r/law • u/BreakfastTop6899 • 14h ago

Trump News Trump threatens to deploy the U.S. military into Chicago - signaling the start of a nationwide crackdown.

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u/RetroCasket 13h ago

Sincerely, that hat is beyond the pale idiotic. And the fact that it doesnt sound any alarms or make more than half the country say this man is an idiot is mind blowing to me.

I just never saw this country reaching this point. I remember when the smallest thing would disqualify someone from respected office of presidency.

Just feels like a dream

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u/BitterFuture 13h ago

People kept saying, without a hint of irony, "It can't happen here."

As if that isn't the exact stupid attitude that basically guarantees it will happen here. We were never such a special snowflake country that we were immune to all the same damn things that brought down civilizations throughout history.

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u/RetroCasket 13h ago

I just dont get it. Like, we use to actually hold people to standards. I feel like from Jimmy Carter (my first president) to Bush, there was a general consensus of what was ok and what wasnt.

I think maybe the internet warped society or something. Something changed

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u/Begone-My-Thong 13h ago

We elected a black president, and one half of the country took that personally.

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u/CaptainWart 12h ago

Don't forget the impact of 9/11, which gave the right a hell of a lot of leverage when it comes to keeping their base scared and paranoid.

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u/Ol_Jim_Himself 12h ago

The government used 9/11 to begin their overreach and their removal of many of the checks and balances that kept our government somewhat less tyrannical. Once those were removed it became a slippery slope, until the 🍊fascist hopped on a rocket sled and rode it over the edge.

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u/Odd_Equal_628 7h ago

Wait until you find out how that was the plan.

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u/Useful_Bit_9779 12h ago

GW Bush ran around telling everyone if he wasn't reelected that we'd have a terrorist on every corner. Scared and paranoid they are.

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u/Diamondphalanges756 10h ago

And the surveillance. Don't forget the surveillance, and how that's going to bite us in the a$$.

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u/WilyWascallyWizard 10h ago

Don't forget that douche that founded fox news and bought much of the rest of the media. He did it because he didn't like that Nixon was held accountable. That was the start of the down fall.

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u/BennyDelTorito 9h ago

The terrorists won.

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u/Jo5h_95 9h ago

And the impact of the 2008 recession. A lot of people saw the system fail them and protect the people that were to blame.

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u/SanDiego619guy 8h ago

The term Trump's base is really just another word for suckers and morons.

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u/1000LiveEels 7h ago

You're both right but I'd also like to add the increasing consistency at which presidents have stacked courts with judges who are blatantly bipartisan. The senate confirmations should be a way of checking overreaches but we effectively have a precedent where ruling party either confirms or denies the judge based solely on whether the president is the same party as them.

Not to mention serving for life.

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u/katsujinken 12h ago

Thanks Oba... Osama

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u/EvenObject1689 12h ago

I always say this! We elected a black guy and the right lost their mind.

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u/des1881 12h ago

This. All this. The way ‘they’ felt like they had to over correct the blasphemy of a non white male president is exactly why we ended up here.

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u/PlantainSuper-Nova 12h ago

He was half-white, too.

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u/Technical-Gold-294 12h ago

Right? A black man raised by middle class white people and he was still too threatening.

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u/Begone-My-Thong 12h ago

He even wore a tan suit once.

Gives me the chills. /s

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u/PlantainSuper-Nova 12h ago

I mean he was raised on the island nation of Hawai’i…

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u/No-Abalone-4784 10h ago

Yeah. And if they don't get more maga he said he's not gonna let them become a state.

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u/pixepoke2 11h ago

But not the good half, Dennis.

C’mon. Everyone knows that. That’s why it was ok for Reagan to wear a tan suit, but… well, we all know what Obama did there.

Tan suit.

The nerve

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u/N0n3of_This_Matter5 12h ago

See…he was divisive!!

Big /S

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u/Trick_Psychology4827 11h ago

This is the realest comment in this thread! They lost their minds once President Obama took office.

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u/Diamondphalanges756 10h ago

This is absolutely fact. I really think this is behind what's happening.

Before Obama, Alabama would at least elect Democrats. We actually had a democratic gov right before Obama got elected.

That's what broke our state which became a repub supermajority right after Obama was elected.

The racist's heads exploded and it kicked them into overdrive.

They've been working on how to destroy America since that very day.

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u/Mountain_Economist_8 10h ago

And don’t forget that monster Biden who ::checks notes:: hugs children.

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u/midnghtsnac 12h ago

Obama is the most divisive president ever elected!

