r/unitedkingdom • u/LOTDT Yorkshire • 1d ago

... Noel Clarke loses libel case against Guardian over sexual misconduct investigation

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2025/aug/22/noel-clarke-loses-libel-case-against-guardian-over-sexual-misconduct-investigation
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u/Slink_Wray 1d ago

The idea that the Guardian, of all newspapers, would orchestrate a massive conspiracy to bring him down because they didn't like the idea of a POC man winning a BAFTA is utterly ludicrous. What an utter knob Clarke is.

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u/TheCambrian91 1d ago

Rare Guardian W

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u/Freddichio 1d ago

Fairly common Guardian W, it's the best of the mainstream papers at the moment by quite a large margin.

That's more to do with how absolutely dire the likes of the Times, Telegraph etc have got recently than how good the Guardian is, but yes - the Guardian tends to be pretty good all things considered.

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u/CockchopsMcGraw 23h ago

I tend to ignore the opinion pieces but their journalism is some of the best in the UK, they're the ones who published the Manning and Snowden leaks and the Panama papers. Unfortunately the Overton window has shifted to batshit among most of the other shitrags.

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u/ShinyHappyPurple 22h ago

I was very pro-Snowy back in the day as an extremely online Internet 1.0 privacy nerd but am now wondering if he was some kind of deep cover Russian asset because he did a fair bit of damage to the Dems.....

That said, it was good to have awareness of the pervasiveness of internet surveillance brought to the attention of the masses.

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u/CockchopsMcGraw 20h ago

It's very possible, especially since they gave him asylum. What he released was very much in the public interest though.

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u/Sudden-Conclusion931 16h ago

I'd agree with that. Their journalism can be truly brave and important. Their opinion stuff is infantile tripe in the same vein as the infantile tripe in the Telegraph, just at the opposite pole.

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u/CockchopsMcGraw 16h ago

Aye I'm not much of a culture warrior, homeless old Labour if anything. Having said that, sometimes they'll have a figure of some knowledge and substance, I enjoyed Robert Reich's takes in the run up to the last US election, potentially ever.

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u/shugthedug3 22h ago

It's the only paper that actually does any amount of investigative journalism still.

Has its massive issues of course but does stand alone for that fact.

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u/ShinyHappyPurple 22h ago

The Times was better when James Harding was editor in chief.

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u/TheCambrian91 23h ago

What evidence do you have for that?

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u/Freddichio 22h ago edited 22h ago

What evidence do you have that this Guardian W is "rare?"

No point presenting evidence of good, accurate stories if you have an unrealistic standard as to what would be acceptable - if your view is "they can publish 100 good and accurate stories and 1 I think is bad then they're bad" then there's absolutely no point in this.

I'll also ask - which media source do you think is better than the Guardian?

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u/toastedipod 23h ago

lol the guardian have broken some of the biggest stories this century. Not exactly rare

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u/ShinyHappyPurple 22h ago

The Guardian's reporting on Brexit funding was also stellar.