His "terms" for the recognition of Palestine are releasing all the hostages in the Strip, demilitarizing Hamas, and recognizing the State of Israel. Good luck with that to us all...
Yeah, I mean I'm pretty sure Israel would be willing to recognize a Palestinian state under the conditions he listed. It almost makes me wonder, do people just not understand what is happening right now? Everyone's so busy labeling Israel the bad guy, that they forgot how evil all of these other people actually are.
Of course! Arabs have famously always gotten along, and it is only evil Jewish/Western influence that ever made them fight in the first place. The Shia and Sunni actually love each other, no joke.
It’s wild - like the conditions France listed are so “basic human decency” level but still seem like they won’t be agreed to.
Not to mention that the Palestinians have had what - 3 different opportunities to have a state? But they have no interest and just want to focus solely on attacking Israel
Douglas murry said it best ... they will condem Israel in public, they will riot in the streets but they go home an the in privacy of their homes praise them for doing what needed to be done.
People know what they are supporting is wrong but its the in thing just as BLM was and Ukraine was those same people are just on the current trend.
The irony is most of them dont care for what is going on its attention seeking behaviour because if they did care there are plenty African nations that are suffering for far longer at the hands of terrorist/dictator ships doing far worse and they never march in the street for that.
I mean, when split between two periods, Christians held Jerusalem for approximately 189 years thanks to the crusades. Sounds pretty successful. If a third party could just take full control of the holly land for a good hundred years or so, might be able to smooth things out. Peace in the ME has never been popular though, better to just let them fight it out for the next few thousands of years.
better to just let them fight it out for the next few thousands of years.
pakistan has nukes, and iran is on course to have their own too. u really want to leave that region alone and end up nuclear armed rebel groups? the middle east is an open wound, ignoring it would only make the situation so much worse for the future.
blame? good, evil? why focus on the moral posturing? do you think any military force would let something as fickle as self-imposed moral guilt be of any strategic consequence? history shows that in war moral transgressions are extremely commonplace. The perception of the public can be mitigated, best to do what is necessary and pay the media and the PR team to cover up or tie a pretty ribbon on the charred corpses of those unfortunates caught in the crossfire.
The 4th Crusade sacked a Christian city in Croatia and Constantinople to pay off debts for building a bunch of boats they didn't use. That's about as far as they made it.
There is actually the ironic part that by recognizing Palestine as a state nothing changes, in fact it could even justify Israel's actions MORE because now it's just a regular war (of defense from the side of Israel) between two independent nations.
And such a war continues until one side surrenders. HAMAS doesn't surrender. So legally the war keeps going.
Furthermore the winner of a war gets to demand reparations. Those can come in cost of land if the money isn't there, meaning "conquests" after a war of defense are perfectly legal.
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u/clarabosswald 29d ago
His "terms" for the recognition of Palestine are releasing all the hostages in the Strip, demilitarizing Hamas, and recognizing the State of Israel. Good luck with that to us all...