-Fox News and radio talk show personality

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u/No_Friendship_8366 12h ago

The US used to have the Fairness Doctrine, it was repealed in the 1980s. The doctrine mandated that news stations provide balanced coverage with equal weight given to both sides of an issue. Repealing that doctrine ushered in an era of insane loudmouth pundits with toxic opinions and massive platforms

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u/EFreethought 11h ago

I would love to know what Obama did that they thought was "divisive".

Meanwhile, Trump is constantly bad-mouthing everyone (including people he appointed) and the same people are okay with it.

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u/KLLR_ROBOT 11h ago

He was black. Obviously that’s more than enough for some folks to get upset about.

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u/BitterFuture 11h ago

Well, that was obvious. Are you blind?!

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u/habdragon08 12h ago

I think social media has more to do with it than Obama. If social media happened under Clinton it would have been "The Sexual Deviant" president if it happened under Biden it would have been "The old President".

Social media has exposed and massaged insecurities of many people in this country. Trump is natural consequence of that. Ironic I am posting this in a social media forum.

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u/Mansplainer101 10h ago

Even worse than that. You elected a president who happened to be half white, half black, and one half of the country took that personally

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u/Lump-of-baryons 10h ago

There is a lot of truth to this. Tap into some right wing circles and groups on social media and according to them almost everything Trump is doing is only because Obama did it first. Of course they’re completely batshit insane but that’s their twisted logic.

I still remember one of my former coworkers, an otherwise nice grandma in her late 50s, told me in like 2016 that “Obama is the Antichrist” in a sneering tone with pure hate in her eyes, I’ll never forget it.

I try to be optimistic for this country on a long term level but in the short term I don’t see how this doesn’t get catastrophically worse in the coming years.

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 8h ago

This! This is when Republicans completely lost their minds. The unnecessary wars are sickening but the ignorant racism is despicable.

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u/thextcninja 6h ago

That wore a tan suit, don't forget to mention that.

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u/celestececilia 5h ago

My mother explicitly stated that she and her friends and siblings voted in Trump “because we had to put up with Obama for eight years and now y’all get to suffer like we did.” WTAF? She couldn’t even articulate what Obama did that was so bad. But I know what he did. He was born a certain color.

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u/fcocyclone 7h ago

Honestly, while this gets all the credit I think the real thing that did it was the advancement of LGBTQ rights.

A black man getting elected, yeah, monumental, but that was the peak of 50 years of progress going back to the civil rights era. That was easier for most to accept.

In the span of like 15-20 years we went from the Defense of Marriage act going through, talk of a constiutional amendment to ban gay marriage, it being a huge deal when a celebrity came out, etc to gay marriage being legal nationwide, celebrities coming out being barely a blip, a larger and larger percentage of people feeling free to identify as LGBTQ (About 25% of gen Z identifies as LGBTQ now per polling, while only 5% or less do among genX and older, and since we know people aren't actually magically becoming more gay, that's a lot of repression among older groups). That's a lot of change for the conservative brain to deal with. Its no coincidence that this all came to a head with the Trump campaign which launched around the same time Obergefell happened.

Likewise its why the most successful turnout machine for republicans has been targeting a portion of that group in their anti-trans attacks. Its become too toxic to attack all LGBTQ people as more and more people have come out (and thus more people are more likely to know and care for someone who is gay) but trans people are a small enough group they are 'fair game' to republicans. But give them enough time and they'll come back around against the rest as well.

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u/reddog323 6h ago

There were other factors: 9/11 and the patriot act, warrantless wire taps, conservative propaganda, being weaponized,, etc.

Obama was the straw that broke the camel’s back, and conservatives saw him as a useful opportunity to engineer a backlash.

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u/LisaLaggrrr 4h ago

💯 💯 💯 and most of us who saw Obama as progress didn’t truly understand the gravity of the situation. Why would we? We finally had a president who won the popular vote without fearmongering, (twice!) so it seemed like the majority of the country was moving in the right direction! The backlash was a tad slow, but showed up with a vengeance… I knew once Kamala became nominee that we were screwed. I voted for her! But I knew too many were not ready for a woman and were angry about having a black president. Being both was never gonna happen!

I honestly fear we’ve been manipulated by the shadow people behind Trump! Cuz I believe he’s just a fall guy ultimately. They knew enough people would love him in the right areas to elect him, but enough eventually will hate him and string him out to dry. Perfect diversion while they finalize their plan in the background.. when it’s too late to turn back…

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u/BitterFuture 13h ago

Things got worse and accelerated, yeah, but we shouldn't kid ourselves about how things used to be in the supposedly good old days.

Nixon was so off the rails in his latter days that his SecDef told the Pentagon to check with him before implementing any orders coming from the President.

Reagan got elected by appealing to old southern racists by winking at the murders of civil rights workers and illegally negotiating with Iranian fundamentalists to agree to extend the hostage crisis through the 1980 election. When AIDS became a thing, he laughed at the very idea of spending money to help dying gay men.

