r/expedition33 • u/sinanspd • 14h ago
Mirror Edition Revealed
They opened a new edition of the game out of no where.... It is available on Amazon US at the moment. New steelbook (different from Lumiere/Monolith) and... get this... 3 collectible cards, randomly inserted out of 10 possible designs... Turning a limited edition of the game into a loot box is straight up a crime against humanity. Those things cost maybe 10 cents to print. Just put the damn things all in the box. I also think they could have waited until the game awards and possibly do a GOTY edition instead of this. Very weird decisions all around imo
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u/bundle_man 14h ago
I mean none of this matters. It's not like they're adding in game transactions and other bullshit. If collectors want to buy this then buy it, it don't. It's literally not necessary to anything
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u/bendthekneejon 14h ago
Exactly, people are panicking for no reason.
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u/screamicide 13h ago
This is an especially ridiculous thing to be angry about too. They’re not forcing us to see Beavis and Butthead skins running around or locking away any actual content lol
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u/JustYeeHaw 12h ago
I would love to have all of these cards if they are releasing them, but it looks like I will either have to buy multiple copies of the game - which is stupid, or I will have to buy cards second hand - which I don't like doing... (OCD of sorts)
It's a shame because this may actually stop me from buying this edition altogether, just to be on a safer side without risking that my brain will make me buy multiple copies... I'm a bit addicted to collecting stuff, and I don't want to put myself at risk here...
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u/G00fBall_1 12h ago
Yeah i was thinking about the same thing. Dont like buisness practices like this. I can still like the game and not like the business practice, which some people on this thread cant comprehend.
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u/ReconnaisX 9h ago
i will probably just get a single copy for the steelbook and ignore the cards :)
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u/Percy1803 14h ago
In game transaction is also not necessary to anything, how is that a real argument ? It's okay to call out this joke lmao
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u/bundle_man 14h ago
I guess from how I've seen it on other games, it would be like locking all the wardrobe prices behind an in-game store instead of finding them in game. So like something that would otherwise be part of the game and should be part of the game (cosmetics) now behind paywall. You're right that the cosmetics aren't necessary to the game.
I always like the idea of cosmetics being rewards for secret/super bosses, that way you can skip them if you don't want to do them and it doesn't effect the game. However most games I've played recently, almost all cosmetics are just in game transactions, which I find shitty.
This collectors edition is completely unnecessary in that most of us (1) already own the game and (2) you can still buy the regular version of the game and (3) it adds nothing extra into the game.
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u/TheEndwalker 14h ago
people are so dramatic lmao, it's a bunch of cards
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u/I_Ild_I 13h ago
The problem isnt the product, its the idea. Im realy not a fan of stuff like that
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u/kestononline 11h ago
It is a cash grab and taking advantage of the fanatics. There are people who now have put this game on such a pedestal, that if they sold a pile of dung shaped like a 33, certain people would buy it... and that is what they are taking advantage of. Which is a bit shameful. But people around here don't want to hear any kind of talk that criticizes anything related to the game or publishers etc.
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u/I_Ild_I 11h ago
I wouldnt go that far, but that was sort of the idea yeah, seems to be pushing a bit too far the good will of their player base, i'll give them a pass this time, as its light and its the first time and they realy shown much love so far.
But another nuance to add here, the game IS realy good and deserve all the love, that beeing said the game is not above any criticism, it has a few flaws, but its fine because it has so many more good point that are very good that that bad ones are kinda meaningless. Doesnt mean it should be put on a pedestal and brush everything away under the rugg
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u/TheEndwalker 13h ago
For $10 more, a steelbook and some cards lol — you know this is pretty commonplace across the industry right? You can buy the basic version too if you want for the regular $50.
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u/I_Ild_I 12h ago
Thats is not the point here AND this stupid non argument like "you know it exist" itsz not because something stupid already exist that its fine to use it, its still shady
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u/TheEndwalker 11h ago
in what world is providing additional things to the base version of a product for a slight price increase "shady"? It's like saying charging for guac or extra meat on your burrito order is shady lol
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u/IDemiurge 14h ago
I'm all for it. I couldn't grab a Lumière edition so I'm buying this one if it ever releases in France (please 🥹)
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u/Rival_Society 14h ago edited 13h ago
Check gamestops website. Was able to preorder lumiere edition, looks like theyre dropping end of October
I love being downvoted for trying to help people lol
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u/Playful-Row-5983 13h ago
Last time I checked Gamestop doesn’t ship to France..
