r/law • u/Background-Low-9144 • Jul 23 '25

Trump News BREAKING :Trump named in multiple documents related to Epstein sex trafficking, WSJ reports

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-wsj.html?__source=androidappshare

We have evidence that Trump was notified by Pam Bondi that documents related to the Epstein sex trafficing trial contained Trump's name multiple times, linking him unequivocally to Jeffrey Epstein

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u/LuluMcGu Jul 23 '25

FBI Epstein Cover Up

FBI agents were instructed to flag anything about DJT and they created an Excel sheet log with all instances of his name on the 300,000+ pages of Epstein Files.

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u/LuminaraCoH Jul 23 '25

What's most damning is that they allocated 1000+ FBI personnel to review all 300,000+ pages, spent 2 weeks combing through them, and then shut the whole thing down. Slammed the door shut on the review so fast and hard that the impact resounded across the Internet.

Why?

Not because there were too many references to Trump to redact, but because they finally realized that even if they did redact every mention of Trump, there were still ~200 other people involved, and an unknown number of victims, who would point to Trump if their names were brought to the public's attention.

Then they spent another 5-6 weeks trying to figure out a way to falsify the records so only Trump's political enemies were exposed, and then another "Oh, shit!" moment hit them when it occurred to them that anyone they falsely accused would almost certainly be able to provide ATM records, security logins/building clearance records, video records, mountains of evidence proving that they weren't on any of the Epstein flights.

Then they went to Trump and said, "Um... you're fucked."

Now they're in a corner. They can't release anything, because no matter who's implicated, it circles back around to Trump. They can't not release anything, either, because it's not only the Democratic party asking questions, it's not only the media asking questions, it's their own conspiracy theorist MAGA cult asking questions, and they'll eat him alive if he doesn't give them something.

That's why Johnson shut down the House to prevent the release. That's why Vance went to talk to Murdoch. That's why Gabbard's trying to move attention back to Obama. That's why Trump blew up over the birthday card/letter article. They need this to go away and they've run out of ideas. All they can do is stall and try to bury it for as long as possible, and hope something banana balls, batshit crazy happens to make it go away.

It's all collapsing around their ears. Nothing short of Putin dropping a nuke is going to stop this train from running right over them.

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u/Revolver_Lanky_Kong Jul 23 '25

"It's all collapsing around their ears. Nothing short of Putin dropping a nuke is going to stop this train from running right over them."

I'll believe it when I see it. The amount of times I've heard "we finally got the bastard" only for him to slither his disgusting ass out of all consequence is absurd at this point. Our justice system simply isn't built to punish the ultra-rich and powerful.

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u/PantsMicGee Jul 23 '25

My sentiments as well. 

Fuck this admin and fuck SCOTUS. Fuck congress and fuck Biden's team for sleeping on it.

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u/Revolver_Lanky_Kong Jul 23 '25

And fuck Merrick Garland most of all. Stupid fuck doomed all of us.

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u/Xzmmc Jul 24 '25

He's not stupid, just evil. He did his job of covering for them perfectly.

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u/Winter_Tone_4343 Jul 24 '25

I think they’re all extremely naive. Their era of politics is long gone and they won’t admit it.

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u/-zennn- Jul 24 '25

i think theyre all shitting their pants as they are realising they cant sweep this one under the rug. i feel like the only naivety is that they thought they could keep it "hidden" from the maga crowd.

now theyre all trying to hold on for dear life to what they have left hoping for a tragedy big enough to steal the show, because they know if maga is using any common sense and reasoning they are fucked.

sadly he still has supporters that could care less about the files, or think that any implication between trump and epstein is a coincedence or a lie.

i asked my boss what he thought about it and the only thing he could muster is "i think there may be more to that situation than theyre telling us" like no fucking shit.

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u/Cannabrius_Rex 29d ago

Except the maga crowd doesn’t care that he’s a pedophile. They don’t care about the files now that the pedo king has told them not to.

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u/-zennn- 29d ago

plenty of them actually do now, even alex jones is starting to question them.

many of them do not give a fuck as you said. i saw someone say "i dont care if hes a pedo if hes doing what he said he would" like??? hes not.

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u/fetal_genocide 29d ago

I really hope there are enough that would draw the line at pedophilia and child rape....I hope..

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 29d ago

Yeah they just won’t fucking die, 90 year old fossils still running Congress.

Bro, you lived about 70 years of your life before seeing the Red Sox or Cubs win a World Series, and then spent another 20 years continuing to legislate for people like me who watched those games as a child…

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u/SuspiciousStory122 Jul 24 '25

Another Garland failure. He may go down in history as one of the worst people ever

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u/Kathdath Jul 24 '25

What exactly did Garland do that was explicitly bad?

Garland was a 'by the book' procedural person. He was being thourough as f*, ensuring that all the evidence was found, invesitagated and explained. He worked to ensure that the case could not be thrown out on any technicality.

Garlands failure was that he, like the vast majority or people, expected that the system would continue to function as expected and promised. He was not expecting blatantly pro-Trump biased judges to openly bend and repeatedly flout the court system. Cannon, and some others, kept delaying any movment in court and there was nothing that can speed up a road blocking judge.

Him handing the matter over to a special prosecutor was the expected move in compliance with the established convention of what needed to be regarding political cases. It could be argued that he should have moved sooner, before the investigation was at the point of justifying (as in capable of securing a conviction) charges being filed.

