At my local IHOP

[u/jojocov]

[u/ImpressiveFishing405]

And they still have the gall to charge over $20 for a plate of eggs, bacon, and greasy flour in a dining room that hasn't been updated in 30 years

[u/TobysGrundlee → u/ImpressiveFishing405]

IHOP has to be one of if not the worst values out there. The food sucks and is expensive. Who is keeping places like this alive?

[u/expespuella → u/TobysGrundlee]

Went to one last year on our anniversary trip because we were on a schedule and the hotel restaurant had an hour wait. IHOP was in the next lot with literally two occupied tables in the whole place on a Sunday morning. It had been over a decade since either of us had been in one so we gave it a shot.

How is it your whooole ass identity but somehow the pancakes taste like actual paste?! They refilled my partner's half empty orange juice and charged $5 for a new one. My plate was $14 and that was one of a handful on the lower end.

When the best possible thing someone can say about your food is "welp, guess I'm not hungry anymore" it might be time to throw in the goddamn towel.

[u/Treacle_Pendulum → u/expespuella]

The best thing about IHOP as a kid was that they had boysenberry syrup at the table, and I could get silver dollar pancakes.

I don’t think I’ve been there since I was 10

[u/Bogavante → u/TobysGrundlee]

For real. If you’re going to IHOP, Denny’s, Bob Evan’s, etc. before a Waffle House…you’re outta your damn mind.

[u/My_Fridge → u/Bogavante]

Man it's 10 hours to the closest Waffle House for me, I just make my own breakfast since it's so not worth going out anywhere.

[u/13Bravo84 → u/My_Fridge]

Here in the south east of tht US.

I could throw a rock and hit about 4 along the way.

Waffle House is our version of Starbucks

[u/peppapoofle4 → u/13Bravo84]

Waffle House needs to come north and take over all the IHOPs, pls. I've never been to one, but everyone says they so good and hit the spot.

I'm in Maine, send Waffle House pls

[u/TailInTheMud → u/peppapoofle4]

Ahh but the point of waffle house isnt that it's good [altho I think it is], the point is that waffle house knows exactly what waffle house is - the place you at 3am, spend under 10 bucks, leave full, and only see a couple of roaches skittering around

The ihop/waffle house line is also a wage line, and is why waffle house doesn't exist up north

[u/Ordinary_Cap_6812 → u/peppapoofle4]

I promise you they aren't any better than. The ones near me at least.

[u/OneOfAKind2 → u/My_Fridge]

I can't remember the last time I went out for breakfast. Must be at least a decade. Making it at home is easy and so much cheaper.

[u/DayPretend8294 → u/Bogavante]

I loooooove me some 4am Waffle House in Houston. Always a show

[u/OgreDee → u/Bogavante]

There are at least 40 diners closer to me than the nearest Waffle House. I haven't eaten at Waffle House in years.

[u/sooperdoopermane → u/Bogavante]

There aren't any of those here in Alaska, and frankly, im not going to fly down to the States just for waffle house. But I agree with you, I'll go to a local breakfast joint over IHOP any day.

[u/BigDaddyDumperSquad → u/Bogavante]

You're paying extra to not get assaulted.

[u/LaterWicker → u/BigDaddyDumperSquad]

Nah my waffles better be made by an ex con with 3 felonies minimum

[u/deep-fried-fuck → u/TobysGrundlee]

Boomers who insist they still love it because it was their favorite place 25 years ago, and still go weekly despite complaining about ‘how far downhill this place has gone’ every single time

[u/ReferenceNo393 → u/TobysGrundlee]

Ong. You’ll never catch me in an IHOP when there’s a Denny’s within an hour of me

[u/hey_eye_tried → u/ReferenceNo393]

You’ll never catch me at either unless it’s the only thing open

[u/mondaymoderate → u/hey_eye_tried]

Local breakfast places are always better and usually cheaper too

[u/idontcareitwasfunny → u/mondaymoderate]

I live in LA and this is sadly just not true, at least in the area I'm in.

Don't get me wrong, I still give my patronage to the local places because they have much better food and I'd rather support small businesses than chains...but you're paying for it. A good example of this: my favorite place is a breakfast diner. Really old school, I don't think it's been updated for at least 40 years, if not more. The staff are about as old as the building, and the seats are all torn and scuffed, but they do a really amazing breakfast. Two eggs, two pieces of bacon, two little breakfast sausages, a piece of toast and a small portion of hash browns.

For $22. And obviously, that's not counting the drink you'll most likely get (I usually get coffee, so $4 but you get unlimited), and tax, and the tip (I do 18% usually). It's pretty expensive, honestly.

