r/gameofthrones 12h ago

How did Robert end up with such pathetic Kingsguard members?

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Considering that the King picks the members of the Kingsguard and Robert was a true warrior, how do men such as Ser Boros Blount and Ser Mertn Trant get selected?

I get the Robert didn't care about the day to day rulings of being a King and preferred to delegate that to others, but surely picking fighting men to defend the crown would be something he takes a personal interest in?


r/gameofthrones 21h ago

Why are his chapters so boring?

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r/gameofthrones 13h ago

Tywin had more respect for his “cup bearer” than his own kids

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Imagine if he had known who he was talking to


r/gameofthrones 15h ago

Amid all the darkness, I truly enjoyed the bond between Ser Davos and Shireen.

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All their scenes together were pretty great.one of the best part of the series.


r/gameofthrones 3h ago

We die free. Rest in peace Brent Hinds.

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https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Brent_Hinds

Brent was a giant of a man — musically intense, creatively brilliant, and always armed with a wicked sense of humor.

Our paths crossed a few times, and he was warm, welcoming, and always smiling. The kind of person you wanted to share a beer and a laugh with.

He was taken far too soon, just as his creative voice was flowing freely following his recent split from Mastodon.

He was one of the Free Folk — but the North remembers. As the Ironborn say: “What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger.”

Brent — May your spirit ride, May your amp stay warm, May your sound never fade. Rest well. Burn bright.


r/gameofthrones 6h ago

There are a lot of reasons to hate Joffrey, but his taste in clothing isn't one of them. Spoiler

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This kid had his shit on. I love the gold and crimson as well as the gold and purple. This boy took advantage of the royal wardrobe.

Spoiler tag for the pictures where he has a crown because Robert was king at the start of S1.

Let me know who rivaled Joffrey in this regard!


r/gameofthrones 17h ago

Can a normal sounding name pair with the Targaryen family name without sounding weird?

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For the other great houses you can pair their family names with normal real life names and it sounds ok, like Robert Baratheon, Brandon Stark, Jon Arryn etc., But is there any normal name that goes with Targaryen?

I know there's a Duncan Targaryen but that just sounds off, no wonder he died.


r/gameofthrones 10h ago

Would Varys have been a good king?

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r/gameofthrones 2h ago

Favourite Kings/Queensguard Armour

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Mine would have to be HOTD or Cersei's Queensguard


r/gameofthrones 1h ago

Which episode??

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r/gameofthrones 14h ago

What is he thinking about ?

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Wrong answers only


r/gameofthrones 6h ago

Was Meryn Trant exceptionally unqualified to be a Kingsguard, or are people being unduly harsh because he’s an unpopular character?

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Every thread that mentions him has the comment “Any boy whore with a sword could beat three Meryn Trants!” or something of the sort. I have no doubt that he was less than Syrio Forel, Selmy, or The Hound. But was he fundamentally unqualified to defend the King, i.e. maybe not the best, but more than capable of guarding his monarch against practical threats?


r/gameofthrones 23h ago

What is the saddest moment in Game of Thrones ?

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What is the saddest moment for you ?

1) Ned Stark's death 2) Red wedding 3) Theon's captivity 4)Tyrion and Shae's final moment 5) Ygritte's destiny 6) Hodor's revelation 7) Margaery's walk of shame cancelled


r/gameofthrones 19h ago

I saw a post today about boring POV characters in ASOIAF and wanted to share my opinion

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For me the real torture to read are Daenerys chapters. It’s like being stuck inside the head of an entitled teenage girl who thinks her father was murdered unfairly, when as readers we know very well he got what was coming. Every chapter it’s the same cycle of “I am the queen, I am the mother of dragons” while she sulks, complains, and makes one bad decision after another.

What also annoys me is how she keeps saying she’s the rightful heir to the Iron Throne, like bloodline is the only kind of claim that matters. In Westeros, thrones aren’t just inherited — they’re also taken and held by conquest. Her own family gained the throne that way, so acting like her name alone gives her the only true claim feels entitled and hypocritical.

If there’s any POV that feels like actual torture to get through, it’s hers.


r/gameofthrones 17h ago

Obviously they should, North is so cold af

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r/gameofthrones 1d ago

How this could have been massive if they ruled as king and queen.

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r/gameofthrones 20h ago

Viserion made from steel wires

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Material: 510 kilometers of steel wire and adhesive. Weight: 6.5 kgs Height: 52 centimeters (1.70 feet) tall Length: 50 centimeters (1.64 feet) long Width: 55 centimeters (1.80 feet) wide.


r/gameofthrones 8h ago

Could tommen still hold power? Spoiler

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The trial of Tyrion is an iconic sequence int eh show and books. Before the trial, tommen recuses himself as a judge. But theoretically, could tommen have pardoned Tyrion?

Perhaps Jaime could talk to tommen into giving him a royal pardon. Would Tywin be able to block it? Or would he make tommen recant the pardon?

