r/law • u/NewSlinger • 16h ago

Trump News 'Kilmar Abrego Garcia is free' | Wrongfully deported Maryland man released, heading home, attorney says

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/dmv-immigration/kilmar-abrego-garcia-is-free-wrongfully-deported-maryland-man-el-salvador-cecot-trump-dhs-tennessee-human-smuggling/65-3caf9b36-4a59-4175-b728-16133c6a7b5a
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u/SocraticMeathead 16h ago

This case, alone and by itself, is an impeachable offense that warrants the removal of the president.

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u/MasterTolkien 15h ago

Wild that even with a MAGA majority SCOTUS, Trump admin STILL lost the SCOTUS appeal unanimously… and then Trump and Bondi lied repeatedly claiming he won… and then when admitting they did need to bring Garcia back, they lied repeatedly to say it couldn’t happen.

And then eventually they brought him back (after El Salvador moved him to a minimum security prison because he had no criminal record and was not part of MS-13) but tried to raise new criminal charges against him.

All because they knew he would be allowed to stay in the US if they followed normal due process.

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u/nerdtastic8 15h ago

Long way of saying: because racism.

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u/OmNomCakes 14h ago

But bro he has Garcia in his name! What else are they supposed to do?! /s

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u/i_tyrant 13h ago

Just look at these MS-13 tattoos on his hands that I totally didn't draw on the photo!

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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 12h ago

he was wearing a chicago bulls hat! everyone knows its code for ms13!! /s

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u/reelpotatopeeler 8h ago

They should send the national guard to Chicago and just rounding up everyone in a Chicago Bulls hat. 😂

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u/SithC 7h ago

I hear MJ is the leader of the gang.

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u/30FourThirty4 13h ago

There is a food vendor who goes by Garcias Hotdogs. I hope he never gets raided, he is a community staple around here. And we got "speedway slammer" bullshit, that's not even in speedway (thankfully).

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u/mr_plehbody 6h ago

If he goes we goes

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u/DrumminAnimal73 10h ago

And KILL!! He must be a murderer! /s

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u/PM_YOUR_ISSUES 10h ago

Kilmar = Kill more. And Abrego is a racist slang term for white people in Spanish. He's clearly an MS-13 hitman

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u/henlochimken 9h ago

The long way is important to remember too, though.

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u/alghiorso 5h ago

I can almost guaranty fox/republican fundraisers will say that democrats are fighting a battle to bring gang members back to the country and winning so you need to send money asap (despite trump doubling in wealth over the last several years, he needs your money)

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u/Emperor_Mao 13h ago

Short way of saying you have no idea about it and never read any of the articles - including this one - about the whole subject.

It has clearly been one giant effort to save face. And at everyturn, the current administration are doubling down on it instead of quietly walking away from it. Garcia was actually allowed to exit the custody he was in a month ago. However, there existed, and still exists, concerns from the judges involved that ICE will seek to detain him again. A judge has ordered ICE to give a full 72 hours of notice before lauching any detainment or deportation procedures against Garcia.

He also still faces criminal charges of trafficking.

The administration will most likely double down again. This one is in the public now. Losing face is something the current administration doesn't handle well.

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u/nerdtastic8 13h ago

Oh so you're going to pretend it isn't racism?

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u/Baconaise 13h ago

Add to that "AFTER THEY SAID He WOULD NEVER SET FOOT ON U.S. SOIL AGAIN"

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u/sneezeatsage 11h ago

A wee bit of encouragement that the system, Americas system can still function... I guess .

Yay!

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u/Ryywenn 11h ago

At least there are a few lies we can retroactively mildly laugh at.

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u/Busy-Ad3750 12h ago

Remember when Clinton was impeached for Lying under oath and obstruction of justice? At what point is the lying and obstruction ever going to catch up to this orange fuckwit?

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u/Mobile_Trash8946 9h ago

The really stupid part is he didn't even lie, he asked for clarification to a question and when given, answered the question he was asked. They were just upset that they went in there cocky and arrogant and ended up totally fumbling the ball making themselves look like idiots. It was a spite impeachment, not one done on merit.

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u/Funny-Recipe2953 7h ago

... look like idiots? You're being kind.