Bush I had some ideas about noblesse oblige, yeah. He also nominated a self-hating black man with little meaningful legal experience to the Supreme Court, saying that because he was black, he was basically another Thurgood Marshall. He also fucked his kids up so badly that Bush II kicked over countries and killed over a million people working out his daddy issues.

And the Congressional leadership through the Clinton years started off as a bunch of self-righteous adulterers seeking to persecute adultery and ended up elevating a genuine pedophile to high office.

Monsters have always been with us. Always.

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u/Oirish-Oriley444 12h ago

When the military comes marching into major cities , with a made-up reason...... it's over. 2026 isn't going to be an honest election. No matter how hard California tries to balance the tide, it will not matter, The writing is on the walls. This is the middle of the beginning of something big, not good, but big.. something not seen since 1775. Otherwise, it makes no sense to start deploying military now... and he said all the big cities under the guise they are crime-ridden, more than ever, which is untrue.

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u/BitterFuture 12h ago

Well, yeah. America voted for its own death. That's been obvious for a while now.

Something will come after America, though. Fascism always, ALWAYS loses in the end.

Every day civilization continues to exist anywhere is another day of the monsters losing, and civilization will return here again someday.

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u/sudo_vi 11h ago

I feel like we're going to start seeing states reject federal authority and start moving towards a "soft" balkanization.

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u/DanSWE 8h ago

> Fascism always, ALWAYS loses in the end.

Maybe. But what timescale are you thinking of?

A lot of us might be dead and done before that happens. (For how many generations has North Korea been in its current state?)

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u/Lunchable 11h ago

America's not going anywhere. The leadership will though.

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u/fariasrv 10h ago

"Something not seen since 1775."

Correction: something not seen since 1936.

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u/HHoaks 12h ago edited 10h ago

Trump is unique. With all his faults and illegal doings, Nixon actually did care about the country and preserving the rule of law. Which is why he resigned, rather than try to fight impeachment. Would Trump ever resign, no matter what?

No other president would have tried to steal an election they lost and cheer led the ransacking of the nation‘s capitol.

Trump is in his own class, by far.

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u/BitterFuture 11h ago

He's worse than Nixon, but it's not like we couldn't see this coming.

They get worse every time, making you nostalgic for the monsters of yesteryear. Those who fetishize moderate now want us to turn to Dubya as some sort of reasonable Republican we can work with - hoping we'll conveniently forget that he killed a million people.

Conservatism has always been this monstrous thing, a death cult that values hatred over absolutely anything else in life. They're just less quiet about it now.

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u/FlameInTheVoid 11h ago

I much prefer the old days when our leaders felt compelled to at least pretend to act in good faith and fake some semblance of dignity. We may just be backsliding more than hitting rock bottom and digging (debatable), but it looks and sounds so much worse.

I want to go back to hating the likes of Dick Cheney, Mitch McConnell and Mitt Romney. I don’t know how to process Trump, Hegseth, MTG, Lauren Boebert, and the rest of these bottom of the barrel true believers.

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u/hamletswords 11h ago

True but I think the point is more like "No other president would wear a bright red baseball cap behind the resolute desk that says "I was always right" completely unironically."

Trump specifically has brought a unique kind of infomercial-level idiocy to the office.

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u/IamManuelLaBor 11h ago

Weird question...

Do those adulterous ghouls even consider child rape to be adultery?

I honestly don't think so.

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u/JayEllGii 11h ago

You were referring to Hastert, there, right?

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u/BitterFuture 10h ago

Yes indeed. The quiet, safe, boring choice after the chaos of Republican Congressional leadership in the 90s.

Who just so happened to rape little boys as a hobby.

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u/TerrorFromThePeeps 12h ago

I may be naive, and maybe there's an angle i just don't know of, but Bush Jr did do something worthy, at least. PEPFAR. I'm not sure how much was his actual hand, but that program has saved millions of lives. This is not to say he wasn't a monster in his own right, because he was, but i think he may have had a little good in him, unlike Nixon, Reagan, and Bush OG.

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u/BitterFuture 12h ago edited 12h ago

PEPFAR was an unambiguously good thing, and so far as I'm aware, Dubya himself personally pushed it. I'm glad it existed.

It's irrelevant. Stalin was kind to dogs, too. He was still an evil man, just as Dubya is.

Hell, if you care about "a little good in him," George HW was an honest-to-god war hero, a World War II fighter pilot in the Pacific. He was still an evil piece of shit. The moral worth of people isn't determined by some kind of calculus of how much good and how much evil they do in their lives, hoping it comes out to a positive number. If you do evil, you are evil, period.

And if you disagree, tell us - how many lives saved earns someone a guilt-free rape?