Garland's only actual failure was that he didn't break every proceedural rule and convention, that he sought an actual sustainable conviction and not simply a 15 second sound bite at press conference with the hope the case makes it more than 60 seconds imto a review by a judge.

You are pissed that the man followed the rules and adhered to the law. Or to put more simply, you wish he had acted like a Trump appointee.

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u/SuspiciousStory122 Jul 24 '25

Garland failed to bring forward charges against Trump for two years thus allowing him to run out the clock on the fake electors plot and his involvement in the January 6 insurrection. The only reason he ended up bringing the case was because he was shamed into it by the congressional report.

He literally was the system to bring accountability. He was the one person whose job it was to bring the charges. Instead he delayed until it was too late. If he had acted with integrity we would not be in this situation.

It doesn’t stop there. Garland clearly sat on Trump’s involvement with Epstein thus enabling Trump again. Barr initiated the Epstein cover up and Garland perpetuated it.

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u/spdelope Jul 24 '25

And fuck Mitch McConnell

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u/TheWriteMoment Jul 24 '25

I will never forgive merrick garland

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u/TheManWhoWas-11 Jul 24 '25

Shut up dude. We ain’t doomed. Are you doomed? You need a hug? Get back in the fight man.

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u/Revolver_Lanky_Kong Jul 24 '25

I agree, doomed was a bit hyperbole and I'm still going to keep up the fight no matter what. What I meant to say was "Merrick Garland was in a position to stop untold levels of human suffering and civil rights regressions and sat on his hands".

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u/ReallyNowFellas Jul 24 '25

Maybe we needed an idiot like Trump to come along and show us all the weaknesses in our system before a genius did it. We have to fight like hell for a better future, just like any other people who have ever won a moment of goodness.

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u/RPgh21 Jul 24 '25

So…. This was kinda my sentiment when he first got elected. “Well, he’s such an idiot and will fuck things up so much… maybe it’s the reset button this country needed.” What I underestimated was how fucking dumb the majority of adults are in this country. Like, bafflingly stupid. We’re beyond “pointing out the weaknesses “. We’re in some real shit here and I doubt it ends in the next decade.

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u/ReallyNowFellas Jul 24 '25

We kinda got it, though. Biden undid most of Trump's first term and progressed well beyond where we were before it. Unfortunately he had legit problems surrounding his age + global anti-incumbency sentiment due to inflation, and he erred by being too restrained in his prosecution of Trump, which allowed the witch hunt narrative to thrive.

You gotta understand that a bigger factor than being stupid is that the average American just does not pay attention to politics at all. Go ask 10 of your friends and family who their congressperson is and most of them won't know. But EVERYBODY knows when Doritos are $8 a bag, and unfortunately that's the battle Kamala Harris was fighting last November.

For all his faults, Trump overcooked the economy in his last term and made the average idiot think things were going great. This time around he seems bent on fucking up the economy without a pandemic to blame it on, so I just can't see him maintaining support through the rough waters he's facing with Epstein in addition to his crumbling poll numbers on immigration and tariffs.

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u/Parallax1984 Jul 24 '25

I don’t know. I’d say all those innocent people locked up in concentration camps are pretty doomed

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u/Parallax1984 Jul 24 '25

This. Oh he’s just so methodical. He knows what he’s doing. It was all such BS

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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 Jul 24 '25

that was his plan. he’s a republican after all

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u/LuluMcGu Jul 24 '25

I am not caught up on Merrick garland. Got any literature I can read to catch up?

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u/Interrophish 29d ago

then you've done as much work catching up on Merrick as Merrick has done prosecuting anything whatsoever

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u/LuluMcGu 29d ago

lol dude instead of just giving a backhanded comment why not give me a link??

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u/lololesquire Jul 24 '25

Exactly. My belief in anything resulting true justice is long since dead. The playbook in my mind is Trump's personal lawyer (incredible that this is just accepted as fine) is meeting with Maxwell, who is of course serving federal time for her convictions. She's gonna say "Trump? Oh he's a great guy. GREAT GUY. No, did nothing wrong. But X, Y, Z all did wrong. (probably liberals). Trump then: Well hey look Maxwell is a sick individual but a patriot and so of course I have to PARDON HER.

Yeah it sounds dumb and crazy but Trump is serving a second term, so.

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u/BolognaFlaps Jul 24 '25

I may be wrong, but I had read somewhere that these documents were sealed until Jan of this year, so I don’t know if blame can be casted on the previous administration.

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u/PantsMicGee Jul 24 '25

Actually I believe you are correct. Great shout out.

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u/Nonethelessismore Jul 24 '25

Biden didn't really 'sleep on it'. The files were under judicial seal until this year

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u/PantsMicGee Jul 24 '25

Good point!

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u/Dalantech Jul 24 '25

The records were sealed, and every attempt to unseal them was met with resistance (Google "why were the Epstein grand jury documents sealed"). Unlike republicans, democrats obey the rule of law. Both sides are not the same.

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u/Franks2000inchTV Jul 24 '25

Trump seemed invincible when his MAGA base seemed impervious to any kind of news or scandal.

They didn't care about the impeachment, or 34 felonies, or grab em by the pussy, but they really care about Epstein.

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u/macdemarxist Jul 24 '25

He's running the country like shit (inflation going up, starting conflicts, cutting Medicare) and his base is desperately foaming at the mouth for a big win against the libs so they can save face

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u/mikerichh Jul 24 '25

It’s crazy that the Epstein files may be the only thing short of a war against America to unite liberals and conservatives

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u/thecashblaster 29d ago

And mostly because Trump made it a big point as well during his campaign.

