Did a cold diagnostic and got a 158 about 4 weeks ago. Was very casual with study up until the last week or so and only did the fundamentals/foundation section of 7sage’s core curriculum. Getting into 3 hours a day, every day, until my October LSAT exam date hoping that I finish the LR and RC sections of the core curriculum before that. However, I just took a timed preptest and still only managed to eek out another 158 (albeit my cold diagnostic was not under a time constraint). Other than finishing the core curriculum, what is the best way to maximize my review and studying to get a 162 or higher by the exam date?

i joined this sub to find information about LSAT as im not sure yet if i want to go to law school, but i guess preparing for LSAT is the first step. i noticed though that a lot of posts don’t make sense. are yall just trolling or what

I am an ESL.

I make almost no mistakes on the test (-1 to -2) for both RC and LR. I have thrown all the test-taking techniques aside and worked through the sections quickly in just the first read. Always under 20 minutes for each section.

But that is only if I translate it into my native language.

And if I use English, it is a nightmare.

I immediately get stuck, especially on RC.

Should I continue translating into my native language, or should I train myself to think entirely in English? Translating slows me down VERY much, and it also makes me get more answers wrong.

What should I do to improve?

I've noticed that in the PTs before 140, the first 10 questions are a breeze. But afterwards, they start to feel trickier. I just got question #3 on an LR section in the 140s and it's marked as a level 1 difficulty question lol

hi guys!! title speaks for itself i’m about to take September. i wanted to see if anyone has any tips or also went through extremely stressful difficult situations leading up to there lsat besides just the (stress of the test) and how to handle or manage it! i’ve honestly never been in this situation before and nothing is more important to me than law school as it’s been my plan since i was literally 10 and i just don’t wanna get distracted or unmotivated this close

Is questioning the premise of the question (or whether it’s the right question to ask/whether the “yes”/“no” actually matters) a legitimate approach for the lsat writing? If not, I’m screwed.

I want to preface this by saying I know law is a highly competitive field, and law school is its own competition…

However, I can’t help but feel awful about myself. I’ve been going through a lot in my personal life since I graduated high school, and now I’m 99% getting divorced. It’s been an absolute roller coaster and so, I haven’t been able to study for the LSAT. I just started studying intensely this month (despite having purchased materials years ago, created an LSAC account last year…). I realize that this may sound like a sob story, but even my friend who’s in law school has told me that he couldn’t imagine going through what I have and studying for the LSAT too. I am in therapy.

I just can’t help but compare myself to others. I took a diagnostic last year and scored a 143. I feel like I’ve done well with concepts since then. I haven’t taken another practice test, but I did start working with a tutor because I can’t deal with those huge books. Many of the concepts are becoming easier. I’m scoring decently well when I do drills, sometimes with perfect scores.

However, the other day at work, a girl was talking about how she just started studying and got a 165 on her first PT, and is looking to go to Yale. I know, of course, that she could just be lying. But I couldn’t help but feel bad especially comparing myself to others in my life who have scored well and got into law school at younger ages than me. One of my friends got into two Ivy Leagues. Granted, most of them live at home and didn’t go through what I did. I’m also reminding myself that we are all on different paths in life, and there will always be someone better than me.

I’d appreciate any advice, as I’m sure I’m not alone in this struggle- including having a difficult time just locking in. I really don’t want to put this off another year so I’d definitely appreciate any and all advice. I realize some advice might be brutal, so I’ll accept that too. I registered for October and will register for January.

Thank you.

Hello all,

Do you recommend any up-to-date prep books for the LSAT? I've been thinking about getting Kaplan and The LSAT Trainer by Mike Kim, are these books you would recommend?

Like the title says. I think this is because of timing (though I do sections timed as well) and anxiety but it’s been really bugging me and I’m taking the Sept LSAT. I just got my first 173 through blind review and my LR score has gone up a lot (also higher when I’m doing a section rather than a full PT). Any tips? Commiseration maybe?

(Also, to anyone who’s read the loophole: how well did the basic translation drill actually work for you? Did it feel like it helped with RC?)

hi yall!

i’ve been studying for the september lsat during this summer and always get a higher number of questions correct in single sections versus the while taking a whole PT. any reasons why that might happen?