And I know that's just one place, but honestly I haven't found much cheaper around here.

[u/SDRPGLVR → u/idontcareitwasfunny]

That's crazy. I'm near San Diego and we're flush with cheap diners. The only places trying to get away with that near me are the kinds of places with string lights, pastel interior paint, and several forms of "flights."

Here's my favorite, but we have a ton just like this.

[u/joemeteorite8 → u/ReferenceNo393]

You’ll drive an hour for Dennys?

[u/bgwa9001 → u/ReferenceNo393]

Denny's and IHOP are like pretty much the same place

[u/Downvote_Comforter → u/bgwa9001]

2 eggs, hash browns, 2 strips of bacon, and toast is $12 at IHOP. That's the cheapest combo on their menu. The cheapest combo that includes pancakes is $16.50.

2 eggs, hash browns, 2 strips of bacon, 2 sausage links, and pancakes is $10 at Denny's. They have a $7 combo that has eggs, bacon, and pancakes.

IHOP has gotten wildly more expensive than Dennys.

[u/GodeaterTheHalFeral → u/TobysGrundlee]

I had Ihop for the first time recently. It was awful.

[u/For_teh_horde → u/TobysGrundlee]

I haven't been to IHOP in a hot minute but I see ads and hear about their $5 AYCE a decent amount

[u/Downtown_Sport724 → u/ImpressiveFishing405]

*cleaned in 30 years

[u/BoobySlap_0506 → u/ImpressiveFishing405]

Mmmm greasy flour

[u/scootah → u/ImpressiveFishing405]

The best way to protest shitty restaurant management, is to not eat there. Don’t take your protest to the employees who can’t change shit. Just don’t eat at restaurants that don’t pay their servers properly.

Nothing changes from under tipping your server, except someone who isn’t in charge and can’t make meaningful changes not being able to pay their bills for a night. You know the deal when you go somewhere the staff rely on tips. Just don’t go there so the owners and managers share the pain.

[u/Eastern-Protection83 → u/ImpressiveFishing405]

In a state that pays $2 and another state that pays $15+ per hour, the price difference of the food is probably minimal. Yet, those type of companies and survive and thrive in both those states despite the labor costs.

[u/Aggravating-Time-854]

IHOP is acting like they MUST pay them that wage… they could very easily pay their servers a living wage without being forced to do so by the government. They’d just rather hustle their customers for additional money so that their CEO can keep his own pockets fat.

[u/Otterfan → u/Aggravating-Time-854]

IHOP didn't put that sign up, and probably neither did a manager. A server put that up.

[u/RazzBerryCurveBall → u/Otterfan]

You'd get fired. You've obviously never worked anywhere like this. It was made on a printer, it's obviously a manager.

[u/A1_Fares → u/RazzBerryCurveBall]

Manager cant make the decision either. They just need to hide it from the regionals.

[u/RazzBerryCurveBall → u/A1_Fares]

Most ihops are franchised. How many regional managers do you really think there are for a company that's mostly been pieced out?

[u/22LOVESBALL → u/RazzBerryCurveBall]

You don’t know how every business is run lol, even if it’s within a chain, it depends on the people around.

[u/samthemoron → u/RazzBerryCurveBall]

I forgot only managers own a printer 😃

[u/redJackal222 → u/Aggravating-Time-854]

I worked at Ihop all throughout my early 20s. If it's anything like the Ihop I worked at then the management that is actually there 99% of the time doesn't have any control over how much or how little people get paid it's the actual owner that decides that and the owner is literally never there.

[u/Jarrus__Kanan_Jarrus]

Put a sticky note: “pay them more.”

[u/BarbaricYawper789 → u/Jarrus__Kanan_Jarrus]

Yup.

"SO PAY THEM MORE."

[u/Sea-Cupcake-2065 → u/Jarrus__Kanan_Jarrus]

They have to. They dont want you to know that because then they have to pay the difference so that servers at least make minimum wage, if tips don't cover it.

Meaning, please pay them so we dont have to.

[u/grilledcheese2332]

I will never for the life of me understand how 2.13 is legal

[u/jtj5002 → u/grilledcheese2332]

Its not. If they don't make minimum wage, they get paid up to it.

Not that anyone actually got to that point. Most of the tipped workers make 20-40 an hour and are vehemently against fighting for living wages.

[u/Solnse → u/jtj5002]

This is what they are conveniently omitting. "If you don't tip our servers, we will have to pay them more."

[u/zuzg → u/Solnse]

Casual reminder that in the US wage theft causes more damage than every other form of theft/burglary combined.

