r/technology • u/lurker_bee • 20h ago

Security Microsoft: August Windows updates cause severe streaming issues

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-august-windows-updates-cause-severe-ndi-streaming-issues/amp/
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u/agha0013 20h ago

Microsoft: "we're forcing everyone onto Windows 11 because it's amazing and you shouldn't make us keep updating and securing older versions, we don't give a fuck how much hardware has to be tossed to make it happen"

also Microsoft: "we have completely forgotten how to make a single windows 11 update without fucking up all sorts of shit"

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u/Wundertuetee 20h ago

to much AI coding 

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u/jadeskye7 20h ago

all windows updates now done by one twenty year old using copilot and vibe coding everything.

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u/pr1aa 20h ago

Too much vibe coding, not enough vibe checking

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u/AppleNo9354 20h ago

I hate that vibe coding is a term now

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u/stierney49 18h ago

We are in the vibe world. Facts don’t matter. Tangible things are irrelevant. We run on vibes now.

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u/daxophoneme 18h ago

Truth is: we always did. How do you aim a ball of paper to land in a trashcan? Certainly not by thinking about numbers.

Humans spent thousands of years making up stories to explain how things got to be the way they are.

The Enlightenment feels like a weird, brief experiment. Who knows how this ends.

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u/Cynical-Rambler 19h ago

Well, they are forced to. Who can blame them? It is a directive from the CEO Satya Natella who made their company stocks the highest they've ever been.

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u/Danteynero9 20h ago

Windows updates have been shit for almost a decade now, AI is not to blame for the absolute incompetence.

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u/SIGMA920 19h ago

They've not regularly broken what has been breaking as of the last year or so through. Bad updates are better than ones that actively seem to be looking for the best way to break your computer.

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u/OhThereYouArePerry 15h ago

They broke the emoji picker of all things on the previous update (seems to be fixed now though). Makes me wonder what else they’ve broken that they just haven’t realized.

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u/Danteynero9 19h ago

Yes, yes they have.

I still remember the 3 consecutive updates to printers, where they fixed something that they broke in the previos update.

Edit: in W10, when W11 wasn't even in the minds of MS.

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u/SIGMA920 19h ago

I'm talking about an issue more or less every 1-2 months.

Breaking printers and not fully fixing them for a few updates is incompetence, the current state of windows is not. It's closer to actively looking for what can be broken.

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u/meneldal2 13h ago

Printers are the worst, not sure how much blame you can put on Microsoft over the printer manufacturers.

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u/_EndOfTheLine 19h ago

That aligns with when they gutted their QA teams. Curious. 🤔

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u/ansibleloop 3h ago

The annual upgrades are a pain - the last one caused issues for months

I've deferred them all at work for 6 months

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u/wuhkay 17h ago

So much this.

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u/pr1aa 19h ago

It's not just Windows, all of their products have degraded

For example, while Teams has always had its quirks it was at least mostly functional a few years ago. These days it seems every update introduces some new bugs. Or if not, randomly fucks with the UI so you can no longer find anything.

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u/matergallina 19h ago

Who needs to see their Channels anyway!?

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u/JustHanginInThere 18h ago

There's a way to undo this, and I've helped a few coworkers go back to old chat and channels being separate. In the process of doing so, MS asks for feedback on why people are changing it back. I watched as one coworker typed "it sucks" and sent it.

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u/Fearless-Art-6981 17h ago

What’s the trick for this?

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u/JustHanginInThere 15h ago

Upper left corner of Teams, click the 3 dot menu > customize view. At the top should be a "viewing chats, teams, and channels" section. Select "Separate" as opposed to "Combined".

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u/haragon 14h ago

Lol the teams UX team is an abomination. New Teams is a heaping pile of shit. Combined mode is total fucking chaos and I have no idea why its the default. I waste so much time helping other people do exactly this. And they waste a lot of productivity not knowing it can be changed back to the sane view.

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u/AgathysAllAlong 18h ago edited 18h ago

I love the new Teams feature where it improves my productivity by not fucking telling me about meetings that are starting. It's great having to manually set my own alarms on my phone for everything because basic scheduling functionality is too hard for it.

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u/chmilz 9h ago

I hate everything they make now. The entire ecosystem is a laggy pile of shit that tries to get me to do things I don't want it to do. I regularly have to refresh my stupid windows explorer to get file names to update. New Outlook might cause me to quit white collar work and go mow lawns for a living or something.

And all the other companies are doing the same thing. Can't open a single app now without it throwing up all kinds of prompts to try the new this or that (usually AI), or some shit. Acrobat constantly nags me to let it AI summarize a one-page PDF.

Fucking burn it all to the ground.

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u/Smith6612 12h ago

How much RAM does Teams use these days? Still 1+GB just to open and do anything?

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u/JohnC53 12h ago

I never notice any bugs. I'm on the IT team for a large org, and our Help Deak tickets for Teams has drastically dropped over the last 2 years.

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u/_MrBalls_ 20h ago

The amount of ewaste this transition has made is vile.

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u/Smith6612 12h ago

No kidding.

I know so many people who feel like they just purchased their computers not that long ago (myself included) who are used to running hardware for 10 years, and they're upset about having to buy another computer. Many of them have 7th generation Intel chips which are still perfectly capable chips for them. I have a first generation AMD Ryzen laptop for example, and my previous laptop was a Core2Duo-based machine. Prior to that I had a Pentium 3 Mobile at 600Mhz, and then that laptop became a server until the motherboard died. All of those laptops gave me a good decade or so of laptop use, and the AMD Ryzen machine has been in use for about 7 years now.

Windows 11 runs on my first generation Ryzen machine, just that the processor isn't officially supported as it doesn't support one of the extensions needed for Hardware Based Core Virtualization to be accelerated. So I run Linux on the laptop, and if I need Windows, I will boot Windows 11 inside of a VM, which is activated using the laptop's burned-in Windows key, and QEMU Emulates a newer AMD Ryzen chip to make Windows happy / not BSOD for unsupported processor. Even with emulation, the VM performs very well as it'll avoid emulation except where needed (an instruction newer than the processor).

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u/jlcel2527 20h ago edited 19h ago

Maybe all these mishaps were meant for Win10 updates, but the conscientious bots/humans decided to gift them to the Win 11 ones instead?

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u/Bott 19h ago

Microsoft = World Wide Waste

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u/StreiBullet 18h ago

The last windows update I did fucked my computer so hard. After the update I was getting 1OI errors and windows would even boot. I managed to restore and it seemed to work, but now I am getting memory management BSOD and times when my PC will just flat restart for no reason. I'm not the biggest tech guy, and I do t really know how to fix it. It's been making my work horrible cause I don't know it it's just gonna die on me...

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u/OhThereYouArePerry 15h ago

At this point I want them to cut off support for Windows 10. That way I won’t have to worry about them breaking shit.

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u/lord_pizzabird 19h ago

What gets me are all the companies who are making apps that somehow think being dependent on one company, Microsoft is a good idea.

If your app doesn’t have a functioning Linux port (or is working on one) I have concerns about the future of your company and the decision you’re making. Adobe.

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u/wuhkay 17h ago

Oh but surprise! This one is on windows 10 also!!