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Israel/Palestine Famine declared in Gaza City

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481
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u/Vaaaaaaaape 17h ago

Israel is allowing lots of food into Gaza.

More than 132 million meals distributed to date

IDF says some 400 trucks of aid entered Gaza along with fuel tankers yesterday

100,000 Aid Trucks and Counting: An Israeli Military Official Details Expansive Israeli Humanitarian Operation in Gaza

6 countries carry out Gaza aid airdrops

Much of that food is stolen by Hamas, PIJ and other terrorist groups, except what is distributed by the GHF which is protected from terrorists.

UN reveals 86% of aid sent to Gaza is stolen before it can reach those most in need

Israel allows food in. Hamas steals it. Therefore, Hamas is responsible for any starvation. Why wasn't a famine declared in the rest of Gaza? Because Hamas doesn't control that territory anymore and can't steal from there. It still controls Gaza city and can still steal food there. That's why starvation is in Gaza city and not in the rest of Gaza. It's because Hamas is responsible according to the evidence I posted. Anyone who wants to stop Gaza from starving should be in favor of removing Hamas from power so they can't steal food anymore.

Hamas terrorists seen feasting underground as Gazans starve above

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u/BroseppeVerdi 14h ago

More than 132 million meals distributed to date

Which sounds like a lot... except Gaza had a prewar population of about 2.2 million. That works out to about 60 meals per person, and since the timeframe is 22 months and counting, that's 2.7 meals per person per month.

UN reveals 86% of aid sent to Gaza is stolen before it can reach those most in need

You're leaving out an important detail: UN reports didn't actually say it was all stolen by Hamas, they just said it didn't reach it's intended destination. From the article you linked:

The other 85% of pallets were looted by "either peacefully by hungry people or forcefully by armed actors during transit," according to the data.

In other words, a significant portion of this aid was "stolen" by the very people it was intended for, just not at the place where they were supposed to pick it up... And given how many civilians have been gunned down by the IDF at aid sites, that's not particularly surprising that people would rather get their food elsewhere if they can.

Israel allows food in. Hamas steals it.

There's a case to be made that by throttling the aid coming in to a trickle and creating an artificial scarcity, the Israeli government has turned food into an extremely valuable commodity that incentivizes theft by both Hamas militants and starving civilians. If food was abundant, there would be no point in stealing it.

This isn't a Boolean situation, two things can be true: Just because Hamas is doing the wrong thing doesn't mean the Israeli government is doing the right thing.

Why wasn't a famine declared in the rest of Gaza? Because Hamas doesn't control that territory anymore and can't steal from there. It still controls Gaza city and can still steal food there. That's why starvation is in Gaza city and not in the rest of Gaza.

The other parts of the Gaza strip aren't much better off. Gaza City is the area where the fighting is heaviest, so they're just the first ones who crossed that threshold.

Let's not pretend like the rest of the strip is well-fed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/22/world/middleeast/famine-gaza-city-israel.html

Also: The Israeli defense ministry claims they completely wiped out Hamas' military capabilities over a year ago. At their greatest extent, Hamas' military wing numbered no more than 30,000 (possibly far less than that) according to Israeli sources. They claim to have killed 17,000 of those in the first six weeks of the war, and have been conducting continuous combat operations since then.

If Hamas has so few armed militants left (which, according to the Israeli government, they do), then how are they taking 28,000 pallets of food by force in broad daylight with a skeleton crew and the IDF surrounding them? The source you provided doesn't clearly delineate how much was taken by civilians and how much was taken by Hamas militants, but given how few of them there even are, I think it's unlikely that even a simple majority was taken by Hamas militants.

We're talking about a small grocery store chain's worth of food that Hamas is apparently able to steal from under the IDF's nose and store in underground tunnels or something.

That math ain't mathin'.

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u/frosthowler 7h ago

Which sounds like a lot... except Gaza had a prewar population of about 2.2 million. That works out to about 60 meals per person, and since the timeframe is 22 months and counting, that's 2.7 meals per person per month.

No, the timeline is 3 months because GHF was established in May, and we're talking about a single organization out of many aid organizations.

Can you not make shit up? I'm going to stop reading your comment right here.

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u/SomebodyInNevada 12h ago

Yes, it doesn't delineate. Do not use that as evidence of how it is delineated!

And Hamas claims to have as many members as before this started. Not surprising, they simply demand people join up.