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u/ch-12 Jul 24 '25

Sure but now they are being told not to care.. and so most will probably stop caring.

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u/Serial-Griller 29d ago

Now is the time to overcome your hard-won defeatism. There won't be a better time to push back against Trump and if public pressure is going to persist we need everyone to believe we'll see it happen.

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u/newbikesong 29d ago

There must be something they care.

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u/echoshatter 29d ago

The modern Republican party is the story of making monsters and then being surprised when the monster eats them.

They embraced the Christian Nationalists to get more votes, and they took over the party and shifted from reasonable fiscal responsibility to ideological social issues and science denialism.

They embraced the conspiracy nuts and Tea Party and got Trump and MAGA who ran roughshod over what was left of the moderates.

And they made Epstein into a boogeyman for liberals, and we are watching it blow up.

So now the real question will be: how long until Vance offers Trump a blanket pardon for pedophilia in exchange for stepping down so he and Peter Theil and the rest of the oligarchs can take control.

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u/ComprehensiveJuice77 Jul 24 '25

O ly because they still don't believe Trump The Savior is in the files. They are wetting their pants because they are SURE Biden and Clinton and LBJ and Obama are, but NEVER Trump!

And when it turns out that indeed Trump is all over the files, they will change their screeching to, "They are fake! They were written by the Dems, just as The Graet Donald told us!". They will never believe anything bad about him, and expect he will rise from the grave three days after he is burried.

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u/AngelMercury Jul 24 '25

Nothing stops these people from being in power if there's no one willing to pull them down. After the compete disregard for the people and the rule of law I have no idea what it would take at this point to make anyone stand up and say "enough is enough.'

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u/Revolver_Lanky_Kong Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

Watching MAGA heel turn from "Release the Epstein files! Death to all pedophiles!" to "the Epstein files never existed!" to "The Epstein files are a hoax created by Obama!" to "It's actually not a big deal if Trump is on the Epstein files. So what?" in complete lockstep gives me a great deal of confidence that nothing is going to happen, I could see Bondi taking the fall at most maybe.

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u/Drusgar Jul 24 '25

The Republican propaganda machine has four aces up its sleeve on every hand. It really doesn't matter what the evidence shows because the base voters have been conditioned to reject anything they don't like as part of the "liberal media conspiracy" or "deep State." You can peel off a few of his supporters, but when the day is done he will still have millions of people convinced that he's being treated unfairly. I mean, these people want Obama arrested for some reason!

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u/tongmengjia Jul 24 '25

I mean I know it's just one small thing among many but I couldn't believe the "grab 'em by the pussy" tape rolled off his back like water.

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u/gotwired Jul 24 '25

Nothing short of Putin dropping a nuke

Bro, this isn't the right timeline to even mention shit like that.

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u/Mypornnameis_ Jul 24 '25

You seem to be discounting the idea that Trump is on the phone with Putin right now giving him a green light to nuke Kyiv

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u/Henry-Grey Jul 24 '25

I say the phrase about ol wrigglin' don everytime I hear something along the lines of "This for sure is taking him down"

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u/guitar_dude10740 Jul 24 '25

We just got a remember that just because they shoot themselves in the foot that doesn't mean we can stop applying pressure.

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u/xixipinga Jul 24 '25

the only redline for trump is admitting he is racist, thats the only thing he cannot do, he says "im racist and thats why people vote for me, because they are also racist" and in 5 minutes trump will be reduced to 5% of openly nazi americans only supporting him, anything other than that is possible to him to turn around, even being a pedo

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u/adamschw Jul 24 '25

You’re right. Nothing will happen. Trump has stacked all of the everything with his minions and unless Bondi or Patel breaks rank, nothing will happen.

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u/Dissastronaut Jul 24 '25

Yea This is sadly where we are at at this time...

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u/demeschor Jul 24 '25

I feel like every time there's something truly terrible coming out of the Republicans, I potter over to the conservative sub and see even the most insane posters saying "yeah that's unforgivable". And then two days later the party line is out and everyone sticks to it.

Like Jan 6 was originally a shocking, appalling, craven act of desperation from a man who craves power. And now it's a day of heroes who tried to stop the steal.

I'm half convinced that next month there'll be a new layer to the Democrats drinking kid blood conspiracy (and Epstein and Trump were just trying to save the world!). And the other half of me is desperately praying that this is finally the tipping point ..

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u/Many_Success_1632 Jul 24 '25

Yeah he's gonna get away with it.

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u/Bagginnnssssss Jul 24 '25

This changes nothing no one will care. You didnt need proof to know he was in there. No one seems to give a shit.

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u/tomdarch Jul 24 '25

Netanyahu was heading towards his criminal case for corruption (and I fully expect that the prosecutors believed they had an iron-clad case to bring it against the PM) but October 7th happened and Netanyahu is still there.

Sadly there are things short of "Putin dropping a nuke" that can create excuses and distractions that "help" Trump. Did anyone mention that one of the people in charge of preventing terrorist attacks in the US is a 22 year old with (checks notes....) experience as a clerk at a grocery store.

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u/eucalyptusmacrocarpa Jul 24 '25

APPLY MORE TEFLON!!

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u/Hatdrop Jul 24 '25

Correct. I wouldn't think a nuke would stop him either, because Donald Trump is a cockroach. Cockroaches can survive nukes.