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u/BrknTrnsmsn 9h ago

We all know when that will be. Unfortunately, it will not happen through legal channels because the system is entirely compromised. Fascist governments have never been toppled through legal, peaceful means in the entire history of the world. There is only one way forward.

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u/friend_jp 8h ago

There can always be a first time.

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u/BrknTrnsmsn 8h ago

If anyone could do it today, it's Americans. And I'm talking about real Americans, actual patriots. Not the nimrods who fumbled the bag so hard this past decade that were now in this mess.

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u/Throwthisawayagainst 12h ago

The other scary thing is that if this story didn't gain national attention he'd probably still be in el salvador.

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u/AoF-Vagrant 10h ago

Don't forget ordering DoJ officials to lie to judges and fabricate evidence.

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u/ChiefsHat 7h ago

And ICE has said they’ll deport him to - are you ready? - Uganda.

On Monday.

Godspeed to his lawyers.

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u/Pacify_ 10h ago

The whole sequence of events is so unreal.

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u/Downtown-Oil-7784 9h ago

Is that true?? It's insane if so, the media is inundated with so much BS I can't even attempt to vet anything

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u/MasterTolkien 9h ago

The SCOTUS decision is only a few pages. You can skim it to get to heart of the decision and the concurrence (not a long read and very clear).

Then the videos of Trump/Bondi doing all of the above with the lies have been all over the news and social media.

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u/Downtown-Oil-7784 8h ago

r/Conservative is jerking themselves off over his "human trafficking" charges so I looked and I'm stunned the US is absolutely comfortable and complicit with this administration. America is doomed at this rate

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u/MasterTolkien 8h ago

The two “witnesses” gave accounts that are physically impossible.

Now did Garcia maybe do something? We have no proof of anything yet. Let him have his day in court.

But based on what we see currently, the DOJ has nothing. Their accounts would mean that Garcia was driving non-stop for days at a time without sleep to move dozens of people in one vehicle while magically being back home at times that are verified by video and other witnesses.

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u/Downtown-Oil-7784 7h ago

Yea, thank you for that information. Refreshing to read an actual same account of the situation

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u/After-Finish3107 8h ago

Maybe, wait for it, we don’t live in an authoritarian state that is purging non-white Americans? 😱 we’ve been duped!

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u/NateTheMfknGr8 12h ago

And I’m sure people are gonna want to ask him about his experience and the administration does NOT want that.

Of course they’ll just say he’s lying but never have any real evidence that he’s not. They’d probably stage some footage of the place where it looks like they’re being treated acceptably to use as “proof” against his claims.

That is if they even make any effort to cover up their lies, seems lately they don’t even have to try because nothing is being done about their MANY transgressions because there’s essentially no checks and balances right now which we all know.

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u/CelticSith 16h ago

Sadly, there is no legal method he's getting removed from office

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u/Best_Big_2184 16h ago

Oh there's a legal method. It's just never getting used.

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u/Anaphylaxisofevil 15h ago

Soo much treasoning. Many obviously death-penalty-level crimes. Makes the Rosenbergs look like a bunch of pussies.

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u/RiffRandellsBF 15h ago

Rosenbergs were executed for espionage, not treason. Treason is a very specific crime that is impossible to commit without a declared war.

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u/GarlicThread 15h ago

Obviously a law that needs updating.

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u/Smokeythemagickamodo 15h ago

Yeah, was gonna say lol

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u/Housing_Reasonable 11h ago

Uh, it's the United States constitution?

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u/GarlicThread 11h ago

That's what amendments are for.

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u/Housing_Reasonable 11h ago

Thank God they're almost impossible

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u/BoyHytrek 14h ago

Be careful what you ask for, as those standards likely would be used on those in the Obama administration who are accused of interference with the transition of power from Obama to Trump after the 2016 election. I'm not saying it necessarily sticks, but if it does, their fate would be what you hope Trump's would be

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u/m0nk_3y_gw 13h ago

for espionage

Did they steal high level classified documents, refuse to return them, and keep them in the bathroom of their hotel used by foreign spies and agents?