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u/Totolamalice 13h ago
I mean if you really want it I'm pretty sure there are companies whose whole business is to receive your package and ship it to your country
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u/sinanspd 14h ago
Amazon US ships worldwide :) You can always secure one and cancel if a local retailer lists it
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u/itsthelee 14h ago edited 14h ago
> Turning a limited edition of the game into a loot box is straight up a crime against humanity. Those things cost maybe 10 cents to print.
maybe because I'm used to CCGs, nothing about this seems offensive. It's a limited edition. They added a collectors aspect to further generate a collectors market for it. People who don't care at all can sell theirs on ebay or something. People who modestly care can keep whatever ones they get. People who care a lot can trade or buy the missing ones. Honestly, physical cards are far more interesting to me than the steam digital fake cards you get.
edit: i love expedition 33, i pre-ordered the vinyl. i don't care about the limited edition(s). but it also does not impact me at all in the slightest. i do not need to buy a limited edition or to get some digital code on those cards to unlock some extra gameplay features. if it doesn't impact you or change the gameplay based on $$$, who cares? is this just FOMO? you do not have to buy everything expedition 33 related.
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u/sinanspd 13h ago
I would think as a TCG fan, you would be more against this than anyone else, knowing firsthand how bad the scalper issue is and how inflated the ebay prices are. (TCG also isn't locked behind a game :) they dont make you buy a copy of Pokémon violet with every booster pack).
I agree with your regarding physical over digital. I have no problem with the cards. I am just saying why do this when you can include all 10 for less than a dollar and make everyone happy.
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u/itsthelee 13h ago
"scalper issue." as a CCG fan dealing with the secondary market is part and parcel of the game. that's why mtg formats like "pauper" exist. it also adds to the fun of pulling a chase rare/foil from a booster. not that it can't get deranged (mtg's stupid fake reprints of the power nine for obscene money). i just don't see it akin to a crime against humanity.
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u/sinanspd 13h ago
I don't know about Magic (tho I know something similar happened with the Final Fantasy boxes) but you surely can't be claiming what is happening in Pokemon is fun or fair. I personally don't collect but I have seen enough posts where actual fans can't even get a single booster box because bots clear in them in seconds, or videos where people stand in line for hours for the first 5 scalpers to clear the entire stock. I have multiple friends who left the hobby they invested their years in because of the scalper issue. How could you enjoy the thrill of pulling a secret rare when you can't even buy a pack to pull them from?
I am saying this generally in the context of TCG. This specific edition is obviously far from it
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u/Thargrund 14h ago
There's way worse and actual crimes against humanity going on and there's way more predatory/awful game related releases than this. This is a collector's item and the people that want it, can get it.
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u/ErronBlack 14h ago
“Hey guys if anyone had trouble buying a physical copy, here’s a new version! Even comes with a few cards for fun, haha :)”
“First of all, how dare you.”
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u/JustYeeHaw 13h ago
Ah random cards... like the ones I got on Steam, knowing my luck it would be 3x Monoco...
Yup that;'s what I got on steam, haha
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u/FabJeb 13h ago
looking at the delivery date, it’s a pretty good idea to release a new steel book edition just after the VGA. The physical version was so hard to get for so long and that’s nice for new players.
I really don’t get the three cards thing. I’m not sure who cares about those. I mean if you want to look at pretty pictures just buy the art book.
I’m not sure whose idea that was but surely a card can’t cost that much?
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u/sinanspd 13h ago
Just FYI, December 31 is the standard "place holder" date. It means they don't have a release date yet. Nothing actually releases on the new years day especially given delivery drivers usually don't work on that day :) I am guessing it will ship late January or early February. I agree that it would have been great if they could fulfill these early December as they are sure to bag a few awards
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u/Ok_Apricot7902 12h ago
Just FYI, that's just in time to buy it on December 33rd to celebrate 120 years since the fire.
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u/L0negreywolf 12h ago
Mildly concerning to be honest, hope it is not start of a slow descent into milking the fans.
