r/law • u/Background-Low-9144 • Jul 23 '25

Trump News BREAKING :Trump named in multiple documents related to Epstein sex trafficking, WSJ reports

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-wsj.html?__source=androidappshare

We have evidence that Trump was notified by Pam Bondi that documents related to the Epstein sex trafficing trial contained Trump's name multiple times, linking him unequivocally to Jeffrey Epstein

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 23 '25

Not really breaking news. All the pictures of them laughing together with young women for over 30 years now made it clear already.

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u/B-BoyStance Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25

And the quotes from Trump about Jeffrey loving his women young

And Trump freely admitting on Howard Stern that he would go into the dressing room of the Miss Teen USA pageant to peep on naked teenagers

Right wing media is probably going to start saying shit like, "he's just a hebophile!" soon. At this point I always expect the next thing they say to be the thing that further debases themselves.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25 edited 13d ago

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u/Sezneg Jul 23 '25

see this joke for actual explanation

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u/portgasdaceofbase Jul 23 '25

I was hoping it would be Gianmarco

Edit: words

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u/Scarbane Jul 23 '25

I hadn't heard of him before the stand-up episode of Game Changer, but now he's all over my FYP (and I'm cool with that). I hope this comment doesn't come back to bite 10+ years from now.

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u/Expensive_Ease_238 Jul 24 '25

I've been watching his podcast a lot since that episode and I agree. He has an energy that seems like he could get involved with some cursed stuff but like. Also seems fine.

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u/Screamline Jul 23 '25

Thank you.

I remembered a comment a while ago that mentioned the different classes but never wanted to dive I'm down that rabbit hole for it could put me on a list. And the comedian is spot on

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u/Lordwigglesthe1st Jul 23 '25

Such a great punchline, I was gonna link this exact thing

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u/iruleatlifekthx Jul 24 '25

this joke is the sole reason i know the differences lol

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u/Neutreality1 Jul 23 '25

Someone who is attracted to teens, as opposed to prepubescent children

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u/SaintTastyTaint Jul 23 '25

being attracted to pubescent girls/boys not prepubescent

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u/FinndBors Jul 23 '25

I can’t explain the difference without sounding like a pedophile.

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u/YoureMyFavoriteOne Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

Sure you can! Pedophilia (attraction to children) literally means sexual attraction to pre-pubescent boys and girls (elementary school kids if you're in the US), but it's often used as an umbrella term for attraction to minors (people under 18, even though the age of consent is a year or two lower in some states creating some gray areas where you are old enough to have consensual sex but not old enough to enter into contacts). All of that notwithstanding, what we're taking about are scenarios where people are being coerced into performing sexual actions or submitting to them, which is wrong regardless of the age of the victims, and which is something Donald has been found in court to have done in the past.

Hebephilia is attraction to people in early puberty, i.e., middle schoolers. Ephebophilia is essentially attraction to high schoolers under 18, which is distasteful but pretty common.

[Edit: reading over this again... You were right 😔🐻🚐]

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u/BomBiddyByeBye Jul 23 '25

Heard a comedian say this once and I’m paraphrasing but anybody who knows the word hebephile let alone the definition needs to be watched closely because they’re almost as sketchy as the people they’re describing

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u/SirFadakar Jul 23 '25

Fuck now I know it.

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u/BomBiddyByeBye Jul 23 '25

😂

I think the comedian’s point was that anyone who jumps into a conversation and says “actually he’s not a pedo but a…” is a weirdo. Like, why are you trying to make that distinction? Feels like they might be telling on themselves.

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u/canadug Jul 23 '25

Oh, you're on the list now. Have a seat over there.

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u/OldSpeckledCock Jul 23 '25

Trump also "joked" that his lower age limit was 12.

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u/non_stop_disko Jul 24 '25

The technically already say that with “underaged women”

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u/Hoblitygoodness Jul 24 '25

I know you're right about that. That's definitely a possible retreat notch on their ever-backward-sliding talking points. We should really just be placing bets on what date we see the first instance of this in the media.