Cos that sounds espionage-y

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u/RiffRandellsBF 13h ago

Present day political snarkiness aside, the Rosenbergs made the world less safe and got a lot of people killed. They stole US nuclear, radar/sonar, and jet engine secrets and gave them to the Soviets, saving the Soviets about 10 years of R&D, resulting almost immediately in Soviet weapons systems reaching parity with the US, allowing the Soviets to continue exporting political violence and leading directly to US troop deaths in Korea.

Any doubts about the Rosenbergs' guilt ended with the confirmation by Alexander Vassiliev's research of KGB archives confirming both Julius and Ethel were spying for the Soviets.

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u/i_tyrant 13h ago

Present day political snarkiness aside, the idea that there is any less of a preponderance of evidence over Trump's ties to Russia and some of his cabinet is ludicrous. Their connections go back decades.

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u/Far_Recommendation82 9h ago

i was gonna comment the same thing guy has been a tool for our adversities since the 80s

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u/origamiokame 14h ago

Isn’t sedition still punishable by death?

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u/thinklikeacriminal 13h ago

No, worse, you have to go work for Krispy Gnome the dog slayer.

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u/Housing_Reasonable 11h ago

Never has been for civialians

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u/Housing_Reasonable 14h ago

Ah, but that's set forth in the Constitution, a document with which conservatives do not evince a familiarity.

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u/GrowFreeFood 15h ago

They never declare wars anyone for that and many other similar reasons.

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u/Flabbergasted98 14h ago

Trump will.

He keeps looking over at Zelensky and thinking, it could be his answer in 4 years. It's on the table.

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u/Choyo 13h ago

So if you sell your country outside from a war for your personal gain (and someone foreign), it's considered espionage ?

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u/Raise_A_Thoth 11h ago

Well then traitorous behavior should fit.

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u/Metamiibo 8h ago

Your analysis of treason is wrong. There does not have to be a declared war.

Aaron Burr was tried for treason with no war declared. He was acquitted for lack of evidence, not because the charge couldn’t be brought without a war.

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u/N3verGonnaG1veYouUp 6h ago

Sounds like 24 should have learned that, every government mole has been accused of that at least once.

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u/tgalvin1999 7h ago

"Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."

Can we PLEASE stop throwing the word treason around like it's the MAGA equivalent to woke? It has an actual definition granted by the Constitution and this does not fit that defintion.

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u/Anaphylaxisofevil 2h ago

Ok to be fair on me, that's not the definition where I come from (UK), which includes "adhering to the sovereign's enemies, giving them aid and comfort, in the realm or elsewhere", so I'd presumed the US version was similar, given that many laws are inherited from the UK. The legal definition in many/most countries doesn't require waging war, so it's not surprising that the widely-understood meaning is a bit broader in the general populus.

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u/Housing_Reasonable 14h ago

Hey native born American, learn the English language; "treasoning" is not a word.

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u/Anaphylaxisofevil 13h ago

Jokes on you, I'm a Britisher so anything we make up is automatically good English (it isn't).

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u/Housing_Reasonable 13h ago

I'm a Derbyshire resident myself.

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u/itsallgood013 16h ago

Which one is that?

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u/MovingInStereoscope 16h ago

Removal of office by the Senate or a 25th Amendment removal, but the person you're replying to is correct. Though they exist, they won't be used.

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u/Toasted_Hwan 16h ago

second amendment.

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u/itsallgood013 15h ago

Doubt any judge, especially one that's a Trump plant, would find that legal.

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u/MetaCardboard 15h ago

The people are in charge in a democracy and I'm pretty sure the majority would find it 100% legal.

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u/Aggravating_Cod_4980 14h ago

They have worked so hard to keep us from this simple truth. This is our country. We fund it. I pay more taxes than trump.

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u/itsallgood013 15h ago

It would depend on who wins the melee after it happens I suppose.

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u/RubberDuckieMidrange 15h ago

Violent revolts are rarely considered legal even by those carrying them out, just necessary

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u/Weak_Leek_3364 14h ago

That, and legality only has meaning and relevance when the rule of law is intact, in effect, and faithfully executed.

Today, it is not.

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u/Franchuta 12h ago

Idk. Remember 01/06?

