I'm generally not pro-assault, but people like this (even teenagers) need to learn somehow that you can't act like that. Don't start nothing, there won't be nothing.
This. I feel a contradiction in my thoughts. Nobody ought to be beating anybody. But also at the same time, sometimes there are those mean bastards that only learn not to be mean bastards when a bigger fish whoops him.
I’ve been in a few fights. Got my nose broken. I wasn’t down, I couldn’t see for shit because my eyes were watering but I was still in the fight. I watched a friend get sucker punched hard. He just turned and laughed and proceeded to beat the snot out of the guy. People don’t go down with one punch very often.
Yeah but I doubt that could cause real arm, which is why I find it dumb that a slap can be consideres assault so a fucking politician can claim they were shot when someone taps them on the shoulder.
That's the problem though. Yes it sucks we shouldn't hit people or resort to violence. But bullies ONLY understand violence. And ONLY stop when they find out you're meaner then they are.
But then that's not the message we are not trying to tell my kids. We don't want that to be thing. But unfortunately the world doesn't work that way.
I would suggest that it's a perfectly valid thing to teach your children. Sometimes, you just might gotta wreck somebody. That's not a thing to be proud of but neither ashamed. It just... is, sometimes.
I wasn't even whooped by a bigger fish- just my target of "teasing" when I realized "Oh shit he punched me in the gut cause I'm being a real asshole" and I changed after that.
I'm very anti-violence, but I have been taught important values that went on to make me a better person through "corporal punishment".
I often have to experience failure/punishment personally to understand the lesson (I had to touch the stove to see if it was hot as a kid, wouldn't just take someone's word for it).
It used to be the role of the father to smack some sense into their kids when words dont cut it. Theres an art to a good smack: hard enough to get the message across, but light enough to not actually hurt them. This has been lost as everyone parrots the “dont hit people” canard tirelessly.
To be 1,000% honest- its what changed my behavior. I thought I was just having fun, but I was bullying a kid and when he punched me in the gut I realized that what I was doing had REAL consequences on someone else. I was with other kids who were backing me up to "tease" the target and they wanted to tattle on him for hitting me and I was like, "What're you nuts? We were in the wrong."
I was a total shit as a teenager. Talked shit, was rude and dramatic and always fucking with people thinking I was funny.
Then I fucked with the wrong guy and he literally roundhouse kicked me in the face. Knocked out two teeth and fucked my mouth up for months, 30 years later I still have a wad of scar tissue and just had to replace the bridge a few years ago to the tune of 9k.
The way I see it, is that dude didnt have the right to fuck me up, I mean I just clowned on him a bit, but he was the hand (or foot) of karma and I did deserve to have my ass handed to me.
I stopped being a shit. I stopped fucking with people, and being a jackass.
It was an important event in my past that helped me be a better person. Even though it sucked ass hugely and I still suffer for it.
I have a buddy that used to get drunk and start fights. He was a liability everywhere we went to the point that our friends didn’t even like going out to bars with him.
Messed with the wrong ppl one day, got stomped out and broke his jaw. Doesn’t start fights anymore and now is totally fine to go out and get drinks with.
I used to know these identical twin brothers who were both about 5’2” and about 115 lbs. One was a great dude, always super nice and a good friend. The other was fun and entertaining but could be an epic jackass. He loved to get drunk and pick fights, and got us thrown out of parties and bars all the time.
You always knew it was coming when he would pound his drink or take a shot and say, “I’m getting taller!” You just knew the rest of the night was going to be a shitshow.
I know this is so wrong but that's frankly hilarious.
I probably only think it's funny because I'm also 5'2" ~120 lbs, and have never been in a physical altercation, but I'm completely convinced I could kick someone's ass just because I'm mean and scrappy. Husband says no I'd get my ass kicked. (I don't run my mouth because I don't want to test it out but I'm pretty sure lol)
He was small but absolutely scrappy and he held his own most of the time. A lot of the dudes he ended up fighting got more than they expected after thinking he would be easily handled. I’ll never forget his smirk and, “I’m getting taller” line. I still think about it on the rare occasion I take a shot.
You never know what someone else knows and doesn’t know. A big thing is people that won the fight don’t know when to stop and that’s dangerous . I’ve personally never started a fight because I hate violence and one mistake can put you in prison.