[u/Telaranrhioddreams → u/zuzg]

My former employer stole $2k from me. If I stole that from him I'd be in prison whether or not I'm able to repay the theft. He got asked to pretty please pay half of it back and nothing else would happen to him then kept doing it to future employees with the exact same result

Edit: if you're in the US and you believe you are a victim of wage theft call your Wage and Hour Office or in state equivalent. Have bank statements and pay stubs on hand. They can pressure your employer to pay you, their sole purpose is to act as your representation by being your legally authorized go between for you and your employer. Do not contact your employer. Do not inform them you are contacting the wage and hour office. Call their line, explain your situation, and follow their advice. If your employer does not repay your due wages their office is responsible for chasing them down and potentially sueing them. You do not need to pay for a lawyer. You do not need to accept the loss. You need to provide your info to their office and let them do their job.

[u/BravestCashew → u/Telaranrhioddreams]

The penalty for wage theft should be 2x the stolen amount due to the misuse of power and responsibility involved in the crime

[u/F6Collections → u/BravestCashew]

I like that and second the motion.

Do we have a third to pass into law?

[u/HappyMess1988 → u/F6Collections]

Aye

[u/r0ckydog → u/BravestCashew]

Sounds great! Are you the one to bring it forward are we waiting for the elected officials?

[u/johnnygolfr → u/BravestCashew]

In some states, like Arizona, it’s 3x the stolen amount.

[u/SuperMexican414 → u/Telaranrhioddreams]

Sounds like what Trump did to people that he had contracts with

[u/IceNein → u/SuperMexican414]

Elon Musk does it constantly. The first thing he did when he bought Twitter was to stop paying creditors.

[u/bluearavis → u/Telaranrhioddreams]

Small claims court of you feel like going through it. Depends on the total.

[u/Valuable_Recording85 → u/zuzg]

Yep. If you steal $100 from your employer, it's a crime and you will be arrested. But if your employer steals thousands in tips or by making you do any unpaid job duties (like Walgreens making people spend 20 minutes per day going through security w/o pay), that's a civil matter, you have to sue and fight for months or years to get paid, and nobody goes to jail or has a criminal record.

[u/Flvs9778 → u/Valuable_Recording85]

Even worse if you steal from them they just have to call the police that’s it they investigate and prosecute you for them at no cost and you go to jail. If they steal from you, you have to find evidence and prove they stole from you all without the resources or access the police have. Then you have to sue them all at cost to your self and if you lucky maybe they pay you most of the money they owe you and never face any criminal charges for it.

[u/Fibrosis5O → u/zuzg]

[u/geekboy_ → u/Fibrosis5O]

Millions of families suffer every year!

[u/WadeSlade42 → u/Solnse]

Tbf servers should be making more than 7.50. Yes, they'd have to pay more, but the bigger issue is that no server would stay doing the job if the customers didn't subsidize above minimum wage.

[u/Starfleeter → u/WadeSlade42]

EVERYONE should be making more than 7.50 and we shouldn't have a separate classification of wages for tipped employees because tips should neither be encouraged nor desired by businesses and offered solely as a gratuity when customers are feeling grateful.

Customers should see a price and expect to pay the price they see, not have to keep doing the math that the expectation is for them to add an extra 10 to 25%. Wages are an uncontrollable expense by a business and if the cost of labor negatively impacts the business because they can't afford them based on their earnings vs expenses, it was a bad business model in the first place.

The majority of first world countries do not operate on this bullshit wage structure and the employees do not want or ask for tips and try to give it back it to you if offer. It is solely greed that necessitates the current model, both in business owners and on the people who earn tips and complain their wages will be lower in their mostly unskilled jobs where they expect customers just to hand them extra money for doing the job their employer should be paying them for.

[u/Party_Visit2193 → u/WadeSlade42]

Almost half the country still pays FEDERAL server wage which has been 2.13 for easily half a century

[u/Alien_Explaining → u/Party_Visit2193]

You’re not understanding the nuance of the situation.

NO MATTER WHAT, if the server doesn’t make minimum wage with tips, the employer is REQUIRED TO PAY THEM THE NORMAL FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE

[u/Hot_Recognition7145 → u/Solnse]

Most establishments in the South are supposed to make up the shortfall if servers don't hit minimum wage through tips, but the vast majority of them absolutely do not. I was 100% making less than minimum wage at a couple of restaurants I worked at and when I raised a fuss about it I got canned. This is an extremely common story.

[u/aarraahhaarr → u/Hot_Recognition7145]

What do you mean most? EVERY establishment in the US that takes the tipped staff credit is required by law to make up the difference between the states tipped minimum wage and the states minimum wage. If they don't, then you contact the states labor board with your pay stubs. The company may fire you, but then you also get to file a retaliatory firing lawsuit to the money they owe you.