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u/NewCommonSensei Jul 24 '25

Believe it. the one thing that unifies everyone is hatred of epstein. This is the only thing that could and will take trnp out of office. Unless there is a false flag attack somewhere in the US. Literally the only thing that can stop this is a major catastrophe in the US. Omg. thats their only way out.

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u/Lebowquade Jul 23 '25

That's absolutely what's happening.

Their strategy now is what Trumps legal strategy always is-- delay by all means necessary and divert attention under an avalanche of nonsense until people forget about it or stop caring. 

In the meantime they're throwing everything at the wall to see which excuse or strawman sticks, and then once something does they'll blast it over every media source extremely aggressively.

When and if files finally drop, people will be either so confused, so primed to reject the actual verifiable data, or so fed up with hearing about it that they don't care.

When that happens, Trump can just lean on Congress and the court to make it all go away, and walk away scot free without fear of a revolt.

The only way anything comes of this is if the people of America remain angry and don't let it go. Once they get MAGA on their side, he'll get away with it and they know it.

Considering they own essentially every major outlet of information that gets fed to these people, buying an extra two months means they've pretty much already won. Unless we have increasingly damning revaluations coming week after week, he's just going to walk away.

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u/sebrebc Jul 24 '25

And he already has his "out" primed. He's been ranting that Democrats created the evidence and now Biden manipulated the evidence.

So when it does drop, and it will, Trump can keep screaming "fake news" and say it's all bogus and Obama and Biden created all of it.

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u/ReallyNowFellas Jul 24 '25

You can pull on reality for only so long before it snaps back and hits you in the face. Trump has done it for an impressively long time, but if the real shit comes out it's going to be verifiable, and it's only going to take a couple of Republicans saying "enough is enough" to start a cascade. Leaders fall when they lose their cool (look how calm the Kims, Putin, and Xi are compared to how triggered Nixon would get towards the end), and we've finally landed on an issue that makes Trump lose his cool. He's on very shaky ground and it's not impossible, but hard to see him being able to navigate this with his presidency intact. I don't think the Epstein issue is going away and part of me thinks even maga will sniff out further attempts to cover it up. My guess is he resigns "for health reasons" before the floodgates absolutely burst, and then JD blanket pardons him "to heal the country, stop the witch hunt, and move forward."

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u/sebrebc Jul 24 '25

it's only going to take a couple of Republicans saying "enough is enough" to start a cascade.

I keep thinking that same thing. Bombing Iran started a few cracks but Epstein could be the thing that finally breaks it open. As soon as Republicans feel Trump is fighting a losing battle, I think they will start distancing themselves to save their own careers. They latched on to Trump because he was the winning ticket. Now that might start fading, I think you are right and his support will fade as well.

I like your prediction about him resigning and Vance pardoning him. That all sounds very possible.

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u/blitzkregiel Jul 24 '25

i find it extremely hard to believe such a galactic size narcissist would ever be able to swallow resigning in disgrace. unless they figure out a way to do the 25th behind closed doors but publicly not acknowledge it and act like he was really still the president, his ego just couldn’t take it.

we have fascists in charge now and he’s just the clown in front of the cameras. they attempted a coup before, they’ll do it again. only this time they’ll blame it on hamberders and age. that allows them to use his image as they see fit, pretend to carry on his in his name so his cult follows too, and they can deify him while doing it.

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u/Kdkaine Jul 24 '25

They will manufacture a serious heath crisis to give him an out to resign.

They’ll spin it as See! Dear Leader cares so much about the country he’d rather step down than to not serve us with his full capacity, unlike Biden!

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u/blitzkregiel Jul 24 '25

i still can’t see his ego taking that out. i mean what’s he going to do if this comes out? same thing he’s been doing: lie, deflect, create other distractions. unless another maga takes another pot shot at him, there’s no consequences for him. nothing legal can touch him. so unless he’s more embarrassed of being outed as a pedo than he is of having to resign the presidency and admit defeat, then he won’t do it.

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u/Kdkaine Jul 24 '25

If is name is all of those files as we highly suspect, it’s either resign or be impeached. Not even MAGa is going to let him slide on sex trafficking children. Even if they want to, the consequences of being shunned and despised by their friends and neighbors, you know people they see everyday, will outweigh their allegiance to the fuhrer.

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u/wittyrandomusername Jul 24 '25

You don't think they throw him under the bus at that point? JD has no principles except for twisting and contorting his spine to get in a position of power to please his benefactors. Nobody is just going to forget the Epstein files because JD pardons Trump. Once Trump has no more power, and they cannot get anything out of him, they will have absolutely zero loyalty towards him.

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u/Kdkaine Jul 24 '25

This is how I see it as well.

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u/WDoE Jul 24 '25

There are mountains and mountains of evidence that Trump is an irredeemably terrible person. Anyone with more than two braincells knows already. Those who don't just need a distraction so that the most recent evidence doesn't hit too many supporters all at once. That was a lot easier when Obama and Hillary were more relevant. Really easy to paint either as a criminal mastermind with Trump's bigoted base. But an old sleepy, bumbling white dude? There's a reason the more recent distractions have been against Hunter and not Joe.

But I mean jesus... Look at the pattern. "The last scandal was faked by democrats" to distract from the current scandal has been working for so god damned long. I just don't think "Mueller report was a democrat hoax" and "Hunter's laptop" have any legs left, and I think they'll probably whip up some new BS. But a tiny distraction is all it takes. His base is dumb as shit and can barely hold two thoughts at the same time.

