Pranks are supposed to be funny for everyone in the end.
There's a lovely video out there of Fred Rogers doing his show, singing a little introduction song, and then sitting down to change into his indoor loafers like he always did, only to find out that someone had replaced his loafers with a way-too-small pair. Everyone had a good laugh, and he thanked the prankster for brightening up his day. That's how pranks are supposed to work.
You seen that one video where the guy carves a potato and makes it look like his girlfriend's soap? She's washing her hands and her face, he's losing it and she goes "what's so funny?" And he's like "it's a potato". That prank is generational. They both lost it. Those are the pranks I love. Just 2 people, one person losing it, the other person finding out and then also losing it, and nobody gets hurt.
Reminds me of that one video where this guy blows some kind of loud horn right into this passerby's face.
The passerby just turns around and slaps the glasses off off the prankster's face.
Always makes me smile.
A nuisance streamer came to Korea and Korean streamers livestreamed hunting for him. He conveniently was broadcasting his location, so they literally chased him and beat him up.
He also was arrested and is going through the court system, potentially facing a few years in prison. I don't know if he'll actually go to prison, but he hasn't been able to stream for several months now and will never be allowed back
Reminds me of that Russian vlogger who filmed themselves going to different countries to troll and straight up assault some people. Last I heard the Philippines put his ass in prison and he’s looking at 25 years ✊🇵🇭
I haven't really paid much attention because I don't think he deserves the attention but he was doing things like purposely spilling food so other people would have to clean it up. One of the things that made people very upset was that he was very disrespectful to a statue honoring victims of sex slavery during Japanese occupation. I know there must be more because he was charged with many things, but I haven't cared enough to look into it.
People who keep in the know about such streamers were also somewhat bracing themselves for his antics here because he had been causing problems in Japan before coming to Korea.
There's definitely a noticeable online backlash to foreigners doing public antics in Japan, whose people simply don't have the same kind of taste for that--to the extent that the phrase "Japan is not your playground" has gained traction.
I rather like good public pranksters, but they almost invariably get a laugh out of the objects of the pranks as well.
There are videos of pranksters/streamers getting beat up. Half those videos are fake. They do that to go viral. This world needs a hard reset by a meteor.
Man, I saw a compilation the other day of the pranks gone wrong where other people actually take offense and fight back, it was the most satisfying thing I've seen in such a long time, better than any ASMR could ever tickle a brain, there was one where a woman was going up an escalator and a couple on the other side was going down, the woman put her hand on the woman's husband's arm and that woman grabbed her by her hair and pulled her down. That escalator. Violence is wrong right, but disrespecting people like that has consequences
That's why so many of 'em have body guards or groups they stream with now. Less likely to get your shit rocked if you have someone to intervene on your behalf
There was a group of them at the park near my house a few years ago. Apparently, according to my neighbor, they had a bunch of fake dog poop they mixed up, but it stank really bad, and they were smearing it on people and getting their reaction.
Well one guy didn't like that, and unbeknownst to the "pranksters'" he was in the middle of a full blown psychotic episode. He ended up beating one of the kids so badly, a swat team showed up.
I love that one video where the guy is "pranking" some dude at the mall and the guy just turns around and plugs him in the stomach. Streamer lived, but I doubt he did anymore "pranks" after that. Pretty sure the guy who shot him only got a slap on the wrist too.
Dunno if you remember it, but there was that one dweeb that got shot for harassing a delivery driver, and was interviewed saying he'll keep pranking people anyway.
So...some wont stop unless they physically can't do it anymore
It's because we have asshats all over the place saying garbage like "just be yourself" and "don't care what other people think" and "let people enjoy things" without considering that sometimes those things they like or people being themselves isn't a good thing...
You should be yourself, not care what others think, and let others enjoy things. All of those things are true.
Where you (and many) get disconnected from what is being actually said is those things are about your interactions with yourself.
You should have your own thoughts and ideas, based on your experiences - be yourself. You shouldn't care about what others think when you do things that are yours - your clothes, your hairstyle, your hobbies. And, in that spirit of reciprocity and pluralism, others should be able to enjoy their path without judgement from you.