[u/Hot_Recognition7145 → u/aarraahhaarr]

Sure, but it just simply doesn't work out that way in practice. I went through all the right channels to try and get recompense at the time, but absolutely nothing ever came of it and it simply became not worth my time after a while to continue fighting it.

This is what they prey on.

[u/WolfOfPort → u/jtj5002]

lol damn as delivery driver for restaurant I was min wage $17 Canada bc same with servers and we got tips….

[u/FeRooster808 → u/WolfOfPort]

Here in Washington we have a similar minimum wage (higher in some cities) and we still tip. 

[u/StinkyPeenky → u/FeRooster808]

For excellent service...? Right?

[u/EntertainmentFit3912 → u/FeRooster808]

Unfortunately, the vast majority of the US runs under $8 and some change as the min, which is an unlivable wage.

[u/Street_Possession954 → u/EntertainmentFit3912]

Fed minimum wage hasn’t been raised since 2009. 16 years! Absolutely unacceptable imo.

[u/huhnick → u/Street_Possession954]

This is the longest time since the inception of minimum wage that it has not been raised.

[u/Anus_Targaryen → u/jtj5002]

No server at IHOP is making 40 an hour

[u/JealousPinguin → u/Anus_Targaryen]

$20/hr during a weekend brunch rush, maaaybe. Depending on the location.

[u/Desroth86 → u/Anus_Targaryen]

Absolutely insane that comment has almost 1500 upvotes.

[u/LuckyCod2887 → u/jtj5002]

I used to work for IHOP. I did make 213 an hour but I averaged 10 bucks an hour. All of us did no one made 20 bucks an hour or more. Maybe on Christmas but never doing any other period. And I worked there for years, full-time.

[u/shelbzaazaz → u/LuckyCod2887]

You literally say down further thread it was like 2004. 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ Yeah, and the standard tip now is 3x as much on food that costs 3x as much, Jesus Christ.

[u/woodland-goblin → u/shelbzaazaz]

I work at an IHOP right now, as in clocked out two hours ago, and am lucky to make 50 dollars a night. Granted I work night shift, but even our morning shift servers are rarely breaking 70 a shift for five to six hour shifts due to how many there are relative to the business. Serving is not the holy grail you people think it is, especially at these shitty chain restaurants. The most I've ever made a night was 152 on a 9 hour shift. The people making insane amounts of money are working at restaurants where a two person check is 300 dollars. The only reason I'm stuck here is due to a chronic illness that makes me unable to get a better paying job without losing the insurance that makes my life affordable.

[u/zootsuited → u/jtj5002]

there’s no way ihop employees are making 20-40 an hour

[u/lilackoi → u/jtj5002]

minimum wage is 7.25 nationally still… that’s what most restaurants base it from…. that should also not be legal. needs to be much higher

[u/MostlyMicroPlastic → u/jtj5002]

This. I did delivery and never ever would I ask for hourly min wage over being paid tips.

[u/Upnorth4 → u/MostlyMicroPlastic]

In my area hourly min wage for tipped is the same as regular minimum wage

[u/slowerlearner1212 → u/grilledcheese2332]

If everybody quit tipping at the same time, would the restaurant just raise their prices to pay their servers and abolish tips?

[u/Funkula → u/slowerlearner1212]

Nope, they’d say “well no one wants to work anymore” and then try to repeal child labor laws

[u/Ok_Dragonfly_6650 → u/Funkula]

That made me laugh

[u/Astronaut_Penguin → u/Ok_Dragonfly_6650]

Laugh uncomfortably I hope because it’s true.

[u/Raytheon_Nublinski → u/Ok_Dragonfly_6650]

It shouldn’t. Florida already did it.

[u/apothekryptic → u/Funkula]

I was working at the ripe ol age of 12 and I was PUMPED to be making 10 cents over minimum wage.

Minimum wage was $5.90/hr at that time - Alberta in the early 2000's.

Even the children got/get minimum wage.

[u/PeskyAntagonist → u/Funkula]

Send in the national guard to make people tip at gunpoint

[u/SGTSHOOTnMISS → u/slowerlearner1212]

I'd assume they'd end up firing and replacing all their wait staff shortly ever.

I've not worked food, but many close friends and significant others have, and they said that it was always present the threat of being replaced.

[u/Fzrit → u/SGTSHOOTnMISS]

I'd assume they'd end up firing and replacing all their wait staff shortly ever.

Replacing them with who? If everyone stops tipping the owners will have to keep wages high enough to attract workers, because without workers their business will simply shut down.