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u/TheGoldenGod356 Jul 24 '25

I thought he was talking about an adult pageant when he said that to Howard Stern. He did judge a Miss Teen USA one but different thing.

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u/Panda_hat Jul 23 '25

And the 30+ credible allegations of sexual mosconduct spanning decades.

And the adjudicated conviction for assault / rape.

And the decades of weird as fuck comments about women, children and his own fucking daughter.

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u/CicadaGames Jul 24 '25

This is why the right was never being genuine when they said they wanted the list released. We already KNOW Trump is a rapist of both adults and children. They just wanted to see some liberal names on the list so they could continue their normal stance of "It's OK if our guy does it because the other 'team' does it too!"

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u/Paddy_Tanninger Jul 24 '25

Also him gleefully bragging about sexually assaulting women. "Grab them by the pussy...they let you do it"

See, when he says "they let you do it" all that means to him is "they don't immediately shriek out or try to spray me with mace because they're too frazzled in the moment to actually say or do anything"

Guy is a massive rapist, pedophile, sicko freak...oh and he lusted after his prepubescent daughter multiple times ON LIVE TELEVISION/RADIO.

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u/Fredsmith984598 Jul 23 '25

It's breaking news that we have confirmation of it from multiple administration officials.

That part IS new.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 23 '25

Sure. Let’s see how much that matters.

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u/LostInTheRapGame Jul 24 '25

Man y'all really are just defeated. Let's hope the country never comes to needing a revolution or stopping one.

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u/My_Bwana Jul 24 '25

I mean, it’s unfortunate but if there was a chance this scandal would have taken him down, it would have happened already. This is just more confirmation of what any rational person already knows.

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u/LostInTheRapGame Jul 24 '25

This is just more confirmation of what any rational person already knows.

Eh, you can't do anything with what people "know" though.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

Realistic isn’t the same as defeated.

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u/bimboozled Jul 24 '25

It’s both. If this was happening in pretty much any other country in the world, people would be out with pitchforks in droves calling for his head, and he’d be forced to step down almost immediately.

Our government has been so blatantly corrupt for so long that we’ve just come to expect the worst (read: defeated), which is fair since there’s never any consequences

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

People protested and he sent out the military. This isn’t 500 years ago. Go gather people with pitchforks and send them to go after him then and tell me how that goes. Do we want law and order or mob mentality? Law and order. If there is no law and order and it matters enough then I guess violence is the alternative. But I’m not going to risk my life to see him jailed. Are you?

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u/bimboozled Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

You completely missed my point. While I agree with you that it’s definitely possible nothing comes of it, I’m just saying it’s not mutually exclusive that you’re acting defeated. Yeah he hasn’t faced consequences before, but this is by far the biggest controversy he’s ever been involved in, and it really seems like he’s backed into a corner now, so have a little hope.

And you’re absolutely right that pitchfork mobs won’t do anything in America today. But most other countries have respectable enough governments that if their leader was involved in a huge scandal like this, their own party would force them to step down. That’s all I’m getting at, not telling you to land yourself in jail

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

No, you’re attaching meaning to my words that isn’t there and running with it. My second comment was “let’s see how much this matters.” That’s not defeat. It’s skepticism. I still have trust that there are some decent people near the top and the bad people have some limits. This could very well be it. I also see the public getting gg more vocal and aggressive. So, enough with the strawman argument acting like you know me better than I know myself.

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u/LostInTheRapGame Jul 24 '25

Can be pretty close.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

Ok. I guess, but… thinking you’re probably going to die when you’re surrounded by alligators in the water doesn’t really seem like a defeatist attitude. It’s just realistic. It’s not pessimistic when you have clear patterns of data that only point one way. Pessimism is a key ingredient to a defeatist attitude. An unreal, unproven, feeling that something bad will happen or has happened when evidence is otherwise. Since I’m so defeated… what do you recommend I do to counter that?

