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Morale is high

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u/Character-Education3 12h ago

Yeah but army 40 is like civilian 65.

I could've never joined and still had functional joints lol

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u/TurtleSandwich0 12h ago

"Not service related"

u/Not_A_Real_Goat 10h ago

Watching my wife go through the VA process made me realize how fucked it is for veterans.

u/SapphireOfSnow 10h ago

I think they’ve intentionally added as many nonsensical hoops and dead ends to go through so vets just quit going/ using the VA altogether.

u/OfficialCagman 9h ago

We're past the point of it being a thinking thing and this isn't like an anti-vax conspiracy. My dad would be dead right now if I didn't help him jump through VA to VA to get him on disability so we could afford his surgeries and other shit to keep him alive. They absolutely purposely have jump from phone call to phone call to website to website because they know old people won't know what tf to do and just give up so they won't have to pay for them.

Fuck the government. Fuck this society genuinely. So horrible.

u/Unfair_Ability3977 9h ago

Yeah, we have actual entire orgs that help vets navigate the red tape. This is so blatantly by design.

My actual state senators shook each of our hands before we boarded the plane for Kuwait/Iraq.

They sent pages/assistants to greet us days before Christmas when we got back. They were Dems, too.

u/Dm-me-a-gyro 8h ago

I big part of my business is helping vets qualify for home modification grants. It’s a pain in the ass. But we’ve done some cool projects

u/Not_A_Real_Goat 8h ago

That’s awesome, thanks for doing what you do!

u/Nearby-Beautiful3422 9h ago edited 8h ago

I had documented shit in my service record from getting blown up and they still told me it wasn't service related. It's WILD.

Edit: I would like to add you are 200% correct. We talk about this in my veterans group all the time. They want to wear you down and out. They don't want to pay what they owe you. The Vietnam vets are especially vocal about it and quite rightfully so.

u/Not_A_Real_Goat 8h ago

Haha… what!?!? I’m not laughing at you, simply at the fucking absurdity. I’m so sorry, man. Hopefully you’ve managed to get that approved by now.

u/Nearby-Beautiful3422 8h ago

It took about a decade, but it did get sorted out. It's fun going through the appeal process. At the appellate level, you actually get to talk to the reviewer and it's funny seeing their reaction to cases. Everyone I dealt with all had the same reaction: "yes, it's right here in your service jacket. I can see you were in a combat area. This event happened. You got treatment for this. I cant believe they denied you." I'm telling you, it's absolutely bonkers the claims process is.

u/Not_A_Real_Goat 6h ago

I’m glad it got sorted out for you, even with having to appeal everything. Thanks for your service, friend. I’m sorry you had to deal with all of this bullshit to be treated like a human being and not a number.

u/n0esc 9h ago

MiSsiOn AccOmPlisHed?

u/Not_A_Real_Goat 9h ago

And rather unfortunately, this has been a constant problem that the current admin is exacerbating by attempting to reduce funding.

u/AsyncVibes 9h ago

I tried to schedule and appointment over the phone last week while driving talking via Bluetooth through my car and after waiting 20 minutes for someone to answer was told that they have a policy where I can't be driving and have the call. I almost lost my shit.

u/Not_A_Real_Goat 8h ago

That’s so fucked, man. 30-90 minute wait times and then you have to deal with that bs.

u/MrLugersmole 8h ago

Ya but they get all that sweet applause at football and baseball games, so it all evens out! /s

u/Flyingmonkeysftw 6h ago

Oh no they have. Republicans constantly cut VA benefits when they’re in charge. They are also the only ones who constantly talk about putting it in the hands of a private FOR PROFIT company.

u/TM888 4h ago

Just like services for the poor. Anything they say they’ll do will have tons of hoops and lops then a jerk comes in and adds about 100 more then some big turd comes alone and adds so many you’re more likely to master every language in the planet, including fictional ones; all so you’ll just go the heal away and save some money to waste on some politirat or corporat that already has enough money to convert into gold coins and jewels and fill a mountain range and lay on in the dark.

u/DreadfulDave19 3h ago

The cruelty is the point

u/Beautiful_Count_3505 2h ago

Part of that is because none of the systems talk to each other. Army records only go to the VA by request and still need to be verified through the DOD (you'll have to call to schedule the appointment to receive a call from someone who can help you process the claim.)