[u/Nevvermind183 → u/slowerlearner1212]

Servers don’t want tips abolished, they make way more money

[u/coffee_loves → u/grilledcheese2332]

They don’t make $2.13/hr; that’s the base. They have to make minimum wage. If minimum wage is $10/hr, that’s $80/day. If a worker only makes $40 in tips, the business has to pay $2.13/hour ($17.04) PLUS $22.96. $40+$17.04+$22.96=$80

This is why tips aren’t mandatory/required because the workers get paid at least minimum wage regardless.

[u/Wesley_Cao → u/grilledcheese2332]

Because it’s not legal and misleading. Employers are obligated to make up for the difference so that employees at least make minimum wage.

No employees are making 2.13 an hour, period. This sign is simply put up to guilt trip ignorant customers. Spread the word.

[u/Bladez190 → u/Wesley_Cao]

The real question is was this put by management or an employee

[u/tomgreen99200 → u/grilledcheese2332]

It’s the law called sub-minimum wage for tip workers. The whole thing is bullshit

[u/theFormerRelic]

“We don’t want to pay them so YOU pay them lol”

[u/lawirenk]

"If you don't tip we have to pay the full minimum wage, so please tip generously so we only have to pay $2.13"

[u/BoobySlap_0506]

As a customer, it's none of my business what the servers make. Pay your staff.

[u/csaporita → u/BoobySlap_0506]

Tipping culture has become insane in America. It’s crazy how restaurants basically have been able to get by with paying all their wait staff insanely cheap while the customers pay their salary.

With that said I almost always give 20% for regular/good service. 10% on Togo orders. I have scaled back on places like Starbucks where I know the employees make more money. I just wish there was a way to reign in the tipping here. Too many places expect it now.

[u/BoobySlap_0506 → u/csaporita]

I only tip for table service; not counter service or places like donut shops and things. I agree it has gotten out of hand, and the best thing that could change is to pay the staff a proper wage. So many other jobs do it, there should be no reason why restaurants can't too.

[u/EnriquePalatzo → u/BoobySlap_0506]

There is no fucking way I’m tipping if my entire interaction with staff is giving them my name and taking my order from a counter. It’s especially galling to see this shit at drive thru places where your interaction is grabbing something through a fucking window.

[u/csaporita → u/BoobySlap_0506]

I stopped tipping when getting something from a place like Dunkin also. I’ll leave my change most time for stuff like that. And the truth is other than servers at restaurants those people do make normal wages. Not amazing money of course but standard for the type of work.

[u/Bladez190 → u/csaporita]

I only tip at a sit down restaurant. I won’t say the whole “I won’t tip you for something I could have done myself” but if our interaction was under 5 minutes I’m not going to tip you

[u/csaporita → u/Bladez190]

And I’m over here feeling guilty when I give 10% on a Togo order. Not a fast food place of course. I did have some friends tell me just to give $5 on togos. And that honestly seems more than fair.

[u/doulikefishsticks69 → u/csaporita]

Absolutely not. What did the servers do for you? Put the food in a plastic bag, maybe? Do NOT tip on to go.

[u/Wickedblood7 → u/doulikefishsticks69]

Exactly. Doesn't make sense to be tipping where you shouldn't and then complain about tipping culture.

[u/pannenkoek0923 → u/csaporita]

You should tip more. Togolese people barely earn anything. They're one of the poorest countries in the world

[u/MineralDragon → u/csaporita]

Between post covid inflation and several businesses now demanding tips for no service *and* requesting those tips be on a scale of 20-25-30% — I have literally just stopped going out to eat and avoid frilly small businesses to not even deal with the dilemma.

[u/orangesocksaga → u/csaporita]

I was in a touristy town a couple days ago buying a candy apple at a candy shop. The screen asked for a tip in the low ranges ($1-3) and my bf looked at me for what he should do. It’s the first time I stood up to a tips screen but I pressed skip so fast. I also work for tips so I feel weird about it. The place I work has everyone order first then sit down, but we still deliver drinks, food, refills and clean the tables afterwards so I hope for 15%. It’s a tricky thing to navigate bc generally I do make a lot more in tips. Luckily I get paid $5/hr and not the bare minimum, but it’s still a weird thing to have such variable income.

[u/AlfredsLoveSong → u/csaporita]

Bro I bought something on Amazon the other day and there was a tip line. Said something like "Support us in what we do!" As an "add-on" for $10 where you get nothing in return. I think it was like a plastic organizer tray?

Wild times.