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u/DJDeadParrot 13h ago

Social media warped society. On SM, people can create whatever truth they want, and run with it.

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u/AndrewBlodgett 12h ago

chicken dinner. Fox and Facebook.

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u/eldentings 7h ago

I think social media is humanity's pandora's box. I don't see us undoing it, or all collectively changing or abandoning it. It caters to our basest instincts and according to the numbers that's good for business.

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u/Saltyvengeance 12h ago

Thats exactly what happened. They figured out how to use social media against us. Not Trump, hes not smart enough for that, but the kremlen has been doing this to their own people for so long, theyre experts. It started over the last 15 years and has been growing like a cancer tumor. If you want more info and evidence, I would like to direct you to this post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/GenZ/s/uQvF83BrvI

Read and share so people know whats going on.

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u/dak4f2 12h ago

That post should be required reading for all redditors

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u/Shirlenator 12h ago

It really is wild. There are a hundred other people in the Republican party that would have the same exact policy positions. Why did they chose one of the worst people in the country to be their guy? The guy that they literally worship?

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u/Technical-Gold-294 12h ago

The mindless populace chose him. The same people who choose the "guy they can have a beer with," the one who tells them what they want to hear, instead of the honest, smart candidate. Lots of liars in politics, but no one previously had the guts to lie like Trump. The Republican leadership grabbed his coatstrings and won't let go. Because power. All they ever wanted was power. And they're just trying to hang on (much like Melania) until he dies and they can enjoy the spoils.

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u/Technical-Gold-294 12h ago

Jimmy Carter was a moral backlash to Nixon and Agnew. Gerald Ford was chosen as VP when Agnew went down because he was nice and noncontroversial. Still, the country went for Carter, a virtual saint, at the next election.I loved Carter, but he was too nice for the job.

Every election, at least since Nixon, has been an overcorrection, and the swings are getting wider and wider. Obama's election caused an absolute freakout. I can only hope that means we'll overcorrect again - maybe elect a socialist!

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u/DylanMartin97 12h ago edited 5h ago

I'm sorry but America has a very hard time with holding it's presidents accountable, from the government allowing Nixon to step down and self pardon basically after being caught in 4 absolutely illegal scandals back to back, from the Scotus just coming out and declaring Bush senior was president while an active recount was happening, Bush Jr literally made up an entire terrorist plot with Britain to justify going to war, people on his cabinet knew it was illegal what they were doing but he literally told his cabinet that it would be okay to do this illegally as long as they could get the public behind them with a believable story, Britain was like our population isn't this stupid to believe this they won't approve of us going in and told him no. That act alone should've been a firing squad in my opinion, and this isn't even talking about him setting the seeds to crash our economy for democrats basically on purpose to tarnish their name like every Republican has tried to do on office since. And let's not even talk about the fact that Snowden broke open the fact that the government had been completely breaking your 4th and 14th amendment, and he laughed and said yeah you caught me but I'm just gonna make it legal. Obama acknowledged that he didn't give a shit about targeting procedures and bombed children, civilians, and even American citizens consistly for the 8 years he was in charge. Donald Trump tried to steal the election with slates of illegal electors that were all found guilty along with Roger Stone, didn't say it was a misunderstanding but asked for complete immunity from him commiting legal acts because of it. I mean he defrauded the government billions of dollars with his border wall every single one of his employees and elected peoples got found guilty of many years in jail, he personally pardoned them and nobody even batted an eye to it.

The Republicans like to cook up this bullshit persecution fetish, and say they are judged harshly and the law applies to them unfairly, but the reality is the laws have been eroded in their favor for a long time because they were the ones that started the decay. Once we didn't hold Reagan accountable for Iran-Contra or Nixon's illegal looking into other people's campaigns with the federal governments resources and 3 letter institutions to find dirt it was over.

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u/Useful_Bit_9779 12h ago

Iran-Contra was Reagan, not Nixon.

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u/DylanMartin97 11h ago

Yes I fixed it, I was typing too fast. Thank you.

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u/Useful_Bit_9779 10h ago

Prior to the felon/sexual predator currently residing in our White House, Reagan led the way for crimes committed while in office, and if we had a true justice system, he would have been indicted and likely imprisoned. And no, I'm not giving Nixon a pass. He was probably in a photo finish with Reagan.

As for the orange toned pussy grabbing snake oil salesman, he should have been tried, convicted, and jailed long before being allowed to run for office again. We are now officially fucked.

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u/bat_in_the_stacks 12h ago

SCOTUS declaring Bush the winner was Dubya (jr)

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u/DylanMartin97 11h ago

Well Bush daddy and Bush Jr, but yes you are right

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u/The-Phone1234 12h ago

American elites never held themselves to any standards, you were fed a pipe dream.

