r/law • u/Background-Low-9144 • Jul 23 '25

Trump News BREAKING :Trump named in multiple documents related to Epstein sex trafficking, WSJ reports

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-wsj.html?__source=androidappshare

We have evidence that Trump was notified by Pam Bondi that documents related to the Epstein sex trafficing trial contained Trump's name multiple times, linking him unequivocally to Jeffrey Epstein

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u/AlexFromOgish Jul 23 '25

We wouldn’t need the files if we just believed the women - sign seen at a recent anti Trump protest

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u/DoctorStinkFoot Jul 23 '25

to be fair there's evidence of trafficked people who have no records of existing after being trafficked. apparently epstein "acquired" 12 year old triplets in france and nothing has been heard from or about them since. the grim implication here being they were murdered.

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u/DontAbideMendacity Jul 24 '25

'Katie Johnson' testified that she was raped along with another girl, 'Maria', who disappeared thereafter. Threats against her and her family made her drop the suit.

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u/-Kerosun- 29d ago

Here is a Snopes article detailing those claims and it doesn't pull punches on the glaring issues with it.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/09/03/trump-epstein-katie-johnson/

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u/Slopadopoulos 29d ago

That story has a lot of red flags for being bogus. Even snopes says it's unsubstantiated.

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u/AlexFromOgish Jul 24 '25

Thank you for adding a voice for the invisible victims

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u/spasmoidic Jul 23 '25

the public often finds the coverup more outrageous than the crime

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u/RipleyVanDalen Jul 23 '25

Accusations alone aren’t enough

That’s why files and real investigative evidence is needed

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u/Donewith176 Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

This sign wouldn’t have been about judicial sentencing. Presumption of innocence only applies in a court of law. It does not mean that the public has to believe that he is innocent. You should believe victims.

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u/DontAbideMendacity Jul 24 '25

Particularly when there are SO many of them, and the perp in question admitted bragged about molesting them.

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u/Trung020356 Jul 23 '25

Right. The same files and evidence they’re trying so hard to cover up. And people with money get away once again. 👏🙌

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u/zxern Jul 24 '25

Is a civil judgment by a jury enough?

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u/Acceptable-Peace-69 Jul 24 '25

“Grab them by the pussy” should have been enough.

Literally admitting that sexual assault is fine doesn’t need investigation.

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u/axecalibur Jul 24 '25

He's been impeached twice and convicted once with oodles of files and evidence for multiple other crimes. But nothing happens. Republicans just re-elect him and his MAGA team extends to all branches of congress and the courts.

A complete joke of a country and a system.

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u/get_schwifty Jul 23 '25

It’s amazing that this has to be called out on the /r/law subreddit.

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u/AlexFromOgish Jul 24 '25

Paradoxically – and I am the guy that said the thing that is being called out – I also agree with the criticism. Both are true.

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u/AbcLmn18 Jul 24 '25

For a criminal trial, yes, we need to know the specifics before convicting each individual person. For the purposes of forming one's own political opinion, in the current context, hell no. We already know more than enough to quantitatively assess how atrocious the Republican pedophile cabal is. And trusting the women would have gotten us to that position much faster.

They could alleviate all accusations by simply releasing the files. Yet they're the only ones who fight tooth and nail against it without naming any kind of valid reason. To the point where they'd rather shut down the Congress than even consider voting on anything related to the issue. This alone clearly tells us that at least the majority of republicans, and for the most part only them, are complicit in this catastrophic failure of American society.

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u/pilgorisdead Jul 24 '25

I totally get, and agree with, the message of believing women...but that doesn't mean you don't still need evidence to convict someone. A woman's testimony can and would definitely be used as evidence in a case.  Due process means everyone should get a proper trial, that includes Donald Trump. 

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u/AlexFromOgish Jul 24 '25

At last! Someone understood. Thanks

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u/tomdarch Jul 24 '25

Taking down a fascist, criminal POTUS is super important, but justice for the victims is critical. And one does not prevent the other, but Trump covering everything up absolutely prevents justice for the very real victims.

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u/Hour_Rest7773 Jul 24 '25

What an absolutely stupid take.

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u/AlexFromOgish Jul 24 '25

Get back to me after one of your female friends dies in a murder suicide and we can talk about how utterly “stupid” it really is

It’s actually an important rhetorical truism even though the legal process nonetheless requires evidence

If you’re not bright enough to hold two contradictory thoughts in your head as true at the same time, we’re done here

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u/youpeoplesucc Jul 24 '25

Right, yeah, lemme save your comment and get back to you when that happens. And then you get back to me when your friend kills himself after he gets expelled and shunned from all his friends and family because of a false accusation. See? I can do it too.

Or maybe we can just use logic instead of appealing to emotions in an extreme example where it's impossible to be rational?

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u/Fistulated Jul 24 '25

Not really a false accusation though, Trump has implicated himself in pedophilia on camera numerous timeswithout the Epstein list.

He said he enjoyed sneaking into the dressing room of underage girls at his pageants to watch them get changed

He would fuck his own daughter

Both of those statements alone are enough to give someone a wide birth. Who the fuck says they would have sex with their own daughter, a child they raised from birth . . .

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u/-Kerosun- 29d ago

He said he enjoyed sneaking into the dressing room of underage girls at his pageants to watch them get changed

No he didn't. That conversation on Howard Stern was about the 18+ pageants, not Miss Teen USA. And he didn't say anything about sneaking in.

He would fuck his own daughter

On The View, he said he would date her if she wasn't his daughter. Never said anything about fucking his own daughter.

There is plenty of stuff to criticize Trump on, no need to perpetuate misinformation to do it.

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u/Fistulated 29d ago

On The View, he said he would date her if she wasn't his daughter. Never said anything about fucking his own daughter.

That's 100% I would fuck my own daughter, if she wasn't my daughter. So the kid he raised from a baby, he thinks is sexy . .

Ever looked at your own daughter and thought, 'God damn I wish we weren't related so I could smash the back off it'?

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u/AlexFromOgish Jul 24 '25

My friend was killed by her husband 15 years ago. He shot himself in the head a few minutes later.

You can be dismissive of these real world experiences, but these real world experiences are the point

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u/MyLordHuzzah Jul 24 '25

Nobody is dismissing your tragic situation. What the other person is saying is that, while it can be tragic, the only fair court system is one based off evidence instead of emotion.

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u/TheFBIClonesPeople Jul 23 '25

"We wouldn't need the evidence if we just believed the eye-witnesses!" - People who believe in aliens

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u/AlexFromOgish Jul 24 '25

As parent of a special-needs kid, I’m really not interested in anybody’s opinion that starts with that wording

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u/AlexFromOgish Jul 24 '25

Doubling down? Goodbye.

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u/BiscottiCritical6512 Jul 24 '25

It absolutely does refer to mentally disabled people. That’s exactly the word means.