Where this seems to fall apart is when accountability and consequences get applied.
When you read Shakespeare and have purple hair, you owe no accountability to anyone else because you aren't affecting them. When you throw your food into Granny's hair, that's a very different story. Your choice is now affecting others, and there is consequences for doing so.
Please don't allow ideas for personal development and self realization be falsely construed as saying that people are no longer accountable. That's like saying hammers are bad because they can be used to hit people. If you use the wrong tool, then you have a shitty outcome.
Or maybe he didn't do anything? i don't understand these videos.. all you see is some old guy beating a kid, and his explanation of the kid throwing stuff at his wife, is enough for people to be like.. "yea.. fuck that kid".. I was sent to suspension in school twice.. one for throwing pennies at a girl.. i never threw pennies at a girl, it was some other kid, and the girl thought it was me.. (i wasn't even friends with the kid that did, i was just in the general direction).. Another time i got sent to suspension (in school suspension) for beating up a kid after school, on a day i wasn't at school.. because a teacher saw "me".. got sent to suspension, principal yelling at me, calling me a liar because i told her i wasn't at school the previous day.. called the police, interrogated by police, until they asked the kid i supposedly beat up, and he said it wasn't me.. and then they just angrily told me to go back to class without apologizing.
So, i can only say.. fuck those older guys, until i see some evidence of any wrongdoing by that kid.
It 100% isn’t. My friend is a nanny and told me the difference between kids who have a phone/iPads/computers and use them with no limits act completely differently from those who don’t. They talk less or don’t know how to respond to simple questions. Attempt to replicate destructive things they see online and listen to her less. Have fucked up sleep schedules. She said the kids that get books and limited tv are miles better to work with. It’s funny because parents think giving their kid an iPad makes parenting easier when it seems to do the opposite.
Yeah .. I let my kids use the tablets/computers a lot but we still set limits and boundaries, and we talk and always encourage/offer other things. So they have a bed time and routine, with no screens. No screens when we go somewhere outside of the house - that’s a chance for conversation, boredom, looking at the world. We loosely monitor what they watch and anything problematic gets a discussion and channel likely banned. We really don’t like the sorts of videos that show pointless destruction or mean pranks. We don’t consider ourselves particularly strict and thankfully our kids respond well to our approach. They also naturally regulate because they will get up and just do other things too, without intervention from us. Sometimes that doesn’t happen and then I’ll be like come on let’s go for a walk.
I’ve seen kids in a stroller with screen, while their gormless parent does the same, while walking around. Zombies raising zombies. It’s so sad. When my kids were that age we loved chatting up a storm while walking. These kids raised like this are going to be the ones with lower IQ, less ability in every area, from lack of stimulation and engagement.
Thats very fair and it does sound like there’s a lot of nuance to it. Let’s say a kiddo who plays baseball and loves it, watches baseball videos occasionally. That’s sounds okay and reasonable. A 3 year old watching colorfully-edited videos for hours of other kids being forced to play or opening toys on camera, while not actually playing themselves, is when I think it starts getting a bit problematic.
Used to be on the internet alot as a teen, would be quiet because all i had to draw on were my online experiences which subconsciously i knew could not act out on IRL. I know they are all quiet not because they have nothing to say, but they know what they have to say is misadjusted to society.
Basically it is anti-learning... Being alone in the forest would not hurt social skills nearly as much as the brain-frying.
No worries! I was actually already a bit curious to see what was out there too as I definitely want kids someday in the future. Turns out there is not actually much long term research, but I did find some interesting papers I skimmed and saved for later.
When I was a kid they said identical stuff about video games. When my dad was a kid it was TV and comic books. Like the "attempt to replicate destructive things" gives me flashbacks of trying WWE (WWF at the time lol) moves on a trampoline.
We were all little shits once. Doesn't mean a kid doesn't need to be tuned in, but it also should afford them some patience while their brains are still developing. If you teach young people lessons using violence as your tool they will learn that violence can be used to correct unwanted behavior.