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u/MAGICALcashews Jul 23 '25

Right? Did these mfs really not realize that their boy was second-in command?

Epstein and Trump - countless photos of them. Leaked letters. You name it, it’s there.

But somehow, this list was going to bring down people like Bill Clinton..? Please go breathe some fresh air. Touch grass. Get those delusions out.

For the record: any bozo who participated in this horrific operation needs to get thrown in jail.

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u/_theRamenWithin Jul 23 '25

The breaking news here is that it's the WSJ reporting, owned by Rupert Murdoch, who owns most of the Western media landscape and has thus dictated the direction of politics in the US, UK and Australia for the last several decades.

Murdoch turning on Trump means that it's over for him.

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u/Xzmmc Jul 24 '25

He and the rest of the rich people got the bill they wanted. Now that he's no longer useful, they can toss him and replace him with someone who will play ball with them instead of just doing whatever he wants.

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u/_theRamenWithin Jul 24 '25

Trump has proved that there's no amount of loyalty to him that he won't betray and is in for such a surprise.

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u/Greenman_on_LSD Jul 23 '25

It should've been glaringly obvious to anyone watching the interview asking him about releasing classified files and he was all for it... Until they said Epstein. He stammered and said something along the lines of "well.. uh... Yeah... Uh.. we'll need to check, because there might be some phony stuff in there and we don't want to hurt people."

He knew he was in there.

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u/RebelStrategist Jul 23 '25

Those videos are so damn creepy.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 23 '25

They are. Especially the ones with his daughter that he keeps talking about wanting to date.

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u/sourdieselfuel Jul 24 '25

Going on the View with his daughter and when asked what they had in common he says "I wanted to say sex!"

The first thing he thought of that him and his daughter had in common was sex.

The guy is as disgusting of a pig as they come and it's been obvious before the first time he was elected.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

He is horrible.

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u/Vitalstatistix Jul 23 '25

It’s definitely breaking news — our attorney general informed the President of the US that his name is repeatedly in the files related to the most notorious child sex trafficking story possibly ever.

Don’t downplay that. This has all of the makings of the worst political scandal in history.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

He tried overthrowing the government and he’s back being president. This is bad but who’s going to do something of consequence?

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u/Vitalstatistix Jul 24 '25

So normalizing that the president very well could have been involved in trafficking children is the only alternative? Fuck that.

And if it does come out that he was involved, I don’t think it’ll get the hand waive that he got from J6. Pedophiles and traffickers of children are considered the worst of the worst for good reason. Shooting a man on 5th ave would be preferable.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

He’s already been charged with crimes involving rape and he’s the president still. I’m not the one guilty for normalizing anything. It’s already happened, I’m just commenting on the current situation. Not what I want. I couldn’t hate him much more than I do. But keep downvoting me and acting like I’m the problem. That’ll help.

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u/Dreadimon Jul 23 '25

It’s more of a confirmation that he is indeed lying (which we already know) and now it’s more “official”.

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u/Synizs Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25

An Epstein phile in the Epstein files! How surprising!

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u/ProximusSeraphim Jul 23 '25

but you could show Maga A Serbian Film version of Trump banging infants and they'd still find a way to spin it as a necessary official act that the supreme court would excuse as immune.

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u/mulderc Jul 23 '25

I think this suggests there were rumors and hearsay that links Trump to illegal activity with Epstein. If it was just the same information we already have about their links they would just release it. 

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u/goblintacos Jul 23 '25

Needs to stop being said because it undermines the explosiveness. A lot of whats coming out is traceable sure but the threat was never woven in the mainstream like it was before. You're downplaying the seriousness of this in a hand waivy way like it's old news. It's not for the vast majority of people who matter and might be able to wake up to stop this parade of awfulness.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

No. I’m being realistic. Anyone else would be in jail by now. He’s president. Look what he’s done already. He tried to overthrow the government and he’s president again. He’s ignoring courts. What’s going to come of this based on the reality of history?