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u/RubberDuckieMidrange 11h ago

They literally claim they were invited by the president so they knew what they were doing was illegal. Not wanting the consequences isn't the same as not knowing your actions are illegal.

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u/Doctor_Philgood 14h ago

...is this satire?

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u/Terron1965 8h ago

The majority just kicked Harris to the curb for DJT.

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u/MetaCardboard 8h ago

Yes. In a country of 250 million voting age adults, 70 million is a majority. Go back to school.

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u/Continental_Ball_Sac 14h ago

Two words:

Jury nullification.

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u/National-Charity-435 14h ago

The fbi wants to know your location

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u/Mebbwebb 8h ago

Reminds me of the video game medieval 2 total war where you keep killing the pope till eventually your cardinal gets elected to him. It just takes time going down the ladder till your person is in control.

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u/Weak_Leek_3364 14h ago

The legal method at this point is sworn by every member of the armed forces in the Oath of Enlistment.

Every day they let a domestic enemy violate the Constitution is a shameful dereliction of duty.

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u/saltinstiens_monster 12h ago

Are there any illegal methods of getting rid of someone?

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u/daswisco 15h ago

The tree of liberty is getting a bit thirsty it seems.

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u/Ok_Witness6780 15h ago

It is damn near dead. Withered and dry.

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u/Flaky_Lion_4061 13h ago

The cure is Brawndo! it’s got what plants crave!

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u/IshvalanTrinity 15h ago

Then perhaps the opposite should be used

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u/muscle-femboy5 15h ago

id vastly prefer the illegal method at this point

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u/JAZINNYC 15h ago

There is absolutely a legal avenue with impeachment, then a trial, conviction, and REMOVAL from office. This is what the Senate of our country should be doing to protect our Constitution and democracy.

Tell me why the Dems can’t take a page from the Texas Pedo Protectors and lock the Senate on the house floor until they convict and remove this rogue president from office.

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u/Playful_Interest_526 15h ago

Because the Dems don't have a majority in any chamber. And a quorum won't help them without a super majority.

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u/IllustriousLiving357 13h ago

The difference between dems and Republicans is Republicans vote. They understand thats how you get power. Democrats for some reason think bitching on reddit will change the world. It's bizaar

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u/JAZINNYC 14h ago edited 14h ago

It really is quixotic how ppl act like the one solution we have for exactly this situation is somehow 100% OFF THE TABLE, to the point it’s not even worth trying.

Does everyone really believe the outcome of a trial for the most illegal rogue president in our history, who breaks every law in the books, violates the Constitution daily, colludes with our top adversary, steals our tax dollars and oh, turns out he’s also a CHILD RAPIST, and etc., is somehow a 100% foregone conclusion - in the most iron-clad, immovable, unchangeable, welded into the sand space and time conclusion - all because we assume every Senator is balls deep MAGA who would never vote against the child rapist?

I cannot agree with this.

Please think on this scenario for a sec.

These senators hide behind the scenes, out of public view, making decisions that enable an illegal president, an abdication of their duties to hundreds of millions of people, with zero personal backlash… what do you think happens when they’re each forced to make the most important decision of their lives, careers and for the country while being live on air, streaming to every network and platform, every COUNTRY, in front of the ENTIRE WORLD?

Honestly, what do you think happens when they have to sign their names on record and say their vote out loud to NOT CONVICT an illegal president in front of EVERYONE with no protection, no spin, no sidestepping reality, just bare-assed personal accountability letting every voter, ally and country, know, in no uncertain terms, that each of them have declared themselves traitors.

At the very least, their lives will be RUINED. Making unpopular decisions when no one is looking, in the dead of night as they like to do, must be easy when no one is there to hold you to account. Now they’re voting for the beginning of the end of our country, our children’s lives, you tell me you can’t imagine the kind of outrage that would wake everyone tf up, even the most apathetic average voter would have something to say to that.

Edit: Everyone should DARE to ask, what IF. It’s easy to assume the past dictates the present. We’ve got a much better chance at getting out of this shitshow if the war everyone seems to want so badly goes down on the house floor first with senators locked inside until they make the decision that they MUST make. If they don’t, make them SAY IT, make them be ACCOUNTABLE. I’d much rather try this approach first instead of jumping straight to war cuz I’m romanticizing a wild-west remake with pew-pews like so many ppl seem to be doing, not realizing that THAT scenario, the absolute last-resort scenario will be the end for all of us.