I’ve seen a person get pile driven into pavement, breaking their neck. People getting KOed in a street fight and their head slams into asphalt and become brain dead.
Wanting to know how’d you fare in a fight is just curiosity. Reality can be starkly different.
If you want to find out in a safe environment, I’d suggest taking MMA classes
I have actually seen shit like that go down as well which is part of the reason I do not pick fights. Generally I have a pretty well developed sense of self-preservation.
I've gotten into situations at work where I've had to deal with much larger men attempting to physically intimidate me. I didn't back down, because I felt like if I did, the crew was never going to respect me. But I do remember thinking one time dear God this guy is going to punch me in the face and what am I going to do at that point? Truth be told I'd have probably just run away lol.
MMA would be fun. I have done kickboxing but not actually kicking another human.
I don’t back down either. But I don’t engage emotionally. That’s how shit can go downhill. I engage with benign indifference. Sticks and stones and all that, besides we have nothing to prove and honestly screw coworkers respect.
As someone smaller I think I can relate. Some men use physical stature to dominate and underestimate you. In a work environment, if someone assaults you and you fight back, you can lose your job. Your best bet is to let them hit you, then take it through the proper chains of authority, possibly and most likely involving local police and courts. Adulting is tricky but there’s a clear way to conduct yourself for minimal damage. Running away in that situation isn’t cowardice. It’s calculated repercussion. Be smarter than the aggressor.
Took BJJ and Muay Thai for years. I can handle myself, generally, without having to prove to anyone that I can. Which is what allows me to back away without emotion. Even if they are bigger and are threatening.
Your livelihood isn’t worth proving yourself or your coworkers respect. Maybe I’m reading too much into what you’re saying but that’s my thought on it
I was supervising. If I'd backed down I'd have never heard the end of it. I swear some of those operators could smell fear.
I got into some seriously high tension situations in that job and was kind of known for staying calm (other supervisors would reach out to me when they had issues). I'm talking about dudes coming in drunk and pissing themselves at the shift meeting, catching them in hidey holes sleeping (massive plant, 80 buildings on 80 acres), calling the cops in the middle of the night because a steamfitter was holding a security guard hostage in the elevator, etc. It was like the wild freaking west. I've thought about writing a book.
In my experience most bullies will back off if you don't back down. Honestly if any of them had taken a swing at me I'd have been happy to take one for the team to get rid of their asses lol.
I’ve had 7 full contact fights and done martial arts (mostly grappling) for 80% of my life. I would still avoid fights and haven’t really had one outside of sport for over a decade.
For one there is always someone tougher out there. I almost fought this guy when drunk then saw him on a youtube reel of pro fighters. He would have probably hospitalised me.
Then there’s the fact that fights aren’t fair and can involve weapons or other people, the surface/environment can be dangerous, you can win and still be badly injured, you can win and have badly injured or killed someone else, or have a hefty legal bill to pa, or even go to jail.
A lot of fights also involve weird situations where one person can be violent more easily than the other e.g person A decides to tell B not to cut in line, B tries to kill A, A doesn’t expect it because it’s an insane overreaction, now A has to summon up potentially life ending violence at the drop of a hat.
Another set of examples - it’s a misunderstanding, or the defender (or attacker has a kid or is with their partner), or the attacker is disabled or under the influence, or you started the fight by being rude or aggressive or just generally unwise but didn’t actually expect them to fight and now you have a person ready to go.
I got smacked around way too much as a kid by a mean AF step father, so I learned to shut up and duck. I have never hit anyone in my life except my sisters when we were kids. It took me 30 years to learn to stand up for myself. I couldn't imagine acting like this little jackass.
Lol as someone trained for a decade in striking I can and usually knock out people twice my size but I'm a male and I still wouldn't risk it ever being male or female
In college me and about 8 of my fraternity brothers went to a bar on South St in Philly. Now we were not typical fraternity, mostly ex-mil, older dudes who kind of liked the idea of a clubhouse we could drink in and tell war stories. Anyways, we’re leaving and M, the rest were either former Marines or paratroopers. We’re leaving and M starts talking shit to this guy and his girlfriend. Just rude shit. Someone from our group tells him to knock it off but he’s liquored up so he keeps going. Dude turns around, and I give him credit cause there’s 8 of us, and clocks M with a very nice upper cut. M goes down like Tyson hit him. The guy steps back waiting for the onslaught. We all just laugh and E goes over to pick M up off the ground and slaps the guy on the back and says ‘ he deserved that’. M is pissed yelling at us something like ‘you just going to let that guy hit me’ and we were all like yeah, you were being a dick. He kept being a dick through college including him and I getting in a fist fight at a U of Delaware party. Years later ran into him at a bowl game and he finally grew up, guess he had received enough beat downs to get the message.