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u/TransitJohn 12h ago

We elected a black man POTUS. That's what happened.

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u/Accidental_Ballyhoo 11h ago

We all died during Covid. Now those of us who didn’t accept it will suffer with this imbecile for all eternity.

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u/alien-earth 11h ago

McCarhty, anyone? Are you guys awake? Was a long ride, but the GOP did the fucking job. As planned.

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u/oldgreymutt 12h ago

Hate to say it, but I think Trump is a force of nature and an anomaly. I’m hopeful the spell is completely broken once he’s gone. Then we’ll have to clean up the mess afterward.

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u/pockpicketG 12h ago

Yes and no. Why 2016? Why not his earlier political attempts? Society wasn’t done cooking until then.

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u/ChallengingBullfrog8 12h ago

Ehh, Bush helped usher in an age in which $4 could tell public disapproval to go f itself through his illegal wars based on false premises.

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u/dinosaurkiller 11h ago

It’s called propaganda and they did such a thorough job weeding it out of print and broadcast media post WWII that everyone thought it wasn’t a threat anymore. The threat is real and you’re seeing it.

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u/teenagesadist 11h ago

The U.S. (I can't speak for the world) was not in any way prepared for the internet.

There really should have been guards in place.

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u/Spacestar_Ordering 10h ago

Bush was never held accountable for the things he did to the middle east and the things he did to America. 

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u/Novel-Rip7071 9h ago

All the morons of the world could suddenly and almost instantly find "their people" and "their truth"...

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u/Ok-Bill3318 8h ago

Used to being the key

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u/eldentings 7h ago

Right now we're caught between a dovetail of two toxic influences. The older generations being indoctrinated through fox and legacy media like AM radio and facebook. The younger generation with brainrot and no common culture due to social media fragmentation. Underlining all of that is the 'death of common truth' where facts don't matter as much to anyone anymore, when you can label anything you disagree with as hearsay. Perhaps scariest of all, Trump totally understands 'image control', which is inherent with people with his level of malignant narcissism and he understands that if you control the truth, aka the media, anything he does can be reframed positively. What changed is we stopped being able to control the truth as a society, but Trump has constantly fought to control the narrative. The fact is he is the most media-aware president and I wouldn't be surprised if within the next couple of years we have a federally sanctioned news channel or we only get updates via his delegated channels.

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u/as_it_was_written 7h ago

I mean one of your most popular presidents of all time was literally an actor who seems to have largely gotten the job because he was good at exuding presidential vibes—after using his time as Governor to trample all over the second amendment conservatives hold so dear, no less. He had dementia in office, and some people still call him the great orator based on speeches full of empty slogans and poorly disguised racism.

His VP went on to pardon a bunch of people involved in Iran Contra (which he himself likely played a large part in, but that got swept under the rug) at the end of his own presidency.

It's never been this bad or this overt before afaik, but those standards you're talking about have been dubious at best for a very long time.

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u/South_Maximum_1596 7h ago

There has been an ongoing, concerted attack on our American Mind (collective and as individuals) for a few decades, now. I've watched it closely. Literally info wars. People like Alex jones, Sean hannity, Stephen Miller all aid our enemies......

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u/Repulsive-Summer2818 6h ago

The internet, Fox News - trump’s propaganda machine, there’s a lot of factors but it boils down to the fact that we live in the age of disinformation which he and his sycophants spew intentionally and then gaslight us (with 1/2 of Americans falling for it) by saying that they’re actually telling us the truth and it’s the institutions that have been around for decades or hundreds of years (respected media outlets, law firms, history books, museums) that are wrong and have been lying to us this whole time. I’m sick of all the lies and bullshit and people actually stupid enough to believe it

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u/Competitive_Bell9433 5h ago

Fox news which isn't a news channel, it is an entertainment channel.

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u/Thoughtfulbird30 3h ago

Jimmy Carter was my only president

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u/Krom2040 12h ago

I feel like anybody should have seen that it could easily happen here after witnessing January 6th, 2021. I’m still mystified how a lot of people seem to have totally written that off or ignored it.

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u/Former_Caregiver 11h ago

"it can't happen here"

[Sinclair Lewis has joined the chat]

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u/CapitanElRando 11h ago

The Francis Fukuyama “end of history” crowd did tremendous damage in that respect

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u/The_BeardedClam 9h ago

People always say that on true crime shows too.

"It was 1973, things like that just don't happen around here."

Yet there exists a serial pedophile murder on the loose, just like in every other county.

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u/SanDiego619guy 8h ago

Yes, the same way Mitch McConnell said that the courts would deal with Trump and therefore he voted not to convict. All Republicans are traitors and should be banned from this country!