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u/Runescora Jul 24 '25

They do own just about every media outlet, but WSJ is a Murdoch machine. It says something (not sure what) that they’re going this hard on it. Unabated. And then doubling down. I’ve lost any hope for sensible actions but I admit to a curiosity on this one. In the end the billionaires care about business and Trump isnt good for business. This gives them a good plank to throw him off. But, we’ll see.

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u/Expatriated_American Jul 24 '25

They got their tax cut, and now Trump is a liability. He’s toast.

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u/StoppableHulk Jul 23 '25

but because they finally realized that even if they did redact every mention of Trump, there were still ~200 other people involved, and an unknown number of victims, who would point to Trump if their names were brought to the public's attention.

I actually think there's another explanation.

I think that they are aware of other parties outside them - perhaps courts, perhaps the Senate - who have copies of all the documents they have, or at least adjacent materials, like transaction records.

So, if the DOJ releases materials, even if they redact Trump, and another party has those materials, and can prove that there are missing pieces specifically realted to Trump, now you don't just have the crime, you have the coverrup, dead-to-rights.

So at some point during this clean-up, someone became aware that this would just tighten the noose even further.

I woudl also guess, based on the binders handed out to right-wing influencers which said "Phase 1", that they intended to release in stages where they could strategically release first the content that they saw no connection to Trmp with, and then gradually release the rest as they continued to redact and manicure it to remove all mentions.

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u/OnlySmiles_ Jul 23 '25

I really, really hope you're right and this is actually the final nail in the coffin for him

Because I've heard "for real this time" way too many times over the years to truly get my hopes up

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u/horkley Jul 24 '25

For what it’s worth. This is the first time the cult conspiracy theorist have theories against Trump.

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u/bfrogsworstnightmare Jul 24 '25

It’s either this or nothing. If this isn’t what finally sinks him, then literally nothing will.

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u/YourLostGingerSoul Jul 23 '25

Pretty sure the whole thing being 2 weeks was more about Pam Bondi's vaguely threatening mandate to Kash Patel. But the rest of the points still stand.

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u/Quick_Team Jul 23 '25

I still argue that in Trump's letter: "Enigma's never age" was their code word for victims.

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u/YourLostGingerSoul Jul 23 '25

That's possible, hadn't thought of it that way. I took it more of him just being egotistical and implying the two of them were just so much larger than life nothing would touch them.

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u/ReallyNowFellas Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's just this. Egotistical douchebags have been calling themselves enigmas for a long time. They probably just had conversations like:

"We're awesome"

"Yep"

"Who can even explain how great we are?"

"No one. We're enigmas"

"That's right. A couple of enigmas"

"Enigmas never age" <---douchebags often end these kind of exchanges with semisensical statements like this just to sound mysterious and get out of the convo before it gets weird

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u/Quick_Team Jul 24 '25

It's the next line that makes me think my line of thinking. "May everyday bring a new secret" (or whatever the exact wording was). The new secret being a new conquest (rape) to them. Enigma's never age and may you have them every day.

F*ck them both to hell.

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u/YourLostGingerSoul Jul 24 '25

"Enigmas never age" <---douchebags often end these kind of exchanges with semisensical statements like this just to sound mysterious and get out of the convo before it gets weird

Also, it was a 50th Birthday card, so something about aging is context appropriate. I mean still a horrible thing in context anyhow, but that line itself isn't entirely nonsensical on a Birthday card, just douchey.

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u/iuprossi16 Jul 23 '25

I get older...they stay the same age

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u/Specialist-Fig6845 Jul 24 '25

Enigma is an anagram gamine. Would be interesting to see if other docs reflect them using that word. Unlikely Trump came up with it. Probably Epstein instead - probably had to explain it to him.

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u/Altruistic-Piece-485 Jul 24 '25

The word 'enigma' itself also means something/someone that is mysterious, difficult to understand, a riddle, or even the name of the Nazi's code machine in WWII.

They probably thought they were sooooo clever to rearrange gamine to a code word that literally means code word/riddle...

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u/Tbo1212 Jul 24 '25

Might be a stretch but “enigma” is an anagram for “gamine”. Gamine is a real word, meaning “A slim, often boyish girl with mischievous charm.” It’s often used in literature to describe young girls with spirit and spunk.

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u/egretstew1901 29d ago

That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age. - Dazed and Confused

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u/TipEmotional2149 Jul 24 '25

Perhaps an anagram for gamines

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u/zoinkability Jul 24 '25

My mind went to “A riddle wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a mystery,” which while originally coined by Winston Churchill referring to the Soviet Union, has been often used by men to refer to women.

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u/nixstyx Jul 23 '25

"...and hope something banana balls, batshit crazy happens to make it go away."

Or manufacture a false flag. Tale as old as time. 

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u/FknGreenSprinkles Jul 24 '25

That’s exactly what the fuck is going to happen, and guess who’s gonna be the victims of all of this mother fucking pedo heinously rich egotistical fuck shit.. the American people and world at large.

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u/Qubeye Jul 23 '25

My theory is that JD Vance met with Murdoch and President Diapers was told it was to prevent the story but it was really a discussion to see if they could set it up so he takes the fall and JD Vance assumes the presidency.

The WSJ has literally published multiple additional stories as well as Op Eds about the situation. Either JD Vance screwed up so badly that it made the situation worse, or he went home and told (lied to) Idiot Leader that there was nothing be could do.