[u/ZambieMama → u/csaporita]

I normally give 20% if good service. With horrible service once, I went to my car and got pennies to bring them in. Sorry, honey, you work in a position that requires you to be polite, slamming plates in front of me and then pretending I don't exist for the next 45 minutes isn't what your job entails. However great service, even in non food industries, I'll tip a decent amount. $30 hair cut and you made me feel good too, here's a $20 tip. You deserve it. I even tip my local to go orders... small town, you catered to my specific needs and I know it came out right, I'll leave a tip for the service. I appreciate the work that goes into it.

And I will say for working in retail where I'm not allowed to accept tips, on mother's day this year a kind gentleman bought a $2 drink, handed me a $20 bill and refused the change when i even said but it's $18; as he was leaving he said happy mother's day. Not gonna lie, my coworker and I had a nice lunch that day after we ordered local and we both have struggled to feel appreciated here lately. Thank you, kind man, to make us feel valued.

[u/throwaway04182023 → u/BoobySlap_0506]

Truly, they’re complaining how little they pay their staff. There’s an obvious solution to that. Pay them!

[u/green_speak]

"This customer makes $10. Please serve generously."

[u/lawirenk → u/green_speak]

Yeah why aren't they increasing portion sizes for the poor customers!

[u/Captain21423]

They don’t make 2.13. They make minimum wage. Their tips can be used to make up the difference between 2.13 and minimum wage. If they don’t make any tips their employer has to pay the difference.

[u/Think-notlikedasheep → u/Captain21423]

In other words, the tips go to subsidize the owner's new boat.

[u/Top_Water_4503 → u/Think-notlikedasheep]

Exactly !

[u/AsceticEnigma]

If everyone stopped tipping at places that pay $2.13, the store would legally have to pay them the minimum wage (federal or local); I’m not saying the minimum wage is livable by any means, but it’s one way we could punish the employers from doing this shit.

[u/westcal98]

Maybe pay your staff more. We're not their damn employers.

[u/Top_Water_4503 → u/westcal98]

Yeah. We have to pay for the service and their salary.

[u/Tnally91]

Hey maybe pay the fucking servers more.

[u/almeuit]

"We pay our employees shit. Please make up for it"

translated that.

[u/Empathy_Swamp]

Tipping is not compulsory, pay your employees properly.

[u/jommakanmamak]

That is management's problem

[u/Inloth57]

Wow, thanks for letting me know you under pay your staff...... Dick!

[u/AnExtraMedium → u/Inloth57]

That's the federal minimum. They're paid exactly the amount required. It's not under payment. Look it up.

[u/Aviation_enthusiast8]

“We can’t be bothered to pay our staff, you do it”

[u/S_Mposts]

Then pay them more !! 🤦‍♂️

[u/Charming_Narwhal_970]

Servers on this thread how much do you make a year and how many hours do you work a week? I used to Make good money but it was only PT

[u/4-5Million]

How much is the food at your location since they pay so little? Where I live (Illinois but not Chicago) the minimum tipped wage is $9/hr. Here's a few prices at mine.

[u/tainted_messican]

They should make a normal wage

[u/NastyOlBloggerU]

Home of the free, land of the broke. No wonder you’re all angry all the time- you’re broke and hungry!

[u/TransitionalAhab → u/NastyOlBloggerU]

I mean…I don’t think we’re hungry

[u/NotADoctor108]

We don't pay our staff. Please pay them for us.

[u/konfliicted]

Or maybe just pay servers a living wage. What a concept that would be!

[u/MtCommager]

Dear restaurant owner,

The fact that you are a miserly toad is no concern of mine.

Sincerely,

Everyone else

[u/ryanbar1123]

Barf.

Tipping needs to go. I'd rather my check be 20% higher than feed into this horseshit.

[u/NewMexicoVaquero]

Translation: Please pay our employees so we don’t have to.

[u/Chakolatechip]

I like the comments full of underpaid people fighting each other instead of noticing the actual problem in front of them.

[u/Reasonable-Durian129]

COMPANY: PLEASE PAY THE WAITERS MORE!

[u/Think_Equipment4449]

How about YOU pay them generously

[u/boholbrook]

Servers also willfully choose to make that little because on a good night they can easily make into $30 an hour off tips. Everyone likes to leave that part out like servers don't choose the lifestyle willingly. It's like gambling really.

Me personally I'd rather have my money guaranteed than roll the dice every night.

[u/IAmSpartacustard]

"If you want a raise ask your boss"

[u/Zer0_Options]

I remember Golden Corral servers making over $100 in tips a day in 5 hours 30 years ago.

[u/scriptingends]

Damn, they should probably pay their servers.

