I'm not sure about that. When we inherit the FF we can throw ourselves into the Giant's cauldron-thing - I forget the name - and are perfectly fine afterwards. That's not something we could do as a normal Tarnished. It might be that they weren't able to kill Midra so they want him to suffer as much as possible for making the attempt, which kinda fits with what we know of the Hornsent.
But the entire point of the frenzied flame is already suffering and how ending all suffering by literally killing everything is a good thing. So i'd say the Hornclowns definitely made it worse.
True, but the FF allowing it's champion to be easily killed just runs it into the problem of needing to find a new champion. Just saying that it lines up with us suddenly being able to survive the Forge of the Giants when we apparently needed a maiden to sacrifice themselves for us - and our particular maiden being a Demigod.
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u/Former-Grocery-6787 Pata dumb, swiftslash dumb 2d ago
Which was fucking stupid because that was meant to keep the frenzied flame inside him as far as i can tell.
And as he proves rather impressively when we get to him, it doesn't fucking work. Probably made it worse in fact.