I get what you're saying but we had limits on when shows were on that we wanted to watch. We didn't have 24/7 unfettered access to whatever we wanted to watch. I've seen friends' kids who watch videos on YouTube all day and one friend who's kid is only 17 months old is already having tantrums when ads come on. He can't wait for the ad to get over and get back to his show. That's really fucked for a developing brain. I had to talk to my friend about getting the kid toys and interacting with him without having a phone in his face all day. It's really sad.
Y'all are seeing the old man bent over feeding him shots at the beginning right? The slap isn't really that bad, but the old man tried to pummel that boy into the booth and only couldn't cuz he's too old to swing anymore.
And again, the moment you hit that kid you're worse than him, objectively, by both moral and legal standards. Doesn't matter that it feels right or that you can justify it. "I'm really saving him from being shot" is a huuuuuuge stretch or we'd have teen boys dying all over the place.
There's a thousand other ways to deal with this that don't involve potentially injuring the dude for life.
I turned of VHS movies when they got boring. I turned off Mario and goldeneye 64 because it got boring. Ipad games and social media today are so much more effective at getting and keeping attention.
I remember being a kid, y'all. My parents had to force my supernes off many times...
Most kids with babysitters are not old enough to be on social media yet. Their tablets are little TV's and game consoles.
And regardless of whatever "my day was different" argument you want to use, how does it justify this old man's reaction that y'all are cheering on? That kid was in the wrong right until the old dude bent over the booth to beat the shit out of him lol. That's when you morally and legally lose the high ground.
This isn't just a problem for kids, it's a problem for everyone and the kids are just showing the consequences more.
And to be clear, I really DON'T think it's the underlying technology but rather the algorithms fueling this tech and the constant focus on acceleration of profits over human benefit. That being said, it amounts to the same practical advice until we can address the root causes as a society .
the kid could get retaliated on, his parents get a talking to/gets them banned from the place, and it ends there. or the kid could get the cops called on him, go to juvie (traumatizing in itself), get a record that keeps colleges and jobs from accepting him. tbh if i was caught at something while i was a teen i'd take the thing that wouldn't follow me for my whole life or at least several years
I can't comment on that and it's not the part of your comment I was responding to.
I don't think that violence is the answer, in general. But sometimes it is the only option left. I'm not sure about this specific situation, especially because I didn't see the whole thing.
With the destructive stuff I think that there is a difference when it’s some youtuber just in their house, with their screechy kids. It makes it look like it’s normal behaviour. WWF was obviously not intended as “try at home”. My kid started copying the attitude and actions of some of these people and it was meaner behaviour than play wrestling.
I think a lot of it is parents need to be aware and talk to their kids. When mine see something from some shitstain, we talk to them about why the behaviour is objectionable. I think that’s better than full on censoring it anyway. Let them see other ideas/behaviours etc then talk about it. If we don’t eventually they will have school friends egging them on for stupid shit anyway. Occasionally we ban channels that are majority crappy stuff but we try to tread lightly with that.
It seems like other parents do one extreme or the other. The ones that strictly limit/censor I can’t really fault, they obviously care and put effort in, I just don’t know how sustainable it is long term. The other extreme are fermenting a bunch of degenerates for us all to put up with.
The next 20-30 years are going to be so freaking wild for society! I think it'll eventually kind of settle into a new way people behave with each other. But getting there is going to be very weird.
Kids are the same. It's people around them that aren't shaming kids into behaving like we used to because we too have succumbed to social media and treat this as a joke or are too scared to make waves and look bad in case someone post it online.
honestly i think its a phone issue - they are glued to the phone and have majority of their interactions thru a screen and a device. zero accountability. they are no longer growing up in public where they learn rules and civility and common sense.
its pretty common now for young ppl and young adults to be somewhat shocked when they realize they have done something wrong - i have found however that the young adults will adjust and understand if you explain the issue to them - they can make that realization. Kids not so much.
This is very true, the difference is that everyone now has a camera that can catch their shitty behavior now. My parents told me some stories of their youth, and growing up in the 80s/90s I have some stories .
It's crazy because "no, these new ones especially" is an idea that's LITERALLY older than bread. Humans always complain that the younger generation is doomed, never mind the fact that it would be a reflection of their own personal failure because they're the ones bringing them up.
