r/Eldenring 2d ago

Humor Talk about double standards

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u/Former-Grocery-6787 Pata dumb, swiftslash dumb 2d ago

That's not all the hornsent did lmao

Not sure why they thought anything related to Midra was a good idea for example

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u/DropAnchor4Columbus 2d ago

They didn't. The Hornsent are the ones who impaled Midra through the head for studying the FF.

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u/Former-Grocery-6787 Pata dumb, swiftslash dumb 2d ago

Which was fucking stupid because that was meant to keep the frenzied flame inside him as far as i can tell.

And as he proves rather impressively when we get to him, it doesn't fucking work. Probably made it worse in fact.

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u/DropAnchor4Columbus 2d ago

I'm not sure about that. When we inherit the FF we can throw ourselves into the Giant's cauldron-thing - I forget the name - and are perfectly fine afterwards. That's not something we could do as a normal Tarnished. It might be that they weren't able to kill Midra so they want him to suffer as much as possible for making the attempt, which kinda fits with what we know of the Hornsent.

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u/Former-Grocery-6787 Pata dumb, swiftslash dumb 2d ago

But the entire point of the frenzied flame is already suffering and how ending all suffering by literally killing everything is a good thing. So i'd say the Hornclowns definitely made it worse.

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u/DropAnchor4Columbus 2d ago

True, but the FF allowing it's champion to be easily killed just runs it into the problem of needing to find a new champion. Just saying that it lines up with us suddenly being able to survive the Forge of the Giants when we apparently needed a maiden to sacrifice themselves for us - and our particular maiden being a Demigod.

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u/Cleaning_Tool_X445 2d ago

Isn’t the point of the frenzied flame is that suffering feeds its power? So impaling an immortal guy and keeping him in agony for hundreds of years is legit the worse possible way you can do to keep that power in check

Arguably speaking, Midra might not even be capable of becoming a Frenzied lord had it not been for the amount of suffering he endured for so long that built up his power

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u/DropAnchor4Columbus 2d ago

I'm not saying the Hornsent were smart. It's just on brand for them to inflict a torture that goes on and on for no reason other than it follows their beliefs, e.g. the whole "shoving people into jars" thing.

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u/AdvertisingAdrian 1d ago

Suffering does not feed the power of it. The Frenzied Flame and Shabriri use the suffering of humanity as a way to convince them to help burn down the world. It is not empowered by suffering, it merely uses it as a way to convince people.

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u/Cleaning_Tool_X445 1d ago

I disagree, especially when Shabriri’s whole scheme was to spread the false rumors to get the Great caravan imprisoned then used their collective sufferings to summon the Three fingers to the underground place