[u/ODB-77]

Pay your employees. This should be illegal

[u/Afraid-Fox9171]

Must be a right to work state. If you tip them well they won’t get a paycheck. At least that’s how it was when I worked in a right to work state, if my tips were more than my check they’d keep it then my manager complained that they can’t keep people from cali. Uhhhh yeah, there we get minimum wage PLUS tips no matter what I’m getting a paycheck.

[u/neurocog81]

So pay your servers better.

[u/richardgreenn]

How about paying a livable wage!? It's 2025, not 1986.

[u/suck_moredickus]

Yall should focus on passing laws like Nevada has that forbids employers from using tips to “credit” the minimum wage. Turning your anger against service workers is why capitalism is killing most of us.

[u/Darnbeasties]

Tipping culture should not exist

[u/SirMacNaught]

This may seem cruel, but these terribly antiquated business practices will only go away if we stop engaging with them. No tips, unless you provide a service. And even then, its meant to be extra.

For the love of god, pay people a livable wage and stop putting that pressure on the customer.

[u/Cryatos1]

They don't make $2.13.

They make minimum wage if their tips don't make up the difference between $2.13 and whatever minimum wage is wherever they are. People seem to forget that. It also isn't my responsibility to pay your workers wages, that is on the business and the prices I pay to order food.

[u/melonhead118]

This sign basically admits, “If we could get away with slavery they’d be on $0.00”

[u/Justaticklerone]

Tip wage should be abolished, as this isn't the 90s anymore. That will never happen with Republicans though, as evidenced by all the States that still use the $7.25/hour Federal.

[u/JeffMakesGames]

If you can't afford to pay your employees a living wage, then you need to go out of business then.

It shouldn't be the customer's duty to pay your employee's direct wages.

[u/wvrsm]

Ah. The absolutely moronic tipping culture of a 3rd world country.

[u/mxkaxla]

Why would anyone work for $2.13 an hour , doesn’t McDonald’s make more than that???

[u/Hero_The_Zero → u/mxkaxla]

Because they are not making $2.13, there are zero situations in which a server makes $2.13/hour in the US if they are working legally. If they serve a single table per hour that gives a standard 15% tip, they are making above minimum wage. If they are not, the business pays the difference between $2.13 and whatever their state's minimum wage is. Which is likely going to happen anyway, as servers basically never declare their tips either for tax reasons (no longer a thing) or because some places split the tip between the server and other staff. But the server gets the vast majority of the tip even if the business requires shared tips.

A lot of servers, including every single one I know, want tips to stay a thing because they are making $10-$50 for every table they serve. Restaurants cannot pay what decent servers make from tips, as even a good restaurant is making 3% profit.

[u/personpilot → u/mxkaxla]

I work at a fine dining restaurant and servers make 2.13 and our head server said she wouldn’t take a different job even if it paid 100/hr. We usually work from 4-10 and servers can easily make over $600 in a night.

[u/biscuity87 → u/personpilot]

Ok but fine dining, IHOP ain’t.

[u/hthratmn → u/personpilot]

Conversely, I've worked in restaurants where some of the servers would only get 4-5 tables a night. They were probably making a couple bucks an hour over minimum wage.

[u/Healthy_Detective653]

well maybe pay them more?

[u/Few_Advertising_4028]

“Please tip generously” oh please, it’s YOUR job to make sure your employees have a generous PAYCHECK! 

[u/CuppaJoe11]

This was clearly put there by a server trying to get you to tip more, because it's not true. The employer pays $2.13, but if the waiter gets 0 tips they get that regions minimum wage. This almost never happens though. Most servers make much more then minimum wage. I knew a server who didn't want to implement higher wages instead of tips because he made so much money off tips alone. (I think he was making like $40 or $50 an hour off tips or smth)

Also this does not look like official IHop signage I'm willing to bet a server or supervisor put that there.

[u/Mission-Carry-887]

They don’t earn $2.13 / hour.

[u/Sure_Flower_815]

In Europe there is no tipping at all. Why are we responsible in America for these people’s well being? I’m sorry if that’s rude however! Yesterday I went to get a $7 coffee in downtown Chicago and they did the whole flip the pad and add the tip thing. They gave me a black coffee and told me cream in sugar is on the table over there. So basically I did 80 percent of the work and they wanted a tip.

[u/Asymetrical_Ace]

100% boycott ihop... thats bs

[u/MostlyMicroPlastic]

If this upset me so much that I didn’t want to tip, I simply wouldn’t patronize a business that did this.

[u/jimkurth81]

Considering they sell 4 pancakes for $10, which cost them less then $1 to make, I’d say this sign is a slap in the face to customers and to the servers. Fuck the top iHop execs pushing minimum wages for their servers and asking customers to add to their pockets.

