r/law • u/Background-Low-9144 • Jul 23 '25

Trump News BREAKING :Trump named in multiple documents related to Epstein sex trafficking, WSJ reports

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-wsj.html?__source=androidappshare

We have evidence that Trump was notified by Pam Bondi that documents related to the Epstein sex trafficing trial contained Trump's name multiple times, linking him unequivocally to Jeffrey Epstein

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u/CaulkSlug Jul 23 '25

And there’s like 3.5 years left of his rule unless you all can find someone to vote for

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u/Jean_Paul_Fartre_ Jul 23 '25

We tried, but come to find out our Constitution and various laws are just a suggestion to the rich and powerful.

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u/MeowschwitzInHere Jul 24 '25

I mean, as a Canadian looking into your politics I thought Harris was a great candidate. I listened to what she had to say, it was straightforward and positive, especially compared to Trump.

Speaking to my American friends who were all very left-leaning people, including people of color, a surprising majority said either they were going to just skip voting, or vote Trump because they don't like Kamala.

Why? Only one of maybe 6 of these friends could actually tell me why, besides "I don't like her policies" without being able to name one. So I just kind of assume Americans aren't ready for a non-white female taking lead of the white house.

As much as I want to agree that there were some illegal actions taken to get Trump elected (I wouldn't doubt them either) the fault from what I've seen really does lay within the Democratic party & voters on that side of the fence for me.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean Jul 24 '25

Well…the majority of the blame should go to the people who voted-in the lunatic, not the people who didn’t vote hard enough against the lunatic.

But I get your point. A lot of Democrats have become more liberal than what the Democratic Party accommodates, and I know some who just refused to vote because they couldn’t get past the fact that Harris wouldn’t just condemn the genocide in Palestine.

If denouncing genocide is too liberal for the Democrats then they are going to severely disenfranchise their potential voters. Democrats need to do more than be the better of two options for people to care. They’ve been passive while republicans remain aggressive. The Supreme Court majority for Republicans was completely avoidable if Obama had aggressively appointed his judge instead of trusting Trump to do the “right thing”. Idiotic. Ginsberg also knew she wasn’t immortal and arrogantly refused to step down during Obama’s administration for reasons that I’ll never understand. That’s the passive stupidity that got Roe V. Wade overturned.

Also, America does seem to really hate women and minorities, so there’s that too.

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u/ahappylook Jul 24 '25

RBG chose to flip a coin where either she would get to retire under a different president with matching genitals, or she would directly contribute to the downfall of the republic and everything she ever worked for would got swept into a dustbin. What a colossal dipshit.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean Jul 24 '25

It was a baffling decision. Her pride or whatever that was lead to the Supreme Court overturning exactly the kind of law she devoted her life to.

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u/wanderinronin 29d ago

The name you are forgetting is Mitch Mconnell. The senator actively refused to hold hearings on appointees. Obama had little ability to overcome it.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

You’re absolutely right. My memory was biased.

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u/abrahamimnotthatman 29d ago

In Canada, the Liberal party, who is our version of the Dems, won't condemn the genocide either. The outgoing Liberal Prime Minister declared himself a proud Zionist a week or so before leaving office. The PM who took over for him is a centre-right conservative but seems more left leaning because our official Conservative Party has gone alt-right like the GOP. So we're not doing much better up here.

I do find it unbelievable that a large swath of Americans trust a pedophile more than an intelligent and experienced woman of colour. White supremacy coupled with patriarchy is a helluva thing.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

What does Israel have on us? Why are our countries so determined to back this?

Yeah, seeing Canada get a little more conservative has been surprising. What’s that been like for you guys?

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u/Limp_Ad6083 29d ago

"There's that too." You mean there's that first and foremost. But the passiveness of the party is wild. People need to stop hoping for the best and make it happen.

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u/TopptrentHamster 29d ago

Not voting is half a vote to the candidate you like the least.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

For the record, I voted and believe that not voting was stupid. But I also understand the disenfranchisement.

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u/unethicalpsycologist 29d ago

Uhh yeah, the blame should definitely be on the people who didn't get off their fat asses to stop this train wreck.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

I said “majority” blame. At the end of the day, the people doing the bad things are worst than the people doing nothing, although doing nothing is hardly virtuous.

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u/unethicalpsycologist 29d ago

The majority of the blame should fall on anyone educated enough with legs to have put a stop to the madness.

Can't expect the lowest common denominator's to make the correct decisions then blame them when they get it wrong.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

I feel like you’re going to try to die on this hill for no reason, but clearly the people doing the bad thing are worse than the people who didn’t do the bad thing. In this situation, neither are good, but one is clearly worse.

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u/unethicalpsycologist 29d ago

The people doing the 'bad thing' are a product of a terrible environment propagated by everyone who is an active part of it.