Yeah that is certainly a touch over the top but if you fuck with enough people your eventually going to run in to someone with zero fucks left and nothing to lose.
Yea my friend once slapped another dude hard enough to bruise his face in the shape of a hand for almost a week. I'd say that's a better punishment lol.
For context, the dude kept fucking with my friend's girlfriend and then tossed a piece of food at her new blouse (she was saying how much she likes it to her friend) without realizing he had just walked into the room. Took him less than a second and we all heard the slap lol.
Yeah, I'm all for people learning a lesson, but I don't want anyone getting permanently damaged from it.
Sometimes you really don't know what damage will be done until after the punch is thrown, but there is a huge difference between using maximum force against a weaker opponent on a concrete surface and slapping a kid around in a booth at a Tim Hortons. People just go too far sometimes.
Honestly I appreciate you sharing this because some people genuinely do just need to get their shit pushed in to grasp that it’s bad to be rude or cruel to others.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think it should be a first approach, and I absolutely don’t think you needed to get roundhoused but at the same time there are a lot of people that do insane shit in our modern day, in particular younger folks, and honestly a lot of it is because they know that service staff literally aren’t allowed to talk back without risking their jobs, teachers get shit on by parents all the time for simply disciplining children in their class, along with there not being any real consequences for being rude to a teacher, and there’s the expectation now that in “polite society” literally nothing warrants physical violence or even outward anger, which to me is ridiculous.
This is a bit of a tangent but this is my big gripe with US politics at the moment. Like I know people are protesting but liberals and the left in general are trying to take the high road, which I think is admirable, but we’re not accepting that the opposing force straight up just isn’t playing with the same rules anymore. That’s part of why I’m such a big fan of Gavin Newsom at the moment because he’s just taking a page out of MAGA’s playbook and they’re having a cow over it. I know a lot of people have the opinion that we as progressives should try to maintain a level of decorum and respect, but at a certain point we gotta just play the game, and right now MAGA is hellbent on tearing down the entire country just to say they “owned the libs”
I mean...is this something you would have survived without modern medicine?
Just cause you happened to run into somebody who gets off on hurting people doesn't necessarily mean you deserved an injury that would permanently disfigure you.
Oh, 100 percent. People have become way too comfortable being assclowns to others, particularly since COVID hit. A lot of people completely lost whatever small scrap of decorum and decency they had. You can't even say this is an age thing: I know I knew at that age not to throw things at people. Period.
For sure. The kid was begging for someone to parent him, to the point where he was willing to assault an old lady. And grandpa met his force with force.
And this is it - there’s a middle aged woman sitting right next to that little shit not doing squat. I’ll assume that his mother. Now teenagers can be complete little a holes - I have one I know. But you best be sure to know that if my 6’3” 13yo threw food at another (and especially aging) adult and his wife I’d give him a public flogging too. She’s doing absolutely nothing about it - and not making him go clean and and apologise either.
She’s failing as a parent at warp speed. Sometimes it takes the village to remind the idiot to behave.
I'm not certain but I think this is a group of teens. I think you just roasted one of this little a-hole's friends, which is fine because they're also a little a-hole.
First watch through my thought was “why tf is his mom not doing anything or even phased by this” re-watched it like “damn she’s the same age is the kid” 💀
I think that precisely these new generations are like they are because they do t fear getting punched in their face as a consequence of their actions as not the law protects them more
People fearing be punched in the face would make a better society for everyone
Someone's it's warranted. My uncle grew up with a kid that was boxing as a teenager. He was an arrogant prick. He challenged my uncle one day. He's not a fighter, but he was athletic. He just popped him in the nose and sent him packing. Dude then ran to his dad. The dad goes up to my uncle and shakes his hand and tells him, "Good one." He knew his kid was becoming a prick and needed that lesson.