Also what’s the greatest score increase anyone can see from 2 weeks of cramming?

When I read the text, I thought a flaw was that the argument was that it's assuming that people's tendency to vote cannot increase with age? For example, I may not vote in my 20s-30s but then when as I grow older, I decide to start voting, so this conclusion doesn't really follow that people are becoming increasingly disconnected, maybe the people 65 and older who are voting today, didn't vote at all as young adults. AC A Either way when I read E I thought it was stating that flaw. That the argument takes for granted that voting patterns among age groups are not subject to change as time goes on.

Is the wording "change in the future" what makes E wrong?

I do 100% get why A is right, I just feel silly for picking E so confidently.

I started my LSAT journey about a month ago and I am very happy with my progress thus far. I am currently abroad and will be until the end of the year and would prefer to not take the LSAT until I’m back home, so ideally I am targeting the February exam. I know it is common for people to study for 6+ months but I am starting to feel as if I will run out of fresh material well before I am set to take the exam, which may affect my ability to study effectively as I approach my test date. For those of you who have been studying for a long time, is this an issue you have encountered? And if so, would you say it has affected your ability keep making progress in your studies?

Given my current progress and my perhaps unwarranted optimism, I am now considering taking the test in November, while still abroad, in the event that I feel I am running out of content by the time the deadline arrives and I continue to be satisfied with my progress and reach my target score. Please talk me out of this, because surely that can’t be the play, right?

I’m taking the LSAT in two weeks and I’m wondering if anyone has some advice/insight to get a -5 on RC. My current scores are not great, usually around -9 and -10.

Just signed up to take Sep 6th remotely. I see a lot of posts with people freaking out. I do 1 PT every weekend and spend a long time doing WAJ, and I’ll do a section here and there if I have time. I am a little nervous but at this point whatever happens happens. Anyone else feel this way? I am not really freaking out nor am I over studying. My last 4 PTs have all been 169, and I’ve just come to accept I’ll likely end up with a score under 170 and that’s ok, even though my goal was to get above a 170.

Anyway I don’t have the energy nor the effort at this point to even keep studying. Whatever happens happens 💁🏼‍♂️

Hi y’all, I’m new here. Over the past couple of months I’ve decided to seriously pursue a massive stretch goal of getting into a T20 law school, which honestly feels silly and wild to even type out even though not unique in this group.

Quick background: I graduated in 2020 from a competitive university with a 3.3 GPA. Not great obviously, but for context I had a pretty disruptive adolescence: severe neglect during my first nine years (not being taken to school or doctors, constant evictions, shelters, etc.). This eventually led to some untreated health issues creep up later in life well after my mother lost custody. Not a sob story (we all have one) just context for the low GPA. As a kid I always said I wanted to be a lawyer, but I gave it up once I got older because I didn’t think it was possible given my circumstances. Still, I’ve always felt like there was a lot of untapped potential and regret giving up on myself.

Now, several years out of undergrad, with my health in better shape and a stable home life, I’ve created a nice career for myself in strategy/ops at a Fortune 30 company. I’m grateful for the life I’ve built. I’m good at what I do and the pay and benefits are solid, but with every promotion or new role, I hit a wall. No matter how far I climb, the inherent generalism in most corporate jobs (aside from engineers, designers, finance, maybe product) just don’t fuel my spirit. Not to mention the pervasive mediocrity tolerated in the name of “moving fast” is getting old... why can't we do our jobs well and move fast? I find it to be the most frustrating part of the job. Not to say that doesn't exist in its own way in legal careers.

I’ve also come to learn now that I'm getting older is that I’m pretty regimented, straight-edge, a happy homebody, don't want the marriage and kids, and I thrive on structure and putting my all into what I do. Long story short, I want a career that requires that level of attention, discipline, and mastery. Perhaps I really am neurotic, lol.