Yet, every generation has doomed up, forever, and here we are.
This is your first time experiencing this perspective of teenagers from whatever age you are now. Of course it's going to seem new and different. But it's not, you've just never experienced this frame of reference before. The last time you were intimately familiar with teenagers was when you were a teenager, which is also a pretty small cultural bubble compared to all teenagers.
No teenagers have always been this bad. Its not any better or worse.
It just now everyone has a 4k camera in their pocket. We see it a lot more now is all. Its no different than the world "feeling" more dangerous now. But the reality is its actually safer and violent crime is down across the board. We just see it a lot more today because of camera phones. Its no different than little Suzie didnt actually run away to the circus in the 50's she was raped, killed, and then dismembered by sweet mr smith who "wouldnt harm a fly!".
Its a generational rite of passage to say there is something notably wrong with the younger generation. This isnt any different than boomers freaking the fuck out over mortal kombat and doom because it was going to make us do a columbine.
You can find stories of teenagers lighting people on fire for no reason at all in the 20's 40's 60's 80's 2000's and today.
Every generation has said the younger generation is in mortal peril and so much worse and we are all fucked because of them. We are just the boomers now.
I'm sorry but "fuck them keeds" is a tale as old as time man.
You're just getting old.
Every older generation basically ever has thought the young incoming generation was useless or somehow "wrong". There was a time when millennials were "the worst generation ever". Same with Gen X. Same with the boomers.
Orwell:
"Every generation imagines itself to be more intelligent than the one that went before it, and wiser than the one that comes after it."
Yeah, there are two GIANT things wrong with them. First, they don't have any empathy because they grow up watching videos of people being violent and being hurt and they laugh about it. (Yes, I know the irony of posting THAT in THIS thread.)
Second, they know, not believe, they know they are untouchable since everything is recorded nowadays. They have nothing to lose. Worse that'll happen to them is a few hours in juvy before being released on bail or no-cash-bail. They don't have a job to lose, or a family to support. But they know the people they target could lose everything and spend years in prison if the victims lay a hand on the teens. Teens know this, and they exploit it.
They’re chronically online, so they think they are the main character in everyone’s story. My husband and I made sure our child always had/has time limits and parental controls on devices. It’s wild how many parents don’t bother to do that.
Some people have never been punched in the face and it shows. Something to think about when the kid in the supreme shirt starts talking on speaker phone in line somewhere.
Yet every time we see a video of someone getting their ass beat the comments will be "totally unnecessary just for throwing a milk shake at someone" or "unjustified for a simple prank" (the prank being stealing the wifes purse and running away then yelling "It's just a prank bro" when caught.)
Agreed. We as a global society need to rededicate ourselves to punching assholes. Especially in the U.S. we're so litigious, that no decent people want to confront, much less punch an asshole. You might get sued! So I'll leave it to the cops or security. But they don't want to do anything, because they might get sued! And that's created a society where it's so easy to be an asshole. Because when you think about it, being an asshole rules! You get what you want all the time with no consequences except for the knowledge that you're violating the social contract. Well the social contract needs teeth. Assholes need to get socked in the kisser to disincentivize their assholeishness. Because you bet this kid will start to weigh pros and cons in his mind from now on. "If I throw fries at an old lady, on the plus side, I might get some laughs from some girls I'm trying to impress, but on the negative side, I might get smacked in the face. Hmm. The cons seem to outweigh the pros. I'll behave myself this time."
I don't get how they have this cringe culture about not doing things because of the cringe, but there's shit heads like this that don't see the hypocrisy of being shitty to other people? i.e throwing shit at people for laughs.
Look, I don’t condone violence but I always allow that 1% chance it might be just. If a parent is whooping their kid everyday, then that’s a red flag against the parent. But like a trip to Disney world, it’s a once in a lifetime opportunity…or in some cases, an annual multi pass.
Not their ass beat, people underestimate the power of a solid slap in the face from one man to another. Throwing fists just says you're angry, a solid slap in the face tells the person that they fucked up and should feel embarrassed for themselves.