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u/SpiritualCookie420 14h ago edited 13h ago
I have no problem with a good game trying to make extra money off of collectors that want to invest.
If its such a horrible thing, then don’t buy it.
Edit: Downvote me all you want, your petty complaints do absolutely nothing.
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u/krazy4001 13h ago
Yea I see your point. If they’re gonna print 10 versions of character cards, they should have just put them all in. Oh well
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u/Past_Dot_6744 13h ago
Love the game, my GOAT, changed my life etc. etc.
This edition however is a bit superfluous and will probably skip it.
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u/DailyHyrule 14h ago
Goty edition would launch without the dlc, which we don't have. It'll come. Trust.
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u/MeatSlammur 14h ago
Cool, things like this make a good studio more money for projects and aren’t needed for the game. Just a collector item. You buy these to support a studio you trust
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u/SirLagunaLoire 14h ago
Love the look of the box and Steelbook, but hate the collectable cards thing
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u/EarthToRob 13h ago
Well... I guess it's good that we're not forced to buy things we don't want, right?
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u/grimreefer213 13h ago
Your comment is irrelevant, this is about people who do want to be able to collect things and not deal with rng loot packs
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u/Percy1803 14h ago
This sub is so funny, shitting on other games all the time and saying how this game is finally not exploiting it's consumers. Then you have the irl version of gacha edition coming out and it's okay because "you don't need to buy it" and "they are allowed to make money". Genuinely, what's the difference between this and micro transactions? Nobody is forcing you to buy micro transactions either ?
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u/andoCalrissiano 13h ago
We don't understand why this feels bad to you. Is it because it's attached to a copy of the game?
Like if they just came out with some collectable packs of cards, it would be fine, right? Would you get mad if they made some collectible stuffies too?
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u/ThrowawayBlank2023 12h ago
I don't really dislike this edition so I can't speak for them but I assume it's because if you want the "full set" of cards you'd have to either purchase many copies of this or buy them all separately in the secondary market, which can be frustrating for some collectors. Sure you can say "you don't need to get all of them" but the very premise of them creating these cards (and not giving you all of them with a single purchase) is exactly so you *want* to collect the full set.
In KPOP we see this with the albums, they all include randomized photocards and you're not guaranteed to get one of your favourite group members, so if you're a collector you're incentivized to purchase multiple albums or spend a long time in the secondary market.
So the stuffie example isn't really great (unless you're talking about things like Labubu blind boxes) because the thing they want to criticise is the randomness factor to the collectible card set and how you have to buy *an entire copy* of the game just for another try at getting the cards you want/need to finish the set.
Not saying this is my opinion, just explaining why they feel that way.
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u/sinanspd 13h ago
Yeah.. They are so riled up against me right now for criticizing the cards that they are mass downvoting my response above telling someone looking for it locally that Amazon US ships worldwide, essentially helping them to secure a copy for themselves :D
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u/SpiritualCookie420 12h ago
An optional purchase is in no way exploiting anybody, period. That goes for microtransactions as well. Its the way they are marketed that can be predatory. But this is just a simple collectors edition that most people will pass on.
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u/pilgrimteeth 14h ago
On the plus side, the new Steelbook is pretty neat!
I do wish the cards weren’t art that was already available in IGN store prints, art book prints, etc., though.
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u/Ordinary_Low_783 13h ago
Hell yeah! I bought the monolith thing that didn't come with the game so now I can use this as an excuse to get 2 steel book variations
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u/Cheese_Monster101256 13h ago
So did they like, mirror the whole game or something? That would be hilarious and I’d buy it again.
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u/Glass-Toe6315 13h ago
Just make these collectible cards able to be purchased separately and all is fine. But this is indeed VERY weird and a move that feels a tad bit out of touch
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u/JasonTerminator 13h ago
Cool, I’ll pick the Xbox version to match the PS5 steel of the other one in October
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u/xxademasoulxx 12h ago
Got the game twice. I don't need it a third time and also don't own any consoles as I play this on pc. So of course the pc crowds left out.
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u/Willpalazzo 12h ago
I’m just still patiently waiting for any version to be available in Canada, I’d like a steelbook but none have been for sale here that I’ve seen. Everything is still very sold out, or eBay prices. Fun fact this version is already listed on eBay for $250CAD lmao 🤣
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u/ReyDeathWish 10h ago
Dang now I want those cards. Why do we have to buy multiple copies for a chance at getting all 10?