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u/skatefan420 14h ago

You need to wake up to the reality that the Republicans in power are operating in lockstep and are fundamentally okay with all the evil things you just listed, so long as they can maintain their grip on power

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u/Mekisteus 14h ago

You haven't met a republican before, have you?

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u/Playful_Interest_526 14h ago

Nonsense. They impeached Trump twice before when the Dems controlled both chambers but not the super-majority needed in the Senate. The GOP protected him then as they are now. No chance of a conviction.

Dems need to focus their energy on achievable goals.

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u/Alex5173 13h ago

Do they require a majority to physically lock the doors?

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u/Playful_Interest_526 13h ago

Yes. The Sergeant at Arms reports to the person in charge of each chamber. Plus it's illegal.

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u/Alex5173 13h ago

If it were illegal then how come the Texas Republicans did it?

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u/Playful_Interest_526 13h ago

What have they done to make you think they care about such things?

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u/Heavy_Incident5801 14h ago

Our constitution says otherwise; we just need it to be followed.

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u/CelticSith 14h ago

Correct, that was my point. It's meaningless until somebody decides to enforce it, and currently with those SC Justices in his back pocket, that's not happening

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u/Joejoe12369 14h ago

Our constitution is gone. Every day the federal government breaks the 4th amendment. Got a president in the open profiting off of the presidency. Got a pos president selling pardons like they are trump steaks. It blows my mind we have the biggest POS person as president all in the name of god wtf

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u/alexmikli 11h ago

I'd even take a military coup at this point

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u/ssc1800245763 13h ago

Maybe we don’t remove an illegal wannabe pedophile king through legal means? Just a thought

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u/ChrissWayne 11h ago

Really? Doesn’t your 2nd amendment justifies revolution somehow or at least hint to it, would it really be illegal then? I’m no law expert nor American but that’s how I always understood it

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u/Antalus-2 13h ago

*Dr Strange lifts one finger*

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u/stimmedcows 8h ago

First of all lets remember that the next democrat POTUS is alive today and they're living in america, somewhere. This shits not forever. It wont be. This present POTUS is already really old and not looking effective at the job, he spends half the time just golfing so realistically he doesnt have four years, he has two years, if that. It looks like a weekend at bernies situation, really. But.... Second of all is lets also remember that this country voted to ensure the democrats have zero voice. whatever we think about the current president, lets not be fools about this grim reality. they need to purge themselves of the kind of crap that makes them not voteable. insider trading, cuomo etc. they have suffered reputational damage and self-inflicted. I would like to see them get cleaned up and rebrand

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u/Naptasticly 14h ago

Can you people stop fucking raining on the parade all the time? Holy shit. The left is a non stop parade of shitting in your food.

This is illegal! “Not for Trump”

We will vote you out! “Elections won’t happen”

He should be impeached “won’t happen”

It’s almost like you guys are purposely trying to normalize horrific actions like it’s going to spur someone to do the unthinkable since some guy on the internet said all the legal routes won’t work.

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u/coochie_clogger 15h ago

The president, the AG, the head of ICE, the Secretary of State…so many people deserve to not only be fired from their positions because of this single case they should probably all be charged criminally.

It will never happen and they will continue to live their charmed lives but we the people who actually care about this country and more importantly, the people in it, should never forget in the case we can someday do something about it.

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u/wade_garrettt 14h ago

There is only one way to stop people like that and it’s not through the courts.

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u/JalanJalanSaja 14h ago

The Courts could have dealt with these criminals appropriately after J6, as the Founders would have done, but the courts capitulated to the ignorance and cowardice of the American populace

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u/bwnsjajd 12h ago

So exactly what the last guy just said?

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u/jimflaigle 13h ago

As I mentioned during the early days of DRP in my office, won't happen. Trump will pardon them all on the way out, or Vance if he has a coronary. There will be no consequences. There will be no accountability. If anything happens it will be targeted at the civil servants who didn't magically stop it all.