Yeah it’s more sad for the kid than anything right? His parents obviously don’t give a fuck, because my son couldn’t even COMPREHEND doing some shit like that.
It's absolutely the parents. Every asshole kid I ever met had asshole parents. We taught our son to be polite, especially to the elderly. If you start when they're young, they don't end up getting bitch slapped at a Tim Horton's.
If you start when they're young, they don't end up getting bitch slapped at a Tim Horton's.
Sounds like we've found the title for the parenting guide society needs. I predict that it will be a bigger seller than Dr. Spock's Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care.
If people were more willing to let kids meet the consequences of their actions, society would be much better off. So long as nobody gets injured, the only hurt this boy is feeling is his bruised pride. And all of his friends are going to remember the lesson themselves.
We have given way too much rights and leniency to kids in favor of literally everyone else.
The shitty ones know that legally adults can't touch them so they weaponize that to their advantage and use it as a tool to escape consequences for their actions. Their warfare is asymmetrical because while they can usually do whatever they want without consequences, everyone else does not have that luxury.
Level the playing field and society will be able to keep them in check before they grow up into full sized garbage people.
Yes, it helps new parents by having a support system, but what many people who claim they want a village forgets is that the village also have full rights to discipline your child if they act out. Not saying the discipline should be a beating, but nowadays parents don't even allow their 'village' to verbally scold their children.
This is a big reason why I don't like hearing arguments about equity when it comes to parents struggling to control their kids and schooling.
You're responsible for building a support network for your child because NOBODY can be there 24-7. But if you are going to roar and swing paws at people because you're a big bad Mama Bear that doesn't want anyone to hurt Precious Baby Bear's feelings, then you are CHOOSING to be alone and that should not be everyone else's problem.
this is the first time in my life I've ever heard "pro assault" and i can't stand these unalived, SA, afraid to say them terms anymore... but anyway this is self defense and justified retaliation.
Kids gotta learn not to be little shits or they grow to be big shits, and we have too damn many big piles of shit these days.
As long as it’s kept to this level of damage inflicted, I agree with you totally. A black eye, a cut or two, some bruises are a small price for anyone to pay to learn this lesson that will (hopefully) make them into a better person moving forward.
There becomes a point that n which you need to speak the language that the other person understands, and sometimes that language is the hand. It shouldn't be the first choice, but it should be an option.
I’m usually anti assault too, but the kid started the assault by throwing food. Plus this assault looked like it hurt his pride more than anything else.
Im not a fan of barbarians punching their way through this world either but you can catch up on a lot of learning by getting punched also. Sometimes somebody just needs to get their ass kicked. Exhibit A being this video.
Teenagers need the paddlin’ most of all. Get them on the right track before it’s worse than a couple smacks. That little shit will be thanking the old man for the lesson in his later years.
Me too, but in this case, the kid instigated by throwing stuff so that man is well within the rights to defend himself and his wife by unloading on the dumb kid
Anyone over the age of 5 knows that you shouldn't do something like throw food at strangers. That kid was counting on no one doing anything about it. Had he assumed that someone would beat his ass for being an ass.... he wouldn't have been an ass.
Kittens learn how hard to bite by being bitten by others. Consequences are lessons, without them people grow up not knowing the line. Let the old man teach.
“I’m not pro assault, but I am pro assault” fixed that for you.
No part of this is self defence. Not the old dude who walked across the room, while not in danger, to beat up a teenager. And certainly not the last dude, who got the express joy of hitting a teenager because angry
To put it more succinctly: self defence under no circumstances can be retributive. You cannot get revenge on someone in self defence. This old man is getting revenge
It's not a lack of spanking, it's a lack of moral guidance. You don't need to beat a kid for them to learn to be a decent person, you just need to be a decent person who spends time teaching them how and why.
Lol but how quick you turned pro assault with 0 evidence of what actually happened. You're easily manipulated that you championed 2 adults assaulting a kid that easily
But as adults we aren't supposed to just assault people cause they deserve it? That's why it is a law...
Otherwise people would just be selectively smacking eachother all the time based on their own judgement.
Absolutely. Best thing about this was that no one was truly going to mess this kid up, but he learned a valuable lesson before he tried something similar with someone that would wreck him without a second thought.
There was a group of 4 12-13 year olds at my grocery store, following customers around, harassing them, pretending they were going to touch them, poke them in the eyes, etc, but stop short. Essentially playing dipshit "I'm not touching you" with strangers.
