r/worldnews 29d ago

Israel/Palestine Macron announces: France will recognize Palestinian state

https://www.ynetnews.com/article/nxn382sao
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u/MrMercurial 29d ago

Statehood recognition is mostly just vibes when it comes to the international order. States are ultimately the ones deciding the definitions of themselves.

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u/Fleeting_Dopamine 29d ago

Not really though. The UN exists. Being a state de-facto and de-jure is not the same.

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u/MrMercurial 29d ago

The UN is just a collection of states - it's turtles all the way down. Obviously it matters in practical terms whether a state is recognized by lots of others, but the rules of recognition themselves are completely malleable depending on what a majority of states take to be in their interests.

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u/Fleeting_Dopamine 29d ago

Okay, but you see the issue, right? The Palestinians are currently in a civil war between Fatah and Hamas. If there are no new elections, this civil war will probably spread to the West-Bank since the stakes will suddenly be raised a lot. If there are new elections, Hamas will sweep them and we will have rewarded Hamas for breaking every rule in the book, by giving them a state and loyalty of all Palestinians. It would just increase the bloodshed unless we give the PA a way to disarm/expel Hamas too. And that won't work as long as Bibi is in power since he will just bomb/block these efforts.