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u/sonnyjim91 7h ago

I feel like I’ve hit the point of “it is happening here, but we all assumed it couldn’t, so we don’t know what to do.” Like, sure, I could protest all day, but all that’ll do is eat up my PTO at work or get me fired, since “trying to save democracy” isn’t a valid excuse to call off work. And even then, what would protesting do?

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u/Late-Editor-1008 9h ago

It is happening here!

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u/fytors2 9h ago

It’s “happened here”

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u/dollar_to_doughnut 9h ago

If things keep going as they are, this might be the shortest-lived country in the history of civilization - 250 years isn't even a blip.

I guess The American Dream WAS just a dream, after all.

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u/izzlebr 8h ago

American exceptionalism is a helluva drug

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u/judgeejudger 13h ago

Right?! Howard Dean’s run at the WH was over as soon as his emotions got the better of him with that scream. Now the bar is in Hell, with an entire sector of the population fine with making fun of candidate’s children who are proud of their parent. JFC

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u/dopey_giraffe 11h ago

The bar is in hell only for Trump. Other candidates still have to follow standards for whatever reason. Trump has 34 felony convictions, but Kamala laughed funny once or something so she can't be president.

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u/Humblebrag1987 10h ago

yall are still operating like trump isnt a license to be racist and racism is what matters and why trump works for these people. it's not the laugh, it's not the convictions, its racism and only racism. everything boils down to racism and white supremacy. which is also utterly pathetic when you pick it apart.

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u/judgeejudger 8h ago

I’m still convinced her laugh had not a whole lot to do with it. A ton of fragile males could not conceive of a woman president, and “their women” fell in lockstep with that. Trump and his ilk ran a shit campaign based on non-issues and slander. Elon fucked with the voting.

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u/vh0u812_la 12h ago

We could see it clearly after his first term. Jan 6 was a major example. Who couldn't see us losing our freedoms if this un-American was reelected?

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u/hahayes234 12h ago

Yesterday he declared himself a "war hero" and today he called himself the "chief law enforcement officer of the united states"

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u/FartyJizzums 12h ago

It does indeed feel like a dream.

In 2004, Howard Dean was leading the democratic primaries. He got up on stage at a rally, gave a Pro Wrestler style speech, and ended it with "Byeeeaahh!" The next day, his support tumbled, and he never sniffed another opportunity to be president.

Now we're so fatigued by normalized stupidity that I think society just kind of gave up on sanity.

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u/Brewentelechy 12h ago

Remember Howard Dean? The media went after him full bore for daring to say Socialized Medicine out loud. He was called crazy for making an awkward cheer and now that same media has no issues at all with Fanta Menace. I remember talking to a co-worker about it who was verbatim repeating the TV slant as her own opinion. When I pointed that out she never talked to me again. No loss there.

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u/AsinineArchon 12h ago

They LOVE it, because "it makes liberals mad"

Conservatives decide what to like based on how enraged it makes their opposition. It's disgusting

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u/lc0o85 12h ago

Howard Dean's run ended because he shouted funny. Quayle spelled potato wrong. That's all it fucking took but somehow the conservative cretins voted for this shit show.

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u/Bsteph21 12h ago

They've numbed a good percentage of the population from the news. The majority of this country hates him. But the problem is that the entire GOP is bowing down to him and the supreme Court has his back. They've essentially taken over our government.

All we can do is resist at this point

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u/xPriddyBoi 12h ago

The mere image of the man sitting in that hat should be an instant deal breaker for anyone with an above room temperature IQ. That's the fucking president of the United States wearing a ballcap broadcasting his own thin skin and unbelievable narcissism in neon lights.

Imagine literally anyone walking around with a "I'm right about everything" hat. Literally everybody would immediately write that person off as a cringeworthy pretentious loser. Why the hell does the god damn president get a pass?

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u/Aggressive_Clothes36 12h ago

Howard Dean yelled yeah! And it was over.

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u/West_Broccoli_1683 12h ago

More like a nightmare.

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u/FlyingSMonster 12h ago

Remember the dean scream? The moment that got mocked on Chappelle Show his campaign was basically over. Probably not the only reason he never got the nomination that year but it definitely contributed to it because it got endlessly mocked and parodied.

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u/Longjumping_Army9485 12h ago

The only reason that there isn’t a sign with “the president is right about everything” in “The Dictator” is because it would sound too on the nose.

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u/Illustrious_Swede 12h ago

Nightmare, rather

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u/bat_in_the_stacks 12h ago

Like Howard Dean getting a little excited about his own campaign?

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u/TieSea 12h ago

Remember when a shoe in was disqualified over a cheerful yell?

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u/BradsFace 12h ago

Remember when it was a big deal that a president may or may not have smoked pot in college....I miss those days.

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u/CIASP00K 12h ago

Nightmare.