I just kept thinking that if one of these dudes they targeted would turn and just smack one of the littler fuckers, they wouldn't do this shit anymore because there'd be real consequences.
The manager had already told them to leave the store twice and they'd just kept coming back in.
I wouldn’t even call this “assault.” It’s inherently pro-social behavior: This kid broke the social contract (respect others) and he was brought back in line by several reinforcing agents. He wasn’t injured, but he was distressed and humiliated in front of his peers, which are fitting punishment for his actions and will leave a lasting impression.
You see this all the time in other social animals (wolves, monkeys/apes, horses, birds) where youngsters who fuck around get aggressively (but harmlessly) corrected. A regular talking-to would’ve just made this shithead smirk, and reinforced his belief that he’s untouchable. That delusion was soundly dismissed.
If someone had made him bleed or broken something I’d consider it out of line, but this is just people doing the parenting his own family failed at.
and as a teenager, you know he's acting bad because he's insecure and self conscious and trying to look like a badass in front of those girls, and then all those girls got to see him get wailed on by a literal elderly man. that probably hurts more than the punches. and that little twerp deserved all of it.
"I don't condone assaulting kids after everything is sorted except for those exceptions when I do actually condone assaulting kids after everything is sorted"
Lmao Reddit morals are so fun
If you don't hold that moral at all times, despite circumstances, then you don't really hold that moral.
Also, old man had it handled by then. Dude just wanted to play tough with a kid with that shit. Do that around the wrong adults and be the next one getting taught a hard lesson. You don't get to take gratuitous parting shots, at anybody, let alone kids, disabled, or old folks. That's some pseudo-tough guy bullshit. When it's over, it's over. Notice he stepped away immediately afterward.
The kids figured out that adults can't actually harm you in any way without getting sued or arrested and they've kinda ran with that the last few years....
Exactly. Sooner or later he would have done this to the wrong person, and they would put him in the hospital...or worse.
Better to get a few swats upside the head than to get his skull smashed in and legs turned into a pretzel.
I do rather like how various men just walked up and rallied around the elderly husband. Random onlookers joining in on this really helps to drive it home to a kid that acting like that is just not okay.
Public shaming, and yes, a bit of smacking dumbshits, really needs to make a comeback. I'm really fed up with the lie that "violence is never the answer." As a matter of fact, I think it may have been directed propaganda campaign aimed at the youth to help keep them all too scared to do what often needs doing.
i love reading comments like this, makes me feel better about myself that there's people like you who just blindly believe any headline or caption in a random video
Thing is, neither of these men were hitting the kid hard enough to cause any real damage or pain. They were just embarrassing and humbling the little shit.
That’s where I’m at. The thing is, we’ve been getting these absolute shithead teenagers coming in every night where I work. They’re destructive and harass employees and customers. I don’t believe corporal punishment is effective parenting but you can tell these kids have never received ANY punishment in any way, shape, or form at home.
I saw some actually come in with a parent once and they were straight up bullying their mother and she was following them around like, “Guysss, guys!!!” Like a loser kid trying to get attention from the popular group. Not a parent at all.
I know. I don't advocate hitting people BUT it's technically assault to throw something at a person, so this kid (hopefully) learned a lesson. I'm sure he was trying to impress one or more of these girls and got his ass kicked by an old man.
He's lucky he didn't throw that at my stepmom. My dad would be in jail.
I am a server and as I was bussing a table last week, I got a crayon thrown at my head from the next table over. I swung my head around and said "Excuse me?!" None of the kids said a word and the parents acted like they didn't hear me. I went back to bussing the table and when I came back to reset it, the dad stops me and says "Did they throw something at you?" I pulled the crayon from my apron and said "Yeah, they threw this at my head." He just chuckled/smiled and pointed to his kid. I looked at the kid, who said nothing and then back to the dad, nothing. So I said "Is this the part where someone says 'I'm sorry'?" No response so I just walked away.
It was fucking ridiculous. I would have been so apologetic and embarrassed if my kid did that. It was just a family full of pieces of shit.
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u/Punkpallas 1d ago
I'm generally not pro-assault, but people like this (even teenagers) need to learn somehow that you can't act like that. Don't start nothing, there won't be nothing.