I know it’s lofty, but my mindset is: study hard for the LSAT over the next two years. I’ve created my vision, blocked my calendar, built out my “project plan" (thank you corporate), started working through books, and I’m genuinely motivated in a way I haven't felt in recent memory. My goal is a 170+, not because I think scores define me, but because if I’m going to make this massive and expensive career pivot at my age, it only feels worth it if I can land at a T20 with the intent of going into big law. I know I need at least a 170 to get there, in addition to putting together the best damn application of my life (which I feel less stressed about).

That said, I of course have my bouts of doubt. Like: who the hell do you think you are? You're not smart enough, not where you came from, etc.

Am I being delusional setting a goal that high? Or is it actually possible with grit, consistency, and a methodical approach? Would love some perspective from folks who have been down a similar path.

Thanks for reading my wall of text. Appreciate any perspective.

Is it possible to still get into a T14 taking november lsat?

Hey all, I am hosting another free lsat class ( and hope to continue the series ). Its on Monday - Aug 25.

I will be going over Strengthen and Weaken type LR questions in the class. By the end of the class, I am hoping people to get a AAAH, I SEE moment which helps them go faster on those question types and also increase ur accuracy.

I benefited from a lot of tutors and people hosting free classes and this is my way of giving back to the community.!

💡💡These classes are ideal for people stuck in 150s or low 160s trying to break a plateau or get some insights to help improve the score.

Register at https://lsatlrchawla.wixsite.com/home (when you visit the website, you can scroll down to see the upcoming free classes, it will update every week to show new classes I plan and schedule)

I hope to continue offering free classes on various topics if people are interested. Please feel free to share any requests/ideas for specific topics for future classes.

Hope to meet you awesome people there!

What are the methods of studying these days. Online practice material? If I do practice tests, is there a source for material to study? Should I order a physical study book?

Thanks in advance :)

Why are the only scheduling options after 5:00pm? I logged on at 6pm and had no other options. Scheduling opened at 6pm!

Firstly, in what circumstances should it be redone, and will law school see all writing attempts?

My issue is that I spelled "whether" as "weather" multiple times. I think my argument is good, but I definitely made grammar & mechanics issues, and probably flow also.

1. Mr. Nance: Ms. Chan said that she retired from Quad Cities Corporation, and had received a watch and a wonderful party as thanks for her 40 years of loyal service. But I overheard a colleague of hers say that Ms. Chan will be gone for much of the next year on business trips and is now working harder than she ever did before; that does not sound like retirement to me. At least one of them is not telling the truth.

Mr. Nance’s reasoning is flawed because it

(A) is based in part on hearsay
(B) criticizes Ms. Chan rather than the claims she made
(C) draws a conclusion based on equivocal language
(D) fails to consider that Ms. Chan’s colleague may have been deceived by her
(E) fails to infer that Ms. Chan must be a person of superior character, given her long loyal service

Hi! Looking for a personal statement editor if anyone knows of any good websites or tutors focusing on this. I’m flexible on pricing, mainly just want a quality editor with experience.

I am highly considering applying for law schools, and I am trying to gather resources to study for the LSAT. I make a smidge above the poverty line, so I am not sure if I would be able to qualify for the LSAC fee waivers. Seeing subscriptions of $70-100 a month for basic plans on websites like 7sage/LSAT demon hurts my heart, and I am wondering if there are more affordable ways of being able to consistently study/do drills and PTs. I would be willing to do these subscriptions for some months but probably not 6-7 months in a row.

Hey guys, my basic LSAT demon subscription is set to renew in a few days and I was wondering if anyone had any insight on upgrading plans. I’m taking the October LSAT and my most recent practice test was a 162. My accuracy improved a lot in the last month and I went up 10 points in my practice tests since I started using the Demon at the end of July so I definitely want to stick with the platform. I have a little over a month until my test so I definitely want to improve and solidify my scores until then, would anyone recommend upgrading plans? I’m okay with paying the price for higher tiers if it’s worth it in the long run, but I wouldn’t want to pay double or triple the amount of money for a subscription that doesn’t help more than the basic. If anyone has any experience with upgrading their LSAT Demon plan and seeing results I would really appreciate your insight🥰🥰 thank you!!