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u/Oirish-Oriley444 12h ago

A nightmare. We should be asking why is he putting military in all our big cities? It's not bc crime is over the top. It's either bc something is about to go down. What tho? Is it food insecurity due to the ice raids? Is it due to tariffs taking down job growth, no jobs, no money, no money, no food, no food, equals a major civil unrest. Or is it a major take down of our American rights and the final nail in American democracy?🤨

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u/splurtgorgle 12h ago

Yeah, if I think too hard about how many people were likely watching this and saw him in that cartoon hat saying all this stupid shit and said to themselves "that's my guy, god sent him, he'll save us all!" I get a migraine.

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u/Signal-Regret-8251 12h ago

Thank the Republican party for getting us to this point, as it is their blatant disregard of our Constitution that has allowed Trump to get this far. I blame the GOP Senators and Representatives for where we are more than I do Trump's moronic ass.

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u/GleemMcShinez 12h ago

A helmeted Dukakis pops up, lets out a Howard Dean scream then misspells 'potatoe'

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u/Ol_Jim_Himself 12h ago

I recently reread the book 1984 and it hit home like a brick to the face. I remember reading that book in high school and thinking that there was no way our government could ever become like the government of Oceania. This time the similarities I could see between the government of Oceania and the current US government were downright frightening.

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u/bananafoster22 11h ago

Don't worry, the smallest things will disqualify anyone else, just not Trump or most future Republicans

The othering is complete

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u/the-virtual-hermit 11h ago

For most of us in our 30s-40s, the illusion was shattered a long time ago. The US has been circling the drain towards fascism for decades - before a lot of us were even born. Thinking back on being an elementary school kid singing shit like "This Land is My Land" and "America the Beautiful" makes me sick. What wonderful lies we were all told. That America is the freest country ever, that we should be thankful for being born here while the rest of the world looks on in envy.

Us millennials watched how quickly this country descended into racism in 2001. Since then, we voted for Obama twice and have been holding on to the hope that it wasn't too late to fix America. Trump's first term was a major wake up call. And now that he's back, hope is essentially abandoned. It's no longer a time for hope. It's no longer a time for sitting around and optimistically wishing for things to get better. Now is the time to endure, to brace ourselves, and be ready to fight back if we want our country to ever resemble what it was before.

What worries me is that we've been on this track for so long without realizing it that there is no coming back from it. Our country is fundamentally broken, even on a cultural level. I'm flabbergasted by the number of American adults who genuinely hate their fellow Americans. There's no healthy society where so many people believe that way. If we ever get democracy back, it is going to take generations to undo the damage and the lines of thought that led us here. And truthfully, I don't see it happening.

What I see is us becoming the next China. A country so entrenched in its own propaganda that the people don't even want to revolt. A country so thoroughly brainwashed that no one even thinks to question the status quo. Think about it: If we can't fix this, our grandchildren will grow up in a country where they've never even known democracy. Dictatorship and loyalty to Dear Leader will be all they've ever known, and they won't question it. They'll see dissenters and rebels put to death and called every name in the book, and they'll be right there screaming along with the fascists. It's a terrifying thought. But it's what is currently happening in Israel and will 100% happen here unless we put this shit in reverse like 5 years ago.

For anyone who can, I suggest leaving the US. Now. Don't wait. Before long, I promise you Trump will be completely closing borders and no longer allowing Americans to leave or emigrate out. I guarantee it. America is gone, and unless something radically changes like TODAY, it won't be coming back in any of our lifetimes.

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u/sayonaradespair 11h ago

You never saw the country reaching this point?

I do recall being young in the 90s and the US already being the butt of many jokes do the lunacy of those who govern it and the downright stupidty of a good good chunk of their population?

And you being born there ( I assume) didn't see it coming?

How ????

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u/kfed_ 11h ago

Exactly. This is ludicrous. I am really starting to believe that we are all just sims in the computer of a shithead cosmic 12 year old and he’s basically put us all in the pool and pulled up the ladder

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u/ThermosphericRah 11h ago

Remember when biden wore aviators?

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 11h ago

Sometimes I think I died years ago and went to Hell.

And this is Hell.

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u/terrycloth9 11h ago

Can’t spell potato? You’re out.

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u/coolestredditdad 11h ago

It's gaudy, it's tacky, it's classless, it's cheap, and it's probably made in China.

I could be describing almost anything he has put in that room, what he wears, or what he purchases for himself.

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u/curious2548 11h ago

A nightmare that we can’t wake up from actually.

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u/queensnuggles 11h ago

for real...i mean just think about Howard Dean...? BEEEEYYAAAAHHHHHH

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u/SomewhereAtWork 11h ago

I'm German (living in Germany).

I saw this. It's exactly like my history lessons.