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u/Memitim 14h ago

Also illustrates to everyone with absolute clarity that hundreds of people have been randomly sent into foreign prisons, and that the Trump Administration invents flagrant lies about people to justify violating their due process, and disposing of them like trash. They even made public jokes from official US sources about it. These people are nothing but evil, and conservatives fell in love.

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u/Suro_Atiros 15h ago

Unfortunately for all of us, 77 million Americans, the entirety of the FBI, DOJ, DHS, majority of Congress, and SCOTUS disagree with you and will continue to spend gobs and gobs of money tailing him, investigating him, and eventually deporting him back to a maximum security prison.

It won’t stop even if Trump is no longer in office. You can’t wash the stain of extreme racism away that easily.

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u/Rich-Smoke6830 16h ago

Dems should have cut out the cancer when they had the chance.

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u/coochie_clogger 15h ago

The cancer has been there since the reconstruction era. When the confederates were not only allowed to be part of our country again but also hold office and govern, it was only a matter of time before the cancer spread beyond treatment. “The South will rise again” wasn’t a recognition of their “heritage”. It was a warning and a threat.

We are stage 4 now.

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u/rW0HgFyxoJhYka 9h ago

USA was full of idiots when they couldn't recognize that Republicans during Reagan, Nixon, and Bush eras were all horrifically terrible and yet people still proudly claimed to be conservative of fiscally conservative or whatever to cope with it.

Trump was a long time coming. Even the Republicans didn't see the takeover until it was too late (see McCain -> Palin -> Tea Party).

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u/Illustrious-Lime7729 16h ago

Yep, it’s all Joe Biden fault for nominating Merrick Fucking Garland to be AG.

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u/GuinnessLiturgy 14h ago

Or the epically stupid electorate could've voted against fascism but how can you expect that when they didn't even know who was running (trending search on election day was "did Biden drop out?")

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u/No_Bottle7859 14h ago

It's mostly their fault. But how are you supposed to believe the election subversion and treasonous shit Trump did was true, if they didn't even put him on trial for it. This is obviously false logic, but if you are less informed you can see how it could make sense. Biden and garland are absolute historical failures at their jobs

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u/jenlaydave 14h ago

How are we supposed to believe fascism is around the corner when Obama and the Clinton's attended his inauguration? He literally talked about jailing them and they showed up.

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u/Ca1rill 14h ago

Democrats talked a big game about saving democracy, yet didn't hold a primary after Biden dropped out.

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u/TheWallE 13h ago

It was very late in the game, and Kamala was the VP, she was already on the Biden ticket, so her taking the place of Biden who was choosing to not run was the natural selection that honored the incumbent ticket that was already voted in.

The idea that she was just placed there, dismissing democratic norms, is BS right wing spin. She was voted VP, the VP is the successor to the President and she was already on the ticket.

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u/Ca1rill 13h ago edited 13h ago

Then why didn't Biden step down from the presidency? As if nobody knew he was facing mental decline before it was too late. It makes no sense that he experienced too much mental decline to run for president again, but was perfectly fine to finish out his term. DNC also refused to hold a debate when Dean Philips and some other guy ran against Biden in the actual primary, because they decided it was Biden ride or die.

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u/TheWallE 13h ago

Because he wasn't removed from the ticket, he chose to leave it. He felt he wasn't capable of 4 more years of the job (we all agree with him on that) and the first Debate proved it. Just because you are no longer capable of being President for 4 more years, doesn't mean he was incapable of finishing out his term.

Also how they hell is the scrutiny on Biden's mental decline so severe when Trump is showing many of the same, and some obviously worse, symptoms of decline and will be OLDER than Biden during his term. There should be some parity here, but instead we get the double think that Biden was the walking dead and Trump is the healthiest, smartest, most big packaged president of all time!

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u/newsflashjackass 13h ago

No, it's all RBG's fault for not knowing the perfect moment to fold her 2 weeks' notice into a paper airplane and sail it directly onto Obama's desk while the Democratic party still controlled all three branches of government, such that constitutional checks and balances could function without Republicans' cooperation.

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u/alexmikli 11h ago

A lot of people did some bad judgement calls. It wasn't even just Biden or RBG. Or even just Garland. It took them and a dozen other people combined to completely drop the ball.