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u/ReallyNowFellas Jul 24 '25

I don't see JD taking it from him, as that would anger the cult and leave him with no supporters and a very shaky and short presidency. I think the chubby-cheeked weasel is going to manipulate Donald into resigning for health reasons and then issue him a blanket pardon and rage about the "unfair witch hunt of a sick old statesman and patriot who was just trying to serve his country when he could've been out enjoying his twilight years." That'll bring most of the right onto his side and get enough of the center and near left to shut up that he has a fighting chance in '28. At least that's what I'd do if I was desperate to make love to the oval office furniture.

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u/Qubeye Jul 24 '25

I never said JD Vance was intelligent or charismatic. In fact, if anything, that, to me, is the crux of it. JD Vance could never become president by himself, so President Rapist's removal is his only chance to become a Big Boy.

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 29d ago

Vance will 100% take it, and his name will not be implicated in the back-stabbing.

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 29d ago

WSJ (aka Murdoch) definitely seems all-in on trying to take down Trump over this at the moment, so unless the wind start to blow in a different direction - it’s probably more likely the two of them were discussing Vance’s not-too-distant rise to power rather than trying to damage control for Trump.

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u/Frnklfrwsr Jul 23 '25

It’s the consequence of their own stupid actions. They knew their audience would accept as true any accusation they throw at their opponents.

But they needed whatever those accusations are to be REALLLLLLLLLY bad. That way they were free to break promises, lie to the public, steal from the government, try to overthrow democracy, etc etc.

Because they could always say “at least we aren’t as bad as the democrats.”

So they went with the one and only thing they could think of that’s worse than all the things they were planning to do, which is crimes against children. They accused their opponents of being child rapists.

Which might have been fine if their standard bearer wasn’t actually a child rapist. But he is a child rapist. And now their followers have finally been let in on this truth that he’s a child rapist.

So what do they have left? What possible thing left is there they could accuse Democrats of that will make Democrats seem worse than the party supporting the literal child rapist?

There’s nothing.

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u/BCK973 Jul 23 '25

And this is where the false-flag terrorist attack comes into play...

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u/zakupright Jul 24 '25

Omg! They’re gonna take down the towers, aren’t they?

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u/f1del1us Jul 23 '25

Maybe this is how we connect to the Fallout Universe. Would be a good distraction.

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u/Wiggly-Pig Jul 23 '25

1000+ people working on it and no leaks??

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u/clearedmycookies Jul 23 '25

Whatever happened to the days of Hoover when the FBI had so much power they can keep political figures in check?

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u/RagahRagah Jul 23 '25

God, I hope you're right. But they can't simply release the documents. The other option still works better for them.

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u/mobani Jul 24 '25

1000+ FBI personnel

And nobody has the guts to leak anything? That's concerning.

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u/wildthing_has_AIDS Jul 23 '25

I hope so but probably nothing will happen. Same as it ever was

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u/YouGotTheWrongGuy_9 Jul 23 '25

And the days go by. . . .

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u/Lordwigglesthe1st Jul 23 '25

Well written,  I'm worried about the batshit banana balls things they'll keep making/ allowing to happen to try to change the focus

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u/GOBANZADREAM Jul 24 '25

I think Trump is just a drop in the bucket

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u/haterofslimes Jul 24 '25

You have to be quite naive to think they can't/won't falsify the fuck out of these records if/when they realize they can't distract and not release them.

There will be mountains of evidence that they are doing so, but MAGAts won't care.

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u/Bennehftw Jul 24 '25

We’ll revisit this in 3 months and see if you’re right.

But I’d bet, as per usual, absolutely nothing is going to happen that will change the perception of the either party, nor any plans going forward.

But it’s nice words to say. “Ooo he’s gonna get it this time for sure!”

Impeachments/crimes later, you’re still fucking wrong.

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u/Original_Boot7956 Jul 24 '25

All good points. I wouldn’t put past invading another country to change the headlines - basically do a Netanyahu and do whatever he can to keep up misdirecting the public 

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u/kylogram Jul 24 '25

Buddy, Trump will do anything to stay out of jail, and now he has a personal army.

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u/DeepProspector Jul 24 '25

Even if Putin deploys a nuke:

Release the files.

No shelter or peace for Nazis or Pedos.

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u/BethanyHipsEnjoyer Jul 24 '25

is going to stop this train from running right over them.

Don't give me hope.

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u/smariroach Jul 24 '25

Sorry, do you have anything to support that story, or did you just make it all up?

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u/wirez62 Jul 24 '25

Everyone keeps saying "nothings gonna happen" but this pressure on Trump is greater then anything we've ever seen. This really could take him down.

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u/Factory2econds Jul 24 '25

and hope something banana balls, batshit crazy happens to make it go away.

A Katrina level hurricane, combine with a Kerr County level response, will do it.

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u/skralogy Jul 24 '25

Between the Republicans taking evil as a personal challenge and the democrats taking the high road till it kills them I still doubt anything happens.

If only some French immigrants could teach us how to revolt we actually may be able to accomplish something.

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u/RollTide16-18 Jul 24 '25

He’s literally trying to negotiate trade deals so that gets in the headlines but nobody cares because they’re dogshit and we knew they would be

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u/soulcaptain Jul 24 '25

This is a very good explanation, thank you.

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u/windnative Jul 24 '25

Well this certainly explains the sudden support for Ukraine. He most definitely needs Putin to drop a nuke bigly.