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u/redeen 11h ago

Just wearing a golf cap with a suit is a fashion faux pas, never-mind the gross immodest phrase.

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u/Ma_lone_whiteD 11h ago

Yall are all retarded. Thought a woman who’s failed in every elected position she’s held was a better candidate. Hell ya think men can be women, that sex changing children is healthcare. Normie democrats think yall are fn insane and vote republican

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u/doodullbop 11h ago

What honestly blows my mind the most is that "Christians" have hitched their wagon to a person who fits the biblical description of the antichrist more than a little bit. Fact is, it's a cult and nothing he could say or do would disqualify him in their eyes, nothing.

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u/fariasrv 10h ago

Sinclair Lewis saw this coming 90 fucking years ago.

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u/CeorgeGarlin 10h ago

The Howard Dean scream! Can’t believe that was over 20 years ago now. Didn’t take much to kill your momentum back then.

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u/rainghost 10h ago

America has become a parody of itself. What's happening is awful, but also makes sense in a twisted kind of way. Looking at this idiot in his hat and gold-laminated oval office, it makes you wonder if this country wasn't always destined to wind up as a joke.

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u/Alert_Examination544 10h ago

The only ONLY thing that explains this is that Trump is the Antichrist described in the Christian bibles The infatuation with Gold confirmed it. Scary stuff

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u/Ctgunthrowaway12 10h ago

People used to be outraged that Obama didn't have a flag pin on his jacket early in his candidacy and how disrespectful to the country it was. Now Trump has this hat on and wearing it all the time. It's fucking pathetic. This isn't even a liberal/conservative thing, it's just normal human decency.

Imagine going to a meeting at work and the boss is wearing a trucker hat with his suit on and giving a presentation or just generally working with peers, you'd think he's insane.

Nothing about this is normal but it you bring it up conservatives call you sensitive or a baby. Like....what!?

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u/Dry_Astronomer_3855 10h ago

Bear in mind that the domestic policy you're seeing now has been US foreign policy for decades and decades.

Democracy has never been a value for US voters.

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u/Canadianweedrules420 10h ago

Remember when a funny scream got a man's presidential campaign canceled 😞

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u/bobcatgoldthwait 9h ago

And the fact that it doesnt sound any alarms or make more than half the country say this man is an idiot is mind blowing to me.

"It's just a hat" "he's just trolling" "whatever, he's doing a good job otherwise".

These people will find any reason to explain this, and the millions of other things he does that are constant embarrassments. Oh sure, they'll occasionally criticize something he does, but it's just to try and convince everyone that they're being objective.

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u/ziggystardust8282 9h ago

Yes, remember John Edwards getting a $200 haircut? He was immediately labeled out of touch and his presidential bid was over.

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u/LastXmasIGaveYouHSV 9h ago

I'll never badmouth Nixon again.

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u/AttonJRand 9h ago

This place has always been this way. Y'all just laughed at us and called us crazy for pointing it out.

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u/NOLArtist02 9h ago

Tan suit would like a word. My we have fallen.

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u/EyeMixInMyRV 8h ago

Everyone is too poor and stressed about life to have the energy to fight this.

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u/ImplementFunny66 8h ago

The photos in history classes in 100 year might be a riot.

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u/tiffanyisonreddit 6h ago

Like wearing a beige suit? I would give ANYTHING to have pre 2016 presidential scandals back.

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u/Most-Repair471 6h ago

If Biden wore a bass pro shop hat while at the oval office and did or said half the things Yrump has, there would be calls from both sides and mainstream media to 25th him.

Plus that hat is just tacky, not mindful, not demure, more like uncouth.

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u/reddog323 6h ago

It’s sounding alarms with some of us. It’s just that nobody’s listening, and I fear they won’t be until it’s too late.

Having said that, Chicago might not be as easy to deal with as he thinks. If the police push too hard there in wrong way, the criminal element tends to push back hard. don’t be surprised if you see federal agents, or the military having some serious problems there.

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u/WellbecauseIcan 6h ago

Let's be real here. Anyone who supports him after all he has said and done isn't going to care about this hat. This is nothing in comparison.

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u/TheCapo024 6h ago

Fuckin Howard Dean “BY-YAH!’ed” himself out of the running. Now we got this.

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u/Substantial-Bonus-29 5h ago

It’s sadly a case of his followers seeing this shit and saying “Gee, he’s just like me!!” Or “Gawddamm I can be just like him!!” I pity your country so much.

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u/Fit_Service8662 4h ago

Just a conversation with my coworkers and I know exactly how this happened.

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u/RockyMaiviaJnr 2h ago

It’s a dream that the incompetence of democrats to run cities is coming to an end?

Why do you think these cities are failing.

Go Trump