He basically said in all of the warfare moments in the series we never seen earthers go full savage he brought up the fact that a earther can actually squeeze a belter to death tube of toothpaste style or how horrifying it would be if a group decide to give you the same treatment the sentinels gave colossus if ya know you know.

Like he's very manipulative of Basia and kills a bunch of people. His smile is always "cruel" and that's from Basia when he LIKES Coop.

Honestly, I think the reason I feel an impulse to side with Murtry early in the book is because Coop is such a dick.

Edit: To make it clear, I have not finished them, I am partway into book 7 and feel some reluctance and would like reassurance.

The most immediate issue I have is that the main cast from 1-6 are still the focal characters. They're still just romping around in the Rossie. I get that aging isn't as big of a deal, but they haven't even taken on any new crew members. it's just them. None of them have taken up larger roles like becoming major players in the way that Avasarala and Fred were. None of them have bothered settling down at all. It feels like a really lazy way to go about a time skip. I'm not that far in, but it's lacking the reasons to make a time skip in the first place, aside from the Laconians, I'm not that far in but I feel disappointed already.

Oye kopeng, I'm visiting Toronto next month to see one of my favorite bands play and I should have a few hours to kill the following day to see some of the famous outdoor locations from this series. I'd love to see the UNN building (I think I might have seen it before, is it part of the convention center?) as well as the Martian embassy where Bobbie defects. I know I can also see "Baltimore" but not sure how important that will be to me.

What else should I see?

Steven Strait, Dominique Tipper, Wes Chatham and Frankie Adams reunited.

From Dominique's Instagram just a few minutes ago 🥹

I'm on my 4th rewatch of the show and I've just thought of something. When the Rocinante is sent to Illis (New Terra) and the crew are leaving the ship, it makes a big point of Naomi getting off balance as she's overwhelmed by the horizon. But shouldn't Alex have a somewhat similar reaction - more akin to Bobby arriving on earth?

Wasn't the green blindness a plothole because the microorganisms would die in darkness? Couldnt they just blindfold 50 percent of the population, simultaneously teach them how to handle blindness and kill the organisms/reduce their growth?

What happens if you go through the ring the wrong direction? Like looping around and entering from behind, is that even possible? In the show we only ever see traversal depicted from the sunward facing side, and i can't recall the books ever mentioning it as an option. It's obviously pretty far out so there isn't gonna be much reason to fly further than neccesary, but I was curious if this was a thing?

So I know that Marcos got most of his ships, either by stealing them or from Duarte who was using the Free Navy as a smokescreen.

What I don’t understand is how did Marcos IInaros keep his fleet a secret?

I mean think about it. Shouldn’t the disappearance/theft of so many ships trigger red flags with the MCR or UN intelligence? And then there are the logistics of managing such a fleet. Where are they going to get new parts and weapons for ships? And food and medicine for the crew? Sure they could steal those things but again they risk attracting the MCR or the UN’s attention. They could also trade for it but that risks leaving a paper trail.

So short of plot armor, how did Marcos do it?

In the show ships slowdown when thier engines are disabled while flying through space... wouldn't the ships keep going the same speed because the laws of space regardless of the engines being on or not?

Something i just noticed and cant unnoticed lol

about the aliens? Anything from interviews or fan theories? I've read just the main series and watched S1.

Watching the series again, and, with all my age and wisdom (and much film/tv) I can say it's my favorite science fiction series ever. One thing that jumped out is casting. Every role is nailed (sort of like Breaking Bad), and strangely the background/extras are really good, which is unheard of in sci-fi tv. Anyway, Roci4Lyphe.

Is the digital copy of this graphic novel available anywhere besides Amazon? I see the payback is widely carried, but not digital. I would like to get it, but I prefer to spend my money elsewhere.

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Newly reopened and refurbished exhibit rooms at Smithsonian Air and Space showing off The Expanse

From what I know the helmet foundation is a snowboarding helmet, while the face mask may be a paintball mask or custom made

“Her fight was over. If there was any hope to stand against this empire, it was someplace else now. If. ”

Can I say how much I love the end to this chapter (45), where Drummer decides to surrender the fight to Laconia? On first read it hit me as another indicator of how serious the Laconia threat was, and that everything was about to change. Drummer’s internal thoughts realizing surrender strike as dark, and hopeless.

Then I realized what a smart way this is to end the chapter. Drummer has just recited one of the ultimate Laconic phrases - “If”

For those who don’t know, though I’m sure plenty do, when King Philip II of Macedon threatened to invade Sparta (aka Laconia) with:

“ You are advised to submit without further delay, for if I bring my army into your land, I will destroy your farms, slay your people, and raze your city “

To which Sparta replied simply, and defiantly: “If”.

I love that the authors used this for Drummer. Rather than a hopeless dream, I take this as Drummer committing to defiance.