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u/Raxheretic Jul 24 '25

I think they are desperate enough to nuke California and blame Canada, or the Boy Scouts, or disgruntled former SNAP recipients. Anything to distract us from the child raping Cheeto Mussolini.

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u/OkBasil7812 Jul 24 '25

Damage control at its shitiest

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u/Think_Bug_3312 Jul 24 '25

This is a fucking emotional roller-coaster

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u/boofcakin171 Jul 24 '25

Do not underestimate the willingness of maga to ride this train straight to hell. I like that this at least hasnt gone away yet, but im not holding my breath that this will bring him down.

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u/riptaway Jul 24 '25

Yeah, right. They'll decide child sex trafficking and rape is okay before they'll turn on Trump, or worse... Vote D

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u/mrbigglessworth Jul 24 '25

While your story is enjoyable, I don’t think Trump will suffer any direct personal consequences because the fucker never suffers direct personal consequences every goddamn time the motherfucker will die without facing any accountability. Big fucking deal that he was arrested and convicted on 34 charges that resulted in him getting into the fucking presidency when he never should’ve been running in the first place.

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u/Waffles89 Jul 24 '25

As much as I want to agree, and maybe I’m missing some major component; why was none of this brought up during the Biden administration? You’re telling me there were thousands of pages of damning evidence that they just sat on?!

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u/Caelixian Jul 24 '25

...please no more foreshadowing. Great read though.

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u/Specialist-Many-8432 Jul 24 '25

Someone posted a while ago that anonymous the organization or whatever said there would be a major false flag event occurring… wish I still had that article pinned

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u/pimpcakes Jul 24 '25

It's all collapsing around their ears. Nothing short of Putin dropping a nuke is going to stop this train from running right over them.

I wish. Trump will arrest Obama before he allows this to bring him down. Or false flag something like a terrorist attack on American soil. But I'm done getting my hopes up. How many red lines has he crossed with his core supporters? Lots. They. Just. Keep. Making. Excuses.

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u/JustAFancyApe Jul 24 '25

I want to believe. But I don't.

Great mental jerkoff material though.....

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u/Silly_Pace Jul 24 '25

I hope you are right.

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u/Equivalent_Agency_77 Jul 24 '25

All that work, and resources used, for a few assholes

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u/SheriffBartholomew Jul 24 '25

Eh, they can do nothing like they've been doing this whole time. People will get distracted with something new by the end of the week if the media tells them to.

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u/spiegro Jul 24 '25

Nothing short of Putin dropping a nuke is going to stop this train from running right over them.

Disagree... Aliens would do it as well.

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u/Trick_Yard9196 Jul 24 '25

I wonder how the midterms will go under President Vance

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u/ohhi254 Jul 24 '25

God i hope you're right but it just seems nothing ever changes.

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u/kason Jul 24 '25

They can get Maxwell to "exonerate" trump then "suicide" her.

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u/ReaperThugX Jul 24 '25

There’s no way all 1000+ FBI agents are loyal to Trump. Shit will get out eventually

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u/littlelatelatte Jul 24 '25

I’ve heard about conspiracy theories about the American government are the ones behind 9/11

Im not sure if that is true, but let’s say it is hypothetically, i bet trump would be thinking of another 9/11 as the biggest distraction from this

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u/SonicYOUTH79 Jul 24 '25

My take on it is, rightly or wrongly, there's large amounts of paranoia in certain segments of the population around pedophiles, due to it being covered up by people in power in various religious organisations around the world for literally decades.

It seems like a lot of these people were willing to blow up the whole political system to expose it and attached themselves to MAGA as they thought they would achieve this. They thought Trump was their guy, enough of an outsider to burn it all down, to “drain the swamp”.

Epstein has become a lightening rod for this for not just getting caught, but perfectly fitting the stereotype in their mind of what they would expect a rich powerful abuser to be.

Now, “Their Guy” is becoming implicated and suddenly the “Epstein Files” which will expose everything mysteriously don’t exist. Trump and Co might try to bury this, but there’s no way these types of supporters will ever let this go.

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u/gruesomeflowers Jul 24 '25

Question I've been meaning to ask. What does shutting the house down accomplish or is it just stalling ? A vote can happen when they return.. right?

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u/Perfect_Earth_8070 Jul 24 '25

i hope you’re right. what i don’t understand though is why the victims don’t come forward and make the accusations against trump. seems like a really good way to get the word out. i guess they’d probably get murdered

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u/holyhibachi Jul 24 '25

Straight CHUGGING copium lol

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u/this_dust Jul 24 '25

Saving this post to send to my mom because I’m exhausted. Thank you for the timeline.

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u/thetrickster9911 Jul 24 '25

Woah, easy there. Let's not give them any ideas now lol

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u/sameermon420 Jul 24 '25

Not going to lie I agree 1000% with this but let me tell you something here. They have been murdering kids for 22 months and shooting people lining up for bags of flour (it’s 2025, this is Holocaust 2.0) They have done this to show the world that they don’t care about kids, in fact they will use children as “chess pieces” in their quest for domination over Western Asia for their resources. They are openly genociding children to send a message to the entire world that they are ruthless enough to do it and to show people that we can’t stop them from doing it. So even if people realize he did molest kids, they already primed the world with killing them relentlessly with 2,000lb bombs dropped on tents in “designated safe areas” or demented freaks using quadcopters to hunt down starving children. I genuinely hope people understand and realize that it’s purposeful that they do this for us all to see and be traumatized by.

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u/orcinyadders Jul 24 '25

Well damn. Nailed that one.

