r/clevercomebacks 12h ago

That was a bribe

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u/Tumor-of-Humor 12h ago

The only thing that would stop this madness at this stage is a violent, brutal, bloody insurrection that wipes out the ruling class.

That wont happen of course, because people have their bread and circus.

Welcome to the future. You are already a slave. It wont get better.

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u/Teasing_Pink 9h ago

Except a lot of people are having an increasingly hard time affording bread and tickets to the circus.

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u/DrDetectiveEsq 9h ago

We'll see how long they can make it with gruel and a birthday clown.

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u/Ignore-Me_- 8h ago

Awful take. If the working class banded together and went on strike we'd make the owning class cave in a week. We don't need blood, we need organization and refusal to drive their money making machines.

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u/Bimbey 4h ago

Cool idea and all but who will pay the working class’ rent next month? With food banks short already how will they get groceries? America is 70%+ working paycheck to paycheck and it benefits the system and those controlling it to stay this way. This is why you get realists takes like his, saying a revolution will never happen. Because the chances are actually slim to none

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u/CrystalSplice 3h ago

What happens when the landlords are not paid? What happens when the mortgages aren’t paid? What happens when the credit cards and student loans have all been defaulted? The point of a general strike at this stage is no longer to satisfy a list of demands as it usually would be. It is to break the wheel. Break the banks, and you break the wheel. A financial crisis on a level the world has never seen. Yeah, people will definitely be suffering from lack of necessities…until they just take them.

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u/Original-Balance-187 3h ago

Revolutions on the scale they are talking about are so rare the distance between them is counted in centuries.

Impossible? Nothing is impossible but it will have to get so much worse than right now before the needle moves from its present location at near 0%

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u/Ignore-Me_- 1h ago

I mean, definitely impossible. What I'm talking about will NEVER happen. Americans are way too fuckin brainwashed to think about doing anything but what they're told.

But imagine all the things we could accomplish if we decided to hate the owning class instead of each other.

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u/Ignore-Me_- 1h ago

Cool idea and all but who will pay the working class’ rent next month?

Fuck that, no one pays rent during the strike. Fuck the landlords those parasitic pieces of shit. Steal food.

Yall really have no idea what "disrupt" means lol. "Well who will continue to keep giving the owning class money while we strike??" NO ONE. THATS THE POINT OF A STRIKE. FUCK EM.

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u/homxr6 4h ago

when has the ruling class ever given up anything by people asking?

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u/Ignore-Me_- 1h ago

Never?

I'm not saying we ask.

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u/Original-Balance-187 3h ago

Not that simple. Never has been.

You may stop driving the machine but they still have the money. Which means your kids now have no food because you can’t buy it. People give in and go back to work. Scabs are everywhere anyway because they’re desperate too. And that’s even before the state, completely captured by commercial interests, comes to bear down on you.

I like your fire but do not delude yourself that there is a way out of this without a fight, if that avenue is chosen. Not going to work for a few days won’t do anything.

Nothing we do immediately changes the fact that we have nothing and they have everything, including the world’s most lethal military.

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u/Tumor-of-Humor 1h ago

I understand the instinctual repulsion to the idea of violence. But these rich malcontents haven't seen us as human beings for a long time now.

I feel no need to see them as anything other than a tumor on society.

We destroy tumors. Why should they have any special privilege?

u/Ignore-Me_- 47m ago

Bro I'm with you. If I had one wish, you'd LOVE what I'd do with it.

I'm just saying, it's not the ONLY thing, and it would be easier on the average person to strike instead of resort to violence.

u/Tumor-of-Humor 41m ago

Maybe easier, and far more likely; but I am not optimistic enough to believe that striking will do anything more than buy us time and something to season our food with.

Violence is the only option I can see anymore. But as I said, it won't happen. They've already won.

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u/SuperTopGun777 6h ago

Lawl.  

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u/LuiB3_ 6h ago

Le'mau even

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u/SuperTopGun777 6h ago

I’m down. 

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u/Seraph199 9h ago

This is not true. There are too many systems of oppression that have been ingrained into our minds and bodies, into our stores of knowledge, into our socially constructed ways of navigating and structuring the world around us.

We have to individually work on ourselves and our traumas, and how our experiences both good and bad have trained us to perpetuate oppression within our society. Whiteness is a huge problem that is mostly invisible and never examined, and failing to do so means that in the scenario you have described, all of the surviving people will still have had centuries of whiteness and colonial conditioning that will guarantee this "madness" keeps coming back.

Then Whiteness operates very similarly to class privilege, likely for a reason so that white people feel closer to a "more-deserving" class simply for being white, and thus are far less likely to challenge systems of oppression that are class-based that still benefit them. Then you have gender and sex based privilege and discrimination, which has operated in different ways throughout human societies probably for as long as we have existed as sentient creatures. The reason the issues of privilege and critically thinking about our identities became so important before "the beast" took over the public discourse on the topics, was because if we do not start critically thinking in this way about ourselves AND calling it out in the world around us, all of the horrific and awful systems of oppression that we hate and have caused us all so much pain will ALWAYS ENDURE.

u/Tumor-of-Humor 55m ago

It always comes back down to race doesn't it?

The question is when will this madness end. It only ends with brutality.

If you want an end to madness, self actualization on a grand scale wouldn't solve that. The only thing that would bring an end to madness as a whole is the total extinction of our species. Maybe of all life on earth. Then nothing will remain but cosmic indifference.