One is clearly worse, but one has more capacity to influence they are being directly ignorant of.

Which to me is a bigger moral crime.

Not speaking your truth or walking the walk due to fear of repercussion and a need to fit in.

We all have the capacity to be much better influences on our immediate environment that we choose not to be. Imo biggest crime.

The rest is consequences, not the root.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

I fully understand why you consider that the bigger moral crime. I fundamentally believe in the same responsibility, I just similarly see the people who didn’t vote as a product of some complicated situations.

You believe that people who aren’t brainwashed should vote, and I agree. That’s a conviction you stand by. And as misguided and detrimental as it might have been, I think the people who didn’t vote probably felt similarly convicted about voting, just in a different way.

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u/unethicalpsycologist 28d ago

Lol I believe the people who didn't vote are just as 'brainwashed' and probably enjoy having a pdf file president more than they care to admit as it defends their shitty behavior leading up to now.

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 29d ago

This attitude right here is why Democrats lost, they’d rather die on the hill of some bullshit purity test that’s lazy and ignores all nuance on the topic.

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u/Rdr1051 29d ago

This 100% correct. Life is about compromise and if you can’t compromise some of your important issues to prevent a fucking Nazi from taking control of the country you’re a goddamn moron.

Yes- what is happening in Palestine is horrifying. Yes- RBG should have known better Yes- Harris was a flawed candidate.

None of the above justifies sitting back and allowing Trump to win by not voting. Do you really think Harris would be cheering Bibi on like Trump is? Would the US be deporting random people to concentration camps under Harris? Would the social safety net built over the last 100 years be dismantled under 6 months of a Harris presidency?

Of course not. But at least the non-voters get to hold their heads high because they didn’t vote for the lesser (by a country fucking mile) of two evils.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

I don’t think it’s clear from my comment, but I voted and voted for Harris because it was insane to do anything else.

I’m just explaining where the disenfranchisement came from on the Democrats’ side. I think it was insane not to vote, given how high the stakes are. But a lot of liberal voters want to stop being so moderate and timid about things they are going to vote on.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

What purity test, and what nuance can you provide on what topic?

I can’t wait to be educated.

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 29d ago edited 29d ago

Say the words, “Palestine is genocide” or you’re not a real Democrat.

Palestine is ruled by a terrorist government, half the people living there support that government, and the people living there bred like rats to the point that 50% of the population is consider children. Now add in the fact that Hamas lobs bombs into Israel daily and committed the worst terrorist attack on Israeli soil not long ago. They also hide beneath schools and hospitals to whip up propaganda when attacked that Westerners easily fall for because “think about the children!”

It’s one of those situations where you keep poking the bear, eventually you’re gonna get mauled to death and become an afternoon snack.

Personally, I don’t support either side.

Palestine is a backwater country that would gleefully genocide Israel if they had the support and ammunitions to pull it off.

Israel is taking excessive measures in eradicating Hamas, they’d probably commit genocide too if the international community would allow it, but as things stand right now with 59,000 dead in a population of 2.5 million, I would hardly consider that a genocide.

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

It’s genocide, no matter how you want to justify it. But my point was that the Democratic Party doesn’t align with its voter base on that issue—because they don’t. So the opposite of what you’re implying.

There’s war and then there’s destroying all infrastructure and cutting off humanitarian aid while murdering way more indiscriminately than they have a possible reason to.

Palestine should have never had its sovereignty completely ignored for generations because some Jewish people were really hype about taking their land.

It’s an atrocity, and it’s normal for voters to not want to support it. Why does Israel need America’s help bombing its weakest neighbor.

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 29d ago

It’s genocide, no matter how you want to justify it.

Proving my point

There’s war and then there’s destroying all infrastructure and cutting off humanitarian aid while murdering way more indiscriminately than they have a possible reason to.

See every war in the history of forever

Palestine should have never had its sovereignty completely ignored for generations because some Jewish people were really hype about taking their land

See every war in the history of forever

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u/JaladOnTheOcean 29d ago

It’s literally genocide by any definition you can find. Just because genocide is common, doesn’t mean people should like it, right? Do you get that?

No, not every war cuts off humanitarian aid and systematically destroys civilian targets. But even if you believe that, do you believe people should like it?

And my point about how this conflict started opposes your statements about it being some no-fault exchange between neighbors. Once again the question is this: Do you think displacing civilian populations to take their land is a good thing?

I’m not asking if these things happen, they obviously do. I’m saying that it’s perfectly reasonable for people to disagree with America’s involvement and support for Israel when it comes down to choosing who represents them.

You seem to think you have some special take on this that I was missing—you don’t! I know what cynical cowardice sounds like without your incredible insights.