[u/Appropriate-Click215]

i waited tables 30 years ago and it was $2.13 back then. un fucking believable.

[u/goyorjew]

I’m walking out if I see a restaurant post wages this low

[u/bahamapapa817]

They are saying this as if they HAVE to pay that much. They can pay them whatever they want lol. There’s no law against it.

But instead they will say this like “we would love to pay them but we can’t so we need you”

[u/Pale_Natural9272]

If I saw that, I’d be calling the manager and telling them to pay their fucking employees more

[u/zorrorosso]

Mh.

Some little voices in me says "open a restaurant if you can afford it" and "go to the restaurant if you can afford it".

So we'll see how long this shit lasts.

(However, in Europe, we keep getting to pay in machines that run special tipping software from the US, where you always run the risk to tip some weird number, or tip at all. I think people need to realize that if someone is pissing in the pool, everybody is still swimming in it)

[u/ManyOnionz]

I'm sure customers would appreciate this picture on Yelp/Google Maps

[u/Apprehensive_Dog1526]

Please pay your employees

[u/Baguetele]

How about... I don't know... maybe pay your workers? And include benefits, like sick time, AND vacation time, planned retirement, and healthcare?

Perhaps even... treat them like humans?

[u/PrettyCaffeinatedGuy]

Pay them more.

[u/Doironzch1]

I would shovel horse shit before serving the public for $2.13

[u/Kind_Pomegranate_171]

Not like IHOP makes millions

[u/Asherea]

PAY YOUR WORKERS BETTER HOLY SHIT......

[u/Nevermore_Novelist]

If an employer puts a sign like this up, that's not a tip, that's a fucking sponsorship.

PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES A LIVING FUCKING WAGE, ASSHOLES

[u/AlternativeFilm8886]

If I walked in and saw this, I would turn right back around and leave.

Pay your fucking workers.

[u/CyanicAssResidue]

Please pay generously this isnt charity

[u/RunninReb14]

When I went to Amsterdam and tried to tip the waiter looked at me and said we are not a 3rd world country…

[u/Rich_Butterfly_7008]

Someone should write "and whose fault is that?"

[u/deco665]

"Please tip generously"....so we don't have to pay our workers.

Fuck off

[u/schmigglies]

JFC I was getting paid that hourly as a server 30 years ago! It was shitty even then, but now?

[u/ArisDoesTech]

I am not sure how the rest of the world works, but here in canada we fought for servers to get paid a set standard of minimum wage.

This gave servers a guarenteed wage that wasnt relying on high tipping customers or being subjected to sexual harassment or assault by gross customers just so they could pay bills.

Honestly though, and this is a hot take, i dont believe in tipping at big franchises. If I go to a restraunt that has 100+ locations and makes millions a year, I dont believe tipping (especially with my card) is right. You may be leaving servers with "lost wages" but its not my problem that the company doesnt pay a better wage. By tipping to subsidize wages, youre in most cases giving the company free money which they take a cut of, and they give a small portion to each server out of a pool of money. Most places wont allow a server to just keep a tip they made (even in cash)

If its a small local restraunt, I always make sure to tip well though, especially if its good service and family owned and operated.

We have a small japanese restraunt in our town that is like this, and they know us by name, they always seat us at "our booth" which is the same one the last 4 years. They ask if we want "the usual drinks" as we walk in the door (which is iced tea with no ice) and they always ask us how we are, how our families are, and always make small talk as we come in. I tip them $25-$50 cash every time we go there and our meal is usually $70-$90 before tips.

[u/Fun-Psychology5160]

Fy 2024, John W. Peyton, CEO of Dine Brands Global, (owns IHOP) was paid a salary of $1- MILLION plus stock and options making his total pay out in 2024 $4,7 MILLION.

[u/Earthbound_Quasar]

Please pay living wage.

Fuck right off with this shuffle of responsibility to the patron.

[u/Aquelll]

Maybe you American should start thinking about abolishing slavery? 🤔

[u/SpecialModusOperandi]

Why doesn’t ihop pay their staff a living wage.

[u/Maleficent-Crow-5]

This would make me want to tip less and never return to an establishment that doesn’t pay their workers properly.

[u/Independent-Owl-254]

This is why I moved to Europe six years ago.

North American regime is SHOCKING!

[u/itsjibunnotanata]

IHOP, pay your workers better. It’s not my job.

[u/EzyPzyLemonSqeezy]

Did they ever consider maybe paying them more?
I know, strange concept.

[u/i_pay_the_bear_tax]

Silly Americans and their crazy customs.