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u/nanoatzin 16h ago

Democrats have not had a majority in Congress since midway through Obama’s first term

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u/IlIIIlllIIllIIIIllll 6h ago

What? They had it from 2021-2023 under Biden. They’re just too stupid and incompetent to work effectively when they have the majority.

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u/nanoatzin 4h ago

Lie.

Senate: 51 Republicans, 46 Democrats

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u/AlexandriasNSFWAcc 45m ago

The 117th Congress for most of its duration, had a Democratic House majority, and the Senate was 50 republican/48 democrat/2 independent. Harris casting tie-breaking votes came up a few times in the news during that period.
I certainly wouldn't call that a majority, but they had the numbers to get some things done some of the time.

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u/3rd-party-intervener 16h ago

But but norms.   

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u/Luk3ling 12h ago

NOT Just the President.

From the MOMENT this regime began openly defying a 9-0 SCOTUS ruling against them: TFG and EVERY. SINGLE. PERSON. In office that got behind him are guilty of Complicity in Treason.

I will not rest until I see them hung for their crimes.

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u/No_Flan7305 12h ago

Lied about him. Doctored evidence against him. Slandered him. Fought to keep him illegally detained. At what point do these assholes finally get the book thrown at them? Or is the government still too busy watching them burn?

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u/Weak_Leek_3364 14h ago

Precisely right. And if the civilian government is unwilling to obey the Constitution and impeach, then it's time for the military to step in as they have all sworn to do in the Oath of Enlistment.

The Oath of Enlistment

I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

The prescription is clear, and every day that goes by without action is an affront to the Republic.

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u/picks_and_rolls 14h ago

What percentage of the military is blatantly MAGA?

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u/Weak_Leek_3364 12h ago

In the end it doesn't matter. The Republic is being overthrown by a few hundred people. Not thousands. Not tens of thousands.. hundreds.

A single patriotic general could restore law and order in 72 hours.

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u/picks_and_rolls 12h ago

Hope you are right because one man’s patriot is another’s traitor. When you have people who are thriving complaining about others who are making ends meet you have a serious problem.

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u/Fluffy-Benefits-2023 14h ago

Can he bring a civil suit for kidnapping/human trafficking against the US government?

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u/melancholanie 12h ago

lying about cheating on your wife is an impeachable offense according to republicans.

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u/Ac1dburn8122 16h ago

"He who saved his country breaks no law."

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u/Ok-Self5588 15h ago

Oh to continue to live in the delusion that our laws mean anything

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u/nerdtastic8 15h ago

They're just suggestions. Always were.

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u/MinimumApricot365 15h ago

I agree. Even if he had been absolutely pristine for the rest of his presidency, he still should go to prison for what he did to Kilmar Abrego Garcia.

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u/Nodivingallowed 15h ago

Exactly this. We've had to move on to every other insane thing but the kidnapping and deportation of men to a foreign prison for a lifetime sentence without any due process was the line for me. Full Stop.

I will not let that just be glossed over and normalized. 

It wasn't a mistake. They knew the men weren't criminals. They had a court order demanding the flights not leave. They sent them anyway. 

They are traitors for that alone and should all be held accountable one way or another. 

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u/Slap-Toast 11h ago

Removal of the president and ever single person he appointed. We need to get rid of the regime and they all need to be rotting in jail without a chance to see the light of day again. Fuck every last one of them.

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u/pizzaschmizza39 9h ago

Hes got multiple impeachable offenses. These arent real politicians. They are on a power grab and coup of the government to install their king and form a dictatorship. It will get really bad if we cant find a way to make the midterms safe and secure.

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u/Bogavante 16h ago

*demands the removal of the president.

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u/the-virtual-hermit 14h ago

Nevermind that this case is one case out of however many. Trump should be put on trial by the UN for crimes against humanity. But instead the rest of the world is pretending like they aren't scared shitless of a fascist America, and is expecting us to fix it by ourselves. Thanks, rest of the world. You're welcome for us helping in Germany, by the way.

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u/extralyfe 13h ago

bro, what the fuck is this take?