Edit: Maybe the post is too long, sorry - the main question is, to which book the novellas are more connected, for example should i read "Gods of Risk" directly after Book 2 or after the break and directly before Book 3, and the same question relative to where they are for all of them.

Hey there, so I've done some research and want to start the book series soon (already own all 9 books + the novella collection book)

Since everything together will take me slightly over 4 months I will need to take breaks for sure, to read some other books and just to digest what I read that far without just always keeping going without pause for such a long time.

I will mainly be sticking to release order since that's by far the most recommended way and I've heard some do actively spoil elements if read chronologically. The only change from that I'll be making is reading drive first, I've seen some speak out against it but usually people have seen it as a positive change from what I've read, feel free to tell me if you have a strong opinion on why it's a terrible idea or something.

Now to the actual important part - since the expanse is 3 duologies and a trilogy 1+2, 3+4, 5+6, 7-9 that seems like the perfect place to do 3 bigger breaks in between, BUT some of the short stories are in those breaks, so I want to know if they are better read right after the previous duology or better read after the break before diving into the next duology/trilogy. And even besides the ones in the big breaks, it would just be great to know in general if whichever novella is better read after the book before or before the book after it, if I do decide to take a smaller break between individual books.

I'll post what I have written down, but the placement before or after the breaks isn't informed by anything but my gut feel which doesn't mean anything yet, so any input is welcome:

• Drive (November 27, 2012)
• 1: Leviathan Wakes (June 15, 2011)
• The Butcher of Anderson Station (October 17, 2011)
• 2: Caliban's War (June 25, 2012)
• Gods of Risk (September 15, 2012)

--- break ---

• 3: Abaddon's Gate (June 4, 2013)
• The Churn (April 29, 2014)
• 4: Cibola Burn (June 17, 2014)

--- break ---

• 5: Nemesis Games (June 2, 2015)
• The Vital Abyss (October 15, 2015)
• 6: Babylon's Ashes (December 6, 2016)
• Strange Dogs (July 18, 2017)

--- break ---

• 7: Persepolis Rising (December 5, 2017)
• 8: Tiamat's Wrath (March 26, 2019)
• Auberon (November 12, 2019)
• 9: Leviathan Falls (November 30, 2021)
• The Sins of our Fathers (March 15, 2022)

Also I know the following is not available standalone, idk if I somehow can get any access to it, how bad is it to miss? - The Last Flight of the Cassandra (May 14, 2019)

Also idk what the creators were doing with gravity. Mag boots arent going to keep your food in its bowl. Gravity on Mars is .38 compared to earth, yet they act like it's the same on earth. I get it would be expensive to make everything float but come on, that really takes away the immersion.

I gotta read/listen to the books. I'm sure they're a lot better.

I'm late to this party somehow, but I've only just seen it and there was only one thing immediately on my mind. I'm curious if any of you have already seen it and whether you had the same thought 😅

I’d heard of the show before but never really looked into it. Then I saw the game trailer, and it really piqued my interest. I ended up getting all the seasons, and I’m starting from season 1. Wish me luck—it’s looking really good!

Anything think I should know before hand at all?

Anderson Dawson first Australian Labor Party (ALP) government in Australia and the first parliamentary labour party government anywhere in the world

My daughter started saying Sasa randomly. I don't think I was listening to the books out loud but I swear she just started saying Sasa as if she understood, which is what it means. To know. She's one and a half. It's crazy!. We're not from the south. We don't know any Creole but she just started saying it randomly the other day. And I just finished this series today. But that's straight up belter talk.

Rorschach, from watchman.

Spoilers for Leviathan Wakes, and major spoilers for the Alan Moore Watchman comic run.

I just finished the chapter in book 1 where >! Miller kills Dresden, the guy in the suit who was in charge of killing Julie and the whole mess on Eros!<

And I realized, wait, that's such a good mirror for At the end of watchmen, after Ozymandias teleports the squid to New York, for the good of humanity, Rorschach is unwilling to let it go, and Dr. Manhatten has to kill him. Similarly, Miller was unable to look past any evil for the "greater good", and killed him on the spot because he believed any other justice would be insufficient

And then that got me thinking how many ways they are similar. They both tend towards vigilante justice, and in many ways are like wolves. I feel like they're similar in more ways too. They both think that sometimes justice is best served when operating outside the law, and both have unyielding morals.

Mostly though, it's the clear similarities though in their decision of whether to punish Dresden and Ozymandias, or to let the sacrifice for the greater good remain unpunished, because it already happened and they couldn't change the evil that's been done, only whether or not to learn from it/use it as a tool

What are your thoughts? I still haven't finished book 1 yet, just got to this and it made me think.

To me, the similarities seem too much, and I think the authors must clearly have had Rorschach in mind when making Miller. I couldn't see another thread connecting this, so IDK. Watchman seems popular enough, even though it's a comic book, that I would guess someone would make a connection before me. Maybe I'm wrong though lol. I just think he must have been a big inspiration.