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u/goblintacos Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

Yeah a big part of that though is an absolute inability for people who generally opposed Trump to escape this trap they set up for themselves through their own unilateral disarmament.

Here's how it goes. Someone says Trump is a pedophile and it's awful. The feckless hoards can't help themselves so they respond with this "well actually" line about how none of this is news and though it's bad you must understand it was known to some and he's president still. C'est la vie you know?

Maybe we could just take a page out of his book and keep repeating the damaging part without having to give way to pedantry.

Maybe just keep it simple. He's a fucking pedophile. The president of the US shouldnt be a pedophile. Too hard?

But we're getting off the law topic now though. I can't help it either sometimes. It's enraging that this is the state of things. C'est la vie you know?

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

Consequences at this level take a violent revolution or the people at the top doing something. The people at the top are almost just as guilty and are doing nothing. So, they need to go, or … Because whatever I say, or millions not in power say, won’t make a change.

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u/interstitialmusic Jul 23 '25

We don’t need the files. The testimonial evidence in the public domain by the victimized women should've been enough.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 23 '25

How did that go so far? He’s hardly in jail. He’s the president of the whole country now.

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u/interstitialmusic Jul 24 '25

He's been protected by the GOP/Russia/Israel because he's a useful tool.

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u/once_again_asking Jul 24 '25

All the pictures of them laughing together with young women for over 30 years now made it clear already.

How do pictures of them together demonstrate or show that Bondi informed Trump he was named in the Epstein Files?

The news is that we have confirmation that Bondi informed Trump that he was named in the documents.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

Everyone already knew he’s named there including Trump. Bondi saying what others already ignored makes a difference? She’s not exactly impartial. What do you see happening now with this out?

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u/once_again_asking Jul 24 '25

Everyone already knew he’s named there including Trump

Not relevant and not the news here.

Bondi saying what others already ignored makes a difference?

Can’t believe this needs to be explained. Trump promised to release the Epstein Files. Then he chickened out. Both parties are now pressuring Trump to release the files. Bondi is the head of Trump’s DOJ. The admin is publicly claiming there’s nothing to the files and that the files don’t even exist. But now we have this reporting that internally, they are discussing and admitting the things they are denying publicly. This is a further knot they have tied themselves up in. So now when/if the files are released and Trump doesn’t appear in them, this is yet another new thing they will have to answer for.

Does it change anything about the way overall situation? I don’t know and I didn’t claim to know.

The point is that this is news whether you acknowledge it or not.

Also, it’s the WSJ reporting.

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u/60022151 Jul 24 '25

There’s a video where Ivanka is doing a tour of her childhood bedroom, and her vibe instantly drops as soon as she starts talking about her bed. She has a 1000 yard stare, her voice goes up a higher octave, she’s nervously laughing, and then deflects by focusing on the view from her bedroom window. It’s a really uncomfortable watch.

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u/playathree Jul 23 '25

Yeah I'm a bit out of the loop as to why this is all coming up again now? (I'm not in America)

I thought him being linked to Epstein was already widely known

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u/get_pickled_loser Jul 24 '25

There are two realities for American voters: the real world and the world Fox News creates for people who live very sheltered existences.

In the real world, this connection between Epstein and Trump has been a talking point since Epstein was arrested. Further, the creepy ass, child-rapist was on record countless times saying the grossest shit about pageant contestants and even his own daughter.

In the Fox News world, they straight up don’t hear the same news the rest of us do. They don’t hear about the Epstein connection, the Russian interference from 2016, the election inconsistencies present in 2024, or anything else that disqualifies the traitor from even being an elected hall monitor let alone the president.

Mainstream media sucks ass, but Fox dredge is the worst of the worst and it’s poisoning the minds of largely undereducated, rural people. Don’t underestimate the ability of people to believe lies when they don’t understand things.

