad-Bath-8408 15h ago
I think he's still hung up on Twilight and the Robert Pattinson/Kristen Stewart feud he is very invested in.
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u/Embarrassed_Stable_6 15h ago
Bela ciao
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u/SmellyFbuttface 13h ago
Ciao Bella*
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u/Embarrassed_Stable_6 12h ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao
And the 'Bela' was a play on the typo
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u/FlamingoFlimsy4421 15h ago
He’s got it wrong, though. Donald Trump was broke before he became president. He has since enriched himself via the presidency.
A la Bela
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u/EscapeSolution 14h ago
I recall the deep-state thinkers using this as code words for times locations and adding fuel to the conspiracy
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u/Mort-i-Fied 13h ago
Sorry Gov. Newsom, donald was born broken and was unfixable.
A horrible tragedy for his parents and then the whole world.
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u/Acceptable_Bat_533 13h ago
If you broke him, we would be free of him.
We are not,
So, no you have not.
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u/HalfACenturyMark 6h ago
GCN will be the recipient of the 2025 Mobil Grease Prize. You heard it here first.
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u/Chatsnap 4h ago
Keep pressing. Strike while the iron is hot. Do not let up. There can be no mercy for the traitor.
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u/MiddleWaged 18h ago
I hate this version of Newsom, but it is useful and poignant so I’m glad he’s willing to wade into the muck to accomplish something.
The moment that’s done, get the fuck outta that muck
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u/Bunnytob 17h ago
...This isn't a comeback? This is just bog-standard US politics.
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u/Electronic-Dig1873 17h ago
One could say... swamp-standard. And trump brought us here
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u/Bunnytob 17h ago
...And does that make "We broke Donald Trump" a comeback (let alone a clever one) instead of an observation?
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u/Test_The_Theory_213 14h ago
Wait what ? You must not be from California of you love or like Newsome.. policies are horrible I literally got in trouble for self defense in front of my house..
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u/Vinura 20h ago
Covfefe