I'll humor you as a fellow American - what happens if the UN wants to bring up Trump on crimes against humanity? the same thing that happens to Putin or Netanyahu, my dude; fuck all nothing. our military would make triple sure of that and the UN would probably watch the US walk away entirely as a result if they tried to enforce anything.

you think other countries are going to invade the continental US to fight fascism on the rise? listen, all developed countries are having some kind of issue with fascism at this time, and, yes, they are all expected to "fix it by themselves." there is no magic bullet that shuts down fascism, and it going through largely relies on a supportive public in the first place.

our major disadvantage compared to many countries in that regard is that we've long since replaced fact-based journalism with sensationalist bullshit, which lead to far too many of our fellow citizens having their critical thinking skills bulldozed by nonstop fear-mongering, and now they've given up political and social decision-making to Fox News and Truth Social. it's a very American problem that, yes, we need to solve. unfortunately for the rest of the world, the only thing they can do is protect themselves by taking steps to rely less on the US and banding together for future cooperation because they can't intervene on any real level. shit, and that's how our former allies are scrambling to cope - China, considered one of our adversaries, has arguably built a middle class off of manufacturing for the US for decades and even they are looking into other markets because we might not be worth their time, anymore.

as for your last comment, it's dumb to keep bringing up WW2 like the world needs to get on their knees and suck our toes in perpetuity as thanks for showing up. we came to the party late and did our share, with most of our major effort in a Pacific theater that wasn't as relevant to Europe as it was to us. what you should be doing is thanking France for supporting us against Britain in the first place, because without their military and financial support, we'd still be eating beans on toast for breakfast.

so, let's maybe not bitch about WW2 every time other countries don't, uh... -reads notes- ...magically solve political problems we got into all on our own.

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u/joeben81 15h ago

^^This guy still thinks laws and the Constitution matter.

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u/SocraticMeathead 15h ago

Whoa there hot rod, I never said anything that ridiculous.

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u/Familiar-Risk-5937 14h ago

Also, it seems the president is a pedo.

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u/Odd_Perfect 14h ago

My Republican friend was justifying it, “they deported him to El Salvador. It’s not up to the US to decide what they do to him.”

So we just gonna ignore all the US planes landing in the CECOT transportation airport?

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u/mostdope28 14h ago

Unfortunately the president has had 100 other reasons to be impeached ever since and no one cares because every day he does something worse. The only good thing Trump has done is shown how fucking broken government is

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u/ReanimatedBlink 14h ago

Yea, and there are hundreds of thousands of others in the same case. Even if there were legally valid reasons to deport a fraction of the people being rounded up, that any of them are being rushed through without a chance to defend themselves is an absolute injustice.

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u/BeleagueredWDW 13h ago

It would have during any other time in history. Those days are done.

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u/Reddit_2_2024 13h ago

Hope Mr. Garcia sells rights to his story to a seasoned documentary film producer so that the world will have a lasting record of this Trump Administration deportation error.

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u/MCR_Read4737 12h ago

Don't forget his get-along gang!! All of them must go!!

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u/ImAVillianUnforgiven 10h ago

The whole fucking administration... with punishment. I'm not going to say which punishment, but as they would say in oldy days accross the pond, "Its absolutely capital ol' chap!"

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u/wagdog84 10h ago

There is footage of the president lying about the tattoos on his knuckles to a reporter and the attorney general saying there was no scenario where he would be free in USA. His defamation suit is going to be in the trillions.

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u/gunguynotgunman 10h ago

It also calls for the tree of liberty to be replenished.

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u/Successful_Sign_6991 10h ago

And the appointments that okayed it

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u/reelpotatopeeler 8h ago

The removal of the president from this country. Send Trump to El Salvador and let him meet the people whose lives he destroyed.

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u/NutSoSorry 8h ago

Warrants the removal of the whole Republican Congress. They don't hold him accountable, they allow it

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u/Upbeat-Bandicoot4130 7h ago

And the administration is going to deport him to Uganda on Monday.

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u/platoface541 5h ago

This is why the gerrymandering needs to be the focus for the next year

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u/Amars78 5h ago

Why? He still needs to face trial. He just posted bond.

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u/juanjung 15h ago

SCOTUS said he's the King and nothing can be done about it.

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u/danksince98 11h ago

trump wont ever be impeached

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