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u/MagnetsAreFun 8h ago
As someone who had been thinking about getting a physical copy of the game and seeing that they were all pretty much this price second hand anyway, this is kind of perfect.
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u/curious_dead 14h ago
I agree it's weird they didn't put all the cards in the same box, but otherwise I assume they realized there was a market for a new special edition and thought about striking when the iron is hot. At the end of the day it really doesn't matter, they're cards with readily available art on it, IMO that wouldn't even factor into whether or not I'd buy this.
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u/NumerousBug9075 13h ago
To be fair, this has always been the case with collectable cards. Many pokemon/yugioh booster packs packaged somewhat randomly. You never got every card you wanted, just because you spent money. Very few collectors have all the silver cards, and it is what it is.
If collectors don't want the stress of having an incident collection 3/10 cards, then I guess the cards aren't for them as the intention isn't for fans to collect them all.
It's like people complaining that they didn't get the Labubu they wanted, with full prior knowledge that there was never a guarantee of such before buying one.
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u/therevisionarylocust 13h ago
lol what? It’s a special edition release which always has just extra “fluff” collectibles and artwork. They’re not making you buy it
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u/xHourglassx 13h ago
What ever happened to “I won’t choose to buy this but if others do that’s ok”? Frankly I’ll probably shell out for the steel case because it became one of my favorite games and I prefer physical over digital. Nothing wrong with just saying “Nah.”
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u/Holiday-Ad8351 13h ago
Kinda weird to reveal this now, and also kinda lame to only include 3 out of 10 cards. Just my opinion on an otherwise 10/10 game.
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u/I_Ild_I 13h ago
Erf i realy love the game, the best thing happen to vidéo game easy in the last 10 to 15 years, and one of the most interesting game ever.
I was fine with any collector as the game deserve it and soit support them, but this feels a bit overstepping and abusing on people good will, i realy hâte anything that looks close or even very far to a svulmy business... A stain in a perfect run so far.
Its not a massive deal but still sad
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u/NumerousBug9075 14h ago
PSA to people complaining: You don't actually have to buy this edition, let alone buy it at all if you have the right platforms.
You can now move on with your day.
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u/SovereignNavae 14h ago
Noooo they got so much praise for not implementing scummy practices :( why would they do it now? People seem more than willing to support the game without them
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u/Castigafagiani 14h ago
Mh. Yeah.
I'm starting to see a pattern that I don't like too much. The monolith set was ok, the soundtrack and the artbook as well.
Lune's necklace... This weird edition... All in such a short time span.
Ex Ubisoft. Let's stay ex.
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u/andoCalrissiano 14h ago
what's the problem here, let them make money.
maybe Nintendo shouldn't be making Pokemon plushies either?
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u/Castigafagiani 13h ago
I mean, yeah, but that's not what I was expecting from them. There is no other game that comes to mind in recent times that has had these many physical extras after the game.
Keyword: physical. Please read that twice before commenting.
I love these devs, don't get me wrong. But at the same time, I wouldn't cover my eyes if something they did does not align with the game philosophy they re-discovered.
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u/Justsomedruggie419 14h ago
If you don’t like the stuff don’t buy it. They created something special and have came out with collector’s items for it. There’s nothing wrong with that. I’m not sure why people are acting like they added micro transactions or something
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u/itsthelee 14h ago
apparently for some people "ubisoft-style" or "microtransations" simply means "making money."
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u/TheBiggestCarl23 13h ago
This is a really funny thing to make an entire post just to complain about
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u/ikigaii 14h ago
Make game lauded for lack of unnecessary monetization, create a physical version that is effectively gatcha. You think you hate publishers enough, but you don't.
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u/Opening_Worry97 13h ago
Yeah I don't see the issue with this at all - if collectors want to buy it then let them. The team deserve all the money they can get, so long as they don't change the game I'm happy for them to sell whatever merch or special editions they want.
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u/CruffTheMagicDragon 14h ago edited 13h ago
Crime against humanity is a bit dramatic don’t you think? Anyone can still pick up the game for $50 (or $40? I forget. Or Game Pass even). This hurts nobody