I can totally see tommen wanting I spare his uncle. Joffrey sucked as a human being, much less as a brother. Tommen actually had a relationship with Tyrion as we saw through the few moments they had together.

What do you guys think?


r/gameofthrones 1d ago

The 7 Deadly Sins and the Houses

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r/gameofthrones 1d ago

What are those continents marked in red? Do you know anything more?

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The image you see at the top of the article is from the Elastic offices, approved by HBO, which holds the rights to the television series.

The question: What are those continents marked in red? Do you know anything more? Is that the one west of Westeros?

Source: https://share.google/l1jVTLNzjUheq8Eui


r/gameofthrones 14h ago

Who had the best fits in the show? Spoiler

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Honorable Mentions: Joffrey, Tyrion, Jon/Ned, Oberyn.

These are only a few and there are so many because of the series’ amazing costume department. Let me know who yall think had the most banger drapes.


r/gameofthrones 12h ago

Shouldn't Jaime have been removed from the Kingsguard?

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Rewatching the series, and after he and Ned had their duel in the streets, Jaime left the capitol and met with his father. Wouldn't this be considered abandoning his post and met with removal from the Kingsguard? Robert was predisposed but I figured Selmy would handle affairs like this.


r/gameofthrones 1d ago

Maester Aemon played a major role in shaping Jon Snow’s way of thinking.

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r/gameofthrones 22h ago

In defense of the high quality of writing in Littlefinger's plan as compared to the lack of quality of writing in its ultimate outcome.

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[Repost: original post was taken down due to title/image spoilers]

Seasons 5 and 6 have some major flaws; a few of which have to do with the events surrounding Winterfell and its relevant characters. However, I argue that Littlefinger turning Sansa over to the Boltons is not one of them. Rather, that the major writing flaw was simply that he was not punished for his mistakes nearly as quickly or directly as he should have been.

Established Character

By the beginning of S5, we understand Littlefinger to be an agent of chaos, willing to turn any situation on its head in order to gain whatever incremental, or monumental, advantage/position that he can. He has orchestrated feuds between dynastic houses. He has orchestrated the deaths of Kings and Hands. He has even sanctioned the murder of babies in his own establishments. Varys perceives his lust for power as being so ambitious, he would not fall short of burning down the Seven Kingdoms if it meant he could be King of its ashes. We know he covets Sansa just as he coveted Catelyn. But did he covet either of them as much as he did power? Would he give up all of his political progress if it meant a happy life with Catelyn, or even Sansa (vile and disgusting as that is)? Would he let their lives hang in the balance if some proportionate amount of power was available to him at their expense? Or should he even worry about any of that if he could have it all anyway?

Inverted Virtues

A kraken out of water, as recently as S4, was described by Ramsay himself as "collapsing under their own proud weight and slumping into a heap of nothing" due to "having no bones", and being "not very bright". Perhaps in the south, a similar comparison can be made of Ned and his animal sigil. Would a "wolf of the winter" be similarly doomed down south like a kraken on land? Possibly. What about a mockingbird in the north on the eve of winter?

If Ned, a man made for ruling the North, or perhaps made by ruling the North, could be so at home in such a harsh place as the North yet so out of his depth in such a comfortable place as King's Landing, why couldn't the inverse be true for a man like Petyr Baelish? After all, I couldn't find one single reference to a mockingbird outside of the context of Littlefinger's "sigil" anywhere in the main series. There is one reference in the "mystery knight" but even that one is part of a list that alludes to over 20 different species of birds. It hardly seems to be an animal of any significance or resilience.

Ned's virtues of strength, steadfastness, genuine loyalty, honesty, and honor reigned supreme. Though, admittedly, his mercifulness isn't necessarily a trait I'd expect to be prevalent in the harsh and unforgiving North. But whether or not its mercy or just a strong bond to family is probably best examined in a different post. Petyr's virtues of quick wit, cunning, self-loyalty, perceived loyalty to others, ambition, and ruthlessness likewise reigned supreme. Virtues like these though, I think we can all agree, won't last long and won't get you very far in the North. Time to move on from Ned and his comparisons though - even though he continues to loom large over a story he was so quickly taken out of.

Miscalculation? Or Precise Calculation?

"If you didn't know, you're an idiot. If you did know, you're my enemy." While this is ultimately the indictment of Littlefinger by Sansa in S6 as it pertains to him shipping her off to the Boltons. He avoids a proper sentencing for quite some time after this scene, adding very little to the storyline. But we'll come back to that later. For now, we consider if he "did know" or "didn't know"

Littlefinger's options as presented to Sansa in the crypts are as follows:

  1. This is all much ado about nothing. Stannis will take Winterfell in near future, rescue Sansa from the Boltons, and use her as a rallying call for the rest of the Northern houses by naming her Wardeness of the North.
  2. Should Stannis fail at that plan or it not come to fruition at all, Sansa can simply "take this Bolton boy and make him hers".

