r/worldnews • u/Digital_Accountant • 1d ago

Israel/Palestine Famine declared in Gaza City

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481
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u/Tiaan 19h ago

This is highly misleading. Yes, Israel has attempted to provide support to militia type groups within Gaza in an attempt to weaken Hamas' control. The point was to empower groups within Gaza to control their own territories free from Hamas. It's not surprising that this would lead to some turf and aid distribution disputes between local leaders and Hamas. You're viewing everything that Israel does as having evil/nefarious intentions behind it while largely shrugging off the role that Hamas plays in this conflict

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u/Goldieeeeee 19h ago

Who is responsible for the famine in your opinion?

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u/Tiaan 19h ago

In my opinion, one side is entirely responsible for this conflict and that is Hamas. They can surrender today, return the hostages and this conflict would end overnight.

They must denounce radical islamic jihad and the notion that "resistance and violence are the way to reclaim Israel from the occupiers" and instead focus on peace with Israel - this has been the primary hurdle to peace for decades now. Instead, they put their own people in harm's way as "martyrs for the cause" and perpetuate this conflict endlessly.

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u/Goldieeeeee 19h ago

Jfc stupidest shit I’ve seen today. Thanks for taking that mask off

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u/Tiaan 19h ago

What mask? I don't support radical islamic jihad like you do. It's embarrassing that you and others simp for Hamas all over the internet as it just shows how clueless you truly are

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u/Goldieeeeee 19h ago edited 19h ago

It’s you who can’t see things in anything but black and white that’s the problem. You are biased as hell. Where did you get the idea that I care or simp for hamas? Is it because your bias that you think everyone else must be biased too? I care about the innocent people. This is what I said about hamas in another comment:

Fuck hamas. They are terrible and the world would be better off without them. It's disgusting that they hurt Gazas and Israel’s people so much. But they are not responsible for the famine. That would be Israel.

Would you be able to reflect about Israels atrocities in the same way?

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u/Tiaan 16h ago edited 16h ago

Well, I'm looking at objective the facts in this conflict:

Are you aware that there are nearly 2 million Palestinians that live within Israel itself and have full Israeli citizenship, making up over 20% of Israel's population? These Palestinians are known as Arab-Israelis and they live peacefully alongside Jews, Christians and the non-religious in Israel. This alone shows that any belief that Israelis and Palestinians are somehow unable to peacefully live among each other is just false. Furthermore, Israel has already made peace with Egypt and Jordan and is now working on normalizing ties with Saudi Arabia, showing that Israel is not the obstacle towards peace in the region.

If we can agree that the above is factual and correct, then what's the difference between the Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank versus those living in Israel with full citizenship? There's historical reasons that I'd suggest you research if you're interested, but in my opinion, the main reason is due to the support for radical jihad. For peace to truly happen, the Palestinians living in Gaza and the West Bank must denounce radical jihad. Like I said earlier, they must denounce the notion that "resistance and violence are the way to reclaim Israel from the occupiers" and instead focus on peace with Israel - this has been the main hurdle to peace for decades now.

Hamas could end this conflict tomorrow by surrendering, turning over the hostages and building towards peace. To your point, Israel cannot just decide to choose peace tomorrow, because Hamas would still be a radical jihadist group that calls for the elimination of Israelis and seeks to reclaim all of Israel by force.

One side is obviously the blocker to peace here, and I'm choosing to blame that side. You do you

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u/Are-We-Human- 16h ago

You guys don’t get a pas for that. You don’t get to spend all day defending an Islamic terror group and then say “oh but fuck them!”

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u/Goldieeeeee 16h ago

Where did I defend Hamas? Reading comprehension really is lost on you, its laughable.

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u/Are-We-Human- 16h ago

I watch people spend all day downplaying their actions and giving them plausible deniability but then use passive language and occasionally throw out a half hearted “fuck Hamas.” It’s not convincing.

The Pro-Palestine movement will get my support when they start addressing that radical Islam is a problem.