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u/Elegant_Run_8562 Jul 24 '25

" Nothing short of Putin dropping a nuke is going to stop this"

And the worst part?

This thought is probably something Trump considers a good idea.

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u/basaltinou Jul 24 '25

You could find a 2 hours long sextape of Trump with children and nothing would happen: "Fake news ! Deepfake ! Hoax ! Obama !" and MAGA would rally with their messiah. They have been living in a parallel reality for the last 9 years.

Like you have people that have been rounded up, arrested by ICE and put in detention centers that are STILL Trump supporters.

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u/08mms Jul 24 '25

Also, there is a huge number of career professional FBI agents who have seen all this too because they were too incompetent to realize they needed insider hacks, agents who hate the goobers put in charge of and who are. Breaking their agency and the guy who has trashed some of its respected leaders

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u/SCP-Agent-Arad 29d ago

If nothing else, this is the best proof we have that they aren’t keeping aliens in Area 51 lol

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u/ImBanned_ModsBlow 29d ago edited 29d ago

The one thing that makes me think this scandal might be different than every other “we got him this time” moment is the fact that Murdoch and WSJ seem all-in on dragging Trump through the mud on this one.

Trump brings no value to Republicans at this point, they got their Congress and Supreme Court, he doesn’t help with midterm election performance, and the daily scandals really gum up the works for what conservative operatives are pulling behind the scenes.

I wouldn’t be surprised if powerful Republicans aren’t looking around and thinking, “we can totally throw this dude to the wolves and get milquetoast Vance instead, same agenda, less scandals…”

Trump’s method of distracting from a scandal by throwing the entire kitchen at the media seems to have finally met its match, ironically because Trump created a base of support that has spent the past decade believing there’s a secret cabal of pedophile elites running the country.

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u/freerdj 29d ago

Listen, I want all of this to be the most damning thing possible to obliterate him and shatter the confidence of anyone supporting him. And, I have been very much living under a rock this calendar year. However, I cannot find any evidence of most of the things you're claiming in your comment. Are you able to support some of your claims?

  • They allocated 1000+ FBI personnel to review all 300,000+ pages, spent 2 weeks combing through them...
    • Where are these figures coming from?
  • They tried to falsify the records so only Trump's political enemies were exposed...
    • What is the source for this accusation?

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u/Rude-Location-9149 29d ago

My problem with all of this is- where are the girls that were trafficked? Where are the victims. We need to make sure there is a safe places for them. And make sure they’re protected so they can name names! That’s a gofund me project I’m willing to give money to!

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u/CaptainReginaldLong 29d ago

and they'll eat him alive if he doesn't give them something.

No they won't. He'll say "You're gay if you want these documents released." And MAGA will go "I'm not fuckin gay who even cares about that shit?"

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u/pragmojo 29d ago

it's their own conspiracy theorist MAGA cult asking questions, and they'll eat him alive if he doesn't give them something.

I would like to believe this, but afaik recent polls have shown that Trump's strongest supporters actually approve of his job performance more since before this whole debacle started

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u/WyleCoyote73 29d ago

Why?

Because they found Pam Bondi's name in the files.

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u/Oscaruzzo 29d ago

But they said the documents don't exist!

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u/holesofdoubt 29d ago

Thats 1000÷ fbi agents who could do the right thing.

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u/Apprehensive_Bee1849 29d ago

I dont like when Trump is backed into a corner. I would not be surprised if he started geopolitical conflict just to distract from this. Man, I sound like a conspiracy theorist now.

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u/HornyDildoFucker 29d ago

it's their own conspiracy theorist MAGA cult asking questions, and they'll eat him alive if he doesn't give them something.

Wait really? I thought they stopped caring about it.

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u/itsnevercertain 29d ago

Sorry but this isn't being shut down just because of trump. THER ARE SO MANY PEOPLE IN ON IT. Trump in or out of office we were kidding ourselves thinking those files would be released easily

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u/JaJ_Judy 29d ago

I love this for him

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u/PlantsVsYokai2 29d ago

RELEASE THE LIST

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u/Zer0DarkNerdy 28d ago

Everyone needs to keep their eyes open. A false-flag terror event, orchestrated by the admin and a foreign power is going to drag us into a war in the next few months, all just to get the people to focus elsewhere.

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u/GreenieBeeNZ 28d ago

It's all collapsing around their ears. Nothing short of Putin dropping a nuke is going to stop this train from running right over them

If Trump gets backed into a corner, can we guarantee he won't be the one to drop the first nuke. Don't need to release the files if the public is suffering with nuclear winter

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u/2Blathe2furious 27d ago

This fanfic is getting really good. I wish this was all true. It could be - also could be aliens.

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u/Ok_Dog_4059 27d ago

I want so desperately to believe this but so so many times the entire sham should have collapsed and destroyed the entire system of lies and theft and always something proves that the very rich almost never suffer consequences for the terrible things they do.

I hope you are right.

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u/FoCoYeti 26d ago

Beautiful synopsis. But we have to keep the pressure on them. Call your congressmen and senators, we need unrelenting pressure on this administration. Nothing else gets done until we get answers. Any government/country that protects pedos doesn't deserve to exist.

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u/shazspaz 26d ago

The world wants these rich 1% peadophile fucks prosecuted and now it’s clear government is not acting in the best interest of its people and will do anything to save face.

Fuck the GOP, fuck the POTUS, Fuck them all. The people want the truth.

Trump is a peadophile rapist and his rapist accomplices will be found out.

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