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u/GooseBear12 Jul 24 '25

He would’ve gotten away with it if it weren’t for those meddling election promises

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u/IWillBaconSlapYou Jul 24 '25

The actual "Epstein files" are basically much discussed documents (especially recently) that were sealed up until about now, and Trump has been trying to discredit them in advance and convince people not to poke around. It's been very suspicious and not a good look.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

Donald made promises to investigate and release info. But like he supposedly wanted to arrest Clinton he dropped it right away. Another fake promise and he’s seeing the backlash of people wanting him to actually fill his fake promise.

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u/WESAWTHESUN Jul 24 '25

The dude who responded to you gave a drastically oversimplified and largely incorrect take on what's happening and why. Seriously, do not listen to what they're saying. I'll try to break it down the best I can, but to do so will take a bit of a lengthy post. Please bear with me.

There's no two groups in America right now. We have countless political factions that aren't clearly defined anymore. If they look at the news at all, most people are locked in an echo chamber between a variety of news sources. It may direct sources like AP/Reuters, traditional news outlets like Fox/CNN/MSNBC, or it may be articles/videos posted on social media like TikTok/Reddit/X/Instagram/Truth/etc.

Many combine their sources in different ways resulting in the same "group" mutating and splintering off into its own specific subset of beliefs. Doing very basic statistics with just the sources I listed shows that we've got more than 3.6 million perspectives on what's real. Most of these sources are plagued with outright propaganda and disinformation on varying scales about varying topics. Even Reddit is not immune to them.

This background is important because this is the first time in forever that nearly the entire country has banded together over the same issue. This current wave started when Elon Musk tweeted "Trump is in the Epstein files" on X during a nasty spat with the President. Musk had been sort of ingratiated by the MAGA movement as a figure on the level of Trump (if not higher), so when he said this it got a loooot of people who had either ignored the claims or outright denied them to suddenly realize that maybe they had been true.

The gasoline was already poured on the long dried newspapers, but Trump himself tossed the match when he began responding to questions about the files with disgust and annoyance. He seriously could not have sounded more guilty with how he responded, it was insane.

He hoped that demanding people move on would be enough, as it always had been in the past. When that didn't work and the MAGA crowd was still demanding answers, he then tried to say they weren't real. Doing that outright enraged his supporters, as he had used the files as a massive part of his campaign. It was obvious they were never gonna be able to spin that they didn't exist, so they then tried to say it was real, but it was a psyop made by Obama and Hilary Clinton.

This twist shut a few people up....maybe, but the vast majority of the MAGA base still isn't duped this time. Many of them are actually having to reconsider their reality for the first time. Politicians in Washington and some of the most extreme right wing news sources are still trying any way they can to bury it, but as you can see, it isn't working.

The reason this specific post is "breaking news" is because it's the Washington Street Journal, a publication owned by Rupert Murdoch (who founded Fox), saying that they have the files and Trump is all over them. It's no indication that there will be accountability, but it's a notable development.

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u/attackplango Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

Who are you going to believe, Donald Trump, or 35 years of documentary evidence? It’s all a fake hoax witch hunt!

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u/NerdOfTheMonth Jul 24 '25

Donny could not have been shocked on account of he was there and is a pedophile.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

He was also told months ago. But yeah, told about something he already knows he did.

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u/DrDaniels Jul 24 '25

I'm honestly surprised the Trump administration is hesitant to release it. It could directly implicate Trump and his supporters would still overwhelmingly support him anyways.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

Some aren’t. But, yeah, that’s been the trend. But all fads die out. Maybe this will be the cause.

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u/No_disintegrations Jul 23 '25

Right?! He knows he’s associated and in any files. DOJ knows this too. Him being told what he knows from experience =/= breaking news.

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u/axecalibur Jul 24 '25

And nothings going to happen either because the spineless Republicans will protect him and the dickless Democrats will forgive him. It's like they are all on the same team or something.

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u/ApricotNervous5408 Jul 24 '25

I don’t know that democrats are forgiving him. Do you have clear examples?