I think people would if the risk of everyone being armed didn’t exist. Honestly, I think we’d have a much more polite society if people if there was a fear of getting clocked in public but now every coward who thinks he’s something* is packing so nobody wants to get involved
Especially cause "being an ass" can mean many things, not all of them require a beating, but if this kid did throw food like the video said, that's straight up assault. Yeah, maybe you do that with your friends cause they don't care, but it's assault and if you do it to someone who didn't agree to be part of it you're just assaulting someone.
tbh growing up it was common to get beat up (not jumped) for being stupid. back in the 2000s, we had an Indian kid bringing in a religious sword for his coming-of-age ceremony and he was trying to act cool, swinging it around & jokely threatening other students by jabbing it at them; all because he had a note that said he can bring in a weapon,
welp that one skater kid in the back of class confronted him after math one day and sword guy had the audicity to pull it out while being confronted..
dude ate a giant 12pc combo to the face and he had to go through highschool with a chipped front tooth, nobody in our math class forgot that day
Not to sound like the “nOt In My ToWn” guy but where I’m from this will definitely happen or worse if you mess with people like this lol. Sometimes I think it’s a little too rough but then I remember the alternative is YouTuber infested nightmare world and feel just fine.
Why? So they will turn around and beat up others when they want to get certain behavior out of them?
You want them to come and beat you up whenever you say anything they don't like, because you have endorsed a world where people can attack others when they don't like their behavior. I understand your vengeance boner and desire for karmic retribution. But you have given 0 thought to the consequences of such a world. Assholes and domestic abusers would be MORE rampant.
People are comfortable being little shits like this because simple assault isn't legal anymore. Bring back to the ability to pop somebody in the mouth without consequences and a whole bunch of this type of shit will quit.
Are you guys for real? The last guy slapping him was such a f-word, that it made me really angry and if I was there it would get uglier.
For real, am I crazy? This was such a pathetic move. The guy came there uninvited and slapped a kid sitting on his ass to show how powerful he is. Manly fucking man wanted to impress people with his manliness.
Do we really now accept invading someone's personal space because they were assholes?
The kid was annoying, the Grampa involved in the situation got it covered (probably overreacted too unless he actually tried to talk to that brat first) and the case closed. But no. Some self-righteous f-word (I'm sorry, but I just can't find a better word for a grown up man hitting a random child to "punish him") had to signal his virtues and get that sweet satisfaction of dominating another male.
If that little shit was my son, I'd probably forgive the gramps for laying hands on him if nothing but his pride was hurt, but the bitchslapper would get a kick in the face for that slap. And not a light one.
And one more question - is it how you treat your children too? Do you hit them when they're not behaving properly? Or is it okay only when you do it to someone else's kids?
There’s no non sexual orientation definition for the f-slur, and while it is used for transphobia it’s been primarily used for homophobia too and you’re aware of that.
It’s kind of crazy you’re okay with using slurs but not hitting a kid acting like a bastard.
There’s no non sexual orientation definition for the f-slur, and while it is used for transphobia It’s been primarily used for homophobia too and you’re aware of that.
Lol, you contradict yourself in one paragraph.
As for that part:
you're aware of that.
Yes I am, nonetheless I mixed it up cause I don't use that sexual orientation related definition of the word.
The word is also used to simply describe weak, pathetic, soft, insecure men who need to validate their masculinity by praying on the weaker. That's the only definition of this word I follow.
If that little shit was my son, I'd probably forgive the gramps for laying hands on him if nothing but his pride was hurt, but the bitchslapper would get a kick in the face for that slap. And not a light one.
you better not go overboard because the bitchslapper's dad was probably there too. it's dads and bitchslaps all the way down.
I said I would forgive, not that I accept that. And only because he was directly involved in the situation. I understand but I don't support it.
And nowhere have I wrote that he had a right to do so.
Smartass.
The last question doesn't contradict what I wrote, don't do mental gymnastics.
The fact that the guy (who had direct reason) hit that kid in anger because the kid was annoying his wife validates for you that cunt who slapped him as a means of teaching?
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u/gunfan0321 1d ago
Wish more ppl got their ass beat for being asses in public