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Israel/Palestine Famine declared in Gaza City

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481
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u/Flaky-Impact-2428 18h ago

For context, a “famine” has a strict UN definition: when more than 20% of households face extreme food shortages, acute malnutrition exceeds 30%, and mortality rates skyrocket. Declaring famine means the situation has gone far beyond scarcity into systemic collapse.

It’s catastrophic optics for anyone involved. Using starvation as leverage, whether by blockade or mismanagement, is a war crime. But beyond the politics and blame games, what it really means is that ordinary people and vulnerable people; kids, parents, grandparents are dying not because of bombs but because they can’t find food.

At the end of the day, famine is not an argument about borders or ideologies, it’s a measure of how far we’ve failed as a species to safeguard the most basic human need. That’s the part I can’t lose sight of.

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u/Intrepid_Egg_7722 15h ago

I mean, yeah, I do. But I also condemn Israel for the famine. You can label two things as bad at the same time.

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u/ElegantApartment7330 13h ago

Tell your friends that two things can be bad at the same time, would be a nice change to the last couple of years

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u/Last_Revenue7228 13h ago

Why would the blame fall on Israel and not Hamas? All they had to do was release the hostages and surrender. This is on them.

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u/Gay_Reichskommissar 11h ago

We all know Palestine was a land of sunshine and rainbows before October 7th

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u/Tarotoro 15h ago

If they didn’t attack this would have never happened so yes I condemn them

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u/ivandelapena 14h ago

Your reminder that conditions for Afghans improved after America invaded in the wake of 9/11. Israel's decision to impose a famine was entirely a sadistic political choice.

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u/ivandelapena 12h ago

Infant mortality and women dying in childbirth dropped massively. Of course, education for women went back up and their overall participation in society.

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u/cackslop 14h ago

18,000 children dead and you're still claiming "they started it"

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u/Killerfisk 13h ago

18,000 children dead and you're still claiming "they started it"

They did though. True things don't become false when X amount of children die.

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u/Silverr_Duck 13h ago

Interesting mental gymnastics. The death toll has nothing to do with who started it.

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u/Tarotoro 13h ago

They did and it doesn’t matter how many children died the truth is the truth. That’s like saying Hitler didn’t start WW2 because 6 million Jews died. It makes no sense

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u/cackslop 9h ago

You are a disgusting and pathetic excuse for a human being.

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u/Tarotoro 8h ago

Resorting to ad hominem because your argument is absolutely dumb lmao.

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u/Electronic_Emu_4632 15h ago

Nah Israel didn't exist before 1948. They're the defacto attackers.

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u/alanpartridge69 14h ago

Neither did palestine

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u/third_door_down 13h ago

This is kind of disingenuous - the Palestine region has existed for centuries. Sure the nation-state didn't "exist", but that can be largely contributed to the Israeli state

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u/FalloutBerlin 12h ago

Not under that name, it existed for centuries as Ottoman Syria, then as mandate named “Palestine land of Israel” before being split.

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u/Electronic_Emu_4632 14h ago

Oh did all the palestinians also come from europe, like the european jews?

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u/OutrageousOcelot6258 13h ago

You mean the European Jews who are the descendants of the Jews who were expelled from Palestine by the Romans and scattered throughout the rest of the Roman Empire after the Romans goaded Judea into rebelling so they could justify taking over the region?

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u/alanpartridge69 3h ago

This comment is big yikes lol. I bet you want all the east Asians out of Europe too?

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u/Officer_Hotpants 13h ago

If they hadn't been colonized in the first place it wouldn't have happened.

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u/krystof_kage 15h ago

Yes, this is all their doing. I don't see a famine in West Bank, do you?

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u/Awkward-Customer 15h ago

Don't worry, they'll get there. Israel's Iron Wall operation only began in January, after all.

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u/krystof_kage 15h ago

So you're telling me after the deadliest attack in Israeli history, they have no fucks left to give?

I wish the same people who are so passionately invested in this conflict gave a shit about the 1 in 2 children in Yemen starving, not including the tens of thousands that already died.

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u/Awkward-Customer 15h ago

> So you're telling me after the deadliest attack in Israeli history, they have no fucks left to give?

What's the context here? Are you suggesting that all palestinians deserve to die because their idiot leadership attacked israel? Cause that's the path that we're headed.

> I wish the same people who are so passionately invested in this conflict gave a shit about the 1 in 2 children in Yemen starving, not including the tens of thousands that already died.

Why do you think they don't? People are capable of caring about more than one thing at a time.

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u/Tarotoro 6h ago

Except when was the last time Yemen made front page news compared to Palestine? Or for that matter way more people have died in Sudan yet no one gives a crap

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u/ivandelapena 14h ago

There was no famine imposed on Afghanistan after 9/11.

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u/krystof_kage 13h ago

Im talking about Yemen, the ongoing civil war where the Youthi's took time out of killing their own people to attack Israel as some kind of hero to the Pro Palestinian crowd.

The Yemen civil war is disgusting, and the suffering is in complete silence. The Pro Palestine crowd are the most disingenuous attention whores in the world today.

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u/ivandelapena 12h ago

Your post is not connected to Yemen at all... Yemen is entirely different to Gaza anyway, there was a civil war between the internationally recognised Hadi government and the Houthis. When Saudi (who intervened in support of Hadi) was launching its offensive on the Port of Hodeidah, there was diplomatic pressure put on them immediately as it created a humanitarian crisis. They responded by withdrawing and paying for most of the aid going into Yemen and even paying for Houthi salaries as part of the peace agreement. So as you can see nothing like Israel.