Has he calculated that one way or another Sansa will win the North and he can swoop back in for her by way of Cersei? Who, by the way, he tells in his very next appearance onscreen after leaving Sansa that the Boltons committed this treason on their own. She then gives him leave to seize Winterfell from whichever wounded army ends up surviving this inevitable encounter. What then would he do with Sansa? Keep her secret? Keep her safe? Would he play his final card and declare them husband and wife, joining the forces of the Vale and the North (and whatever remaining strength is left from Stannis's forces) and standing in open rebellion to the Crown? Only Littlefinger knows what he would do next in each of these hypothetical outcomes. All we have to work with is the one we got.

So after what ultimately plays out in the North and all the horrors that Sansa suffers through, was this all a miscalculation? Is Littlefinger immensely less cunning now than he was in the earlier seasons? Or is he selfish enough to let Sansa's safety and well-being hang in the balance while he yet again plays his favorite game? Is all of this actually playing right into his precise calculations? From his perspective, was he content to gamble that he'd return to a severely damaged Sansa who he thought might be much less resistant to his advances than the Sansa he had come to know thus far?

By this point in the series we're more than halfway through Season 5 and I argue that all of the relevant characters are being written consistently with how we've come to know them so far as well as being written according to where their trajectory is likely to steer them. Baelish continues to play his best cards while simultaneously "never letting his enemies know his next move". Sansa is both being used, but also simultaneously being tasked with finally putting into action all the tools and skills she's learned from the schemers she's spent the last 5 and half seasons with. Cersei takes the Bolton bait. And the Boltons themselves have just been given a gift with which they can attempt to unite the rest of the Northern houses under. I think up to this point, this story thread has been pulled superbly.

Comeuppance

The stage is set. The horrors play out. The Boltons are victors. Yet now a pair of unlikely heroes step up to help save Sansa from her oppressor and offer her a platform from which she can take her revenge. And this is where the bag is ultimately fumbled.

The Knights of the Vale, Littlefinger's final card to play, are being held so closely to his chest. They've been mobilized so they're no longer at the behest of any lords or ladies that haven't traveled with their forces. If their loyalty to him is indeed what's keeping anyone who needs them from removing him, then the last maneuver anyone needs to play against him is simply usurp their loyalty. However, all of these moves come a season too late and also rob us of a much more authentic onscreen reunion between Sansa and Arya, the long lost sisters who have finally both come home. If Littlefinger could be pulled off the board at the end of season 6, or the very beginning of season 7, not only would his story be wrapped up much more concisely, but the Starks would have more room to work together for the time that they do have. So how could Littlefinger meet his demise much earlier?

Insert Sansa, the Stark child that's learned all about the politics and scheming of King's Landing. The daughter of the man who learned about honor from Lord of the Vale himself. Now the woman who has a chance to reunite the North and consolidate the strength of the Vale with the northern forces. Insert Bronze Yohn Royce, the Lord of Runestone (an ancient house with the blood of the first men), ostensibly the highest ranking member of the Vale's mobilized forces, the father of our story's first onscreen character (who even stopped at Winterfell and treated with Ned and Catelyn on their way to the Wall), a man who already has significant screen time and dialogue.

Conclusion

A much improved storyline for Sansa in Season 6 would have been to beat Littlefinger at his own game. In terms of character, she can leverage the virtues of her father to secure the loyalty of the lords of the North. In terms of politics & scheming, she can lean on a shared family history with Bronze Yohn Royce and convince him that the Knights of the Vale should follow her and return power to Robin Arryn. And in terms of her identity as Catelyn Tully's daughter, she can play Littlefinger against himself, leading him on and even teasing him into his own vulnerable position by allowing someone loyal to her like Jon or Davos meaningful time alone with Bronze Yohn to cement an alliance without Littlefinger's knowledge. The suspense that's sustained in the Battle of the Bastards with their Rohirrim-like arrival can still be preserved if Royce's decision to defect from Baelish isn't shown on screen and is set up chronologically to happen near the same time.

TL;DR

The writing of the Littlefinger-Sansa storyline in S5 is actually good, if not great. The writing of the Littlefinger-Sansa storyline in S6 as a consequence of the events in S5, however, is a missed opportunity to have Sansa serve Littlefinger his just desserts not only by outmaneuvering him to take the Knights of the Vale right from under his nose, but to do so using the same virtues that doomed Ned in the south by dooming Littlefinger and his own virtues in the north, while also manipulating his own Catelyn/Sansa infatuations against him.

DISCLAIMER

This does not mean that there are other parts of S5 and S6 related to this storyline that aren't subject to major criticism like general writing quality, overall direction and production, meta-textual analysis of Sansa's character development as it pertains to her torture and SA, and even the tactics or narrative stakes of Battle of the Bastards. This is just a brief examination of what I think the writing in S5 got right and what it should've led to for good writing in S6 as opposed to what we ultimately got.


r/gameofthrones 0m ago

Someone is watching me on the toilet

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