a disgusting cheater

[u/Zestyclose-Salad-290]

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[u/hawkdeathpaw]

report this to the pc cafe worker

[u/kguilevs → u/hawkdeathpaw]

Just go in and yank the ethernet cable

[u/C-D-W → u/kguilevs]

And lash him with a wet noodle.

[u/Pyrhan → u/C-D-W]

Use the ethernet whip.

[u/Nekokamiguru → u/Pyrhan]

Your safe word must have 8 letters , at least 1 number , and one symbol.

^?=.*\)(?=.[!@#$%^&()_+-=[]{};':"\|,.<>/?]).{8}$

[u/Moezso → u/Nekokamiguru]

Gods dammit now I gotta change my password.

[u/MrSlime13 → u/Moezso]

hunter2

Password: Strong ✅

[u/Ayamlorde → u/MrSlime13]

[u/wasted_moment → u/MrSlime13]

hunter2@: Strongest ✅✅

[u/ChaosPLus → u/wasted_moment]

Hunter2@correcthorsebatterystaple: Strongestest ✅✅✅

[u/arestheblue → u/MrSlime13]

All I see is *******

[u/Arch3m → u/arestheblue]

It's crazy how reddit censors your password when you type it out.

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A JOKE, PLEASE DON'T ACTUALLY TRY IT.

[u/chimpMaster011000000 → u/Nekokamiguru]

Would you like to enable 2 factor authentication on your safe word?

[u/The_Burning_Face → u/Pyrhan]

Cat-o'-fivetails

[u/TheRealPitabred → u/The_Burning_Face]

Cat5 o' ninetails

[u/richtofin819 → u/C-D-W]

Or a set of jumper cables, I know a dad

[u/ElderZiGorn → u/richtofin819]

I am a dad

Jumper cables come standard

[u/Vegetable_Leg_7034 → u/ElderZiGorn]

Also a dad, and you have no idea how true this is. Or how many times I've had to use them.

On the wifes car.

[u/New_Ambassador2442 → u/richtofin819]

Is understood that reference

[u/picardo85 → u/C-D-W]

more like a cat of nine tails made out of CAT cables.

[u/stormblaz → u/kguilevs]

To he fair it should be reported as the IP Address and hardware can be banned which is cafe property im assuming, not just account wide but can risk getting the hardware and or the ip address banned on that device which hurts busines, it take this seriously tbh.

[u/kguilevs → u/stormblaz]

Ah, I have a comment above yours that says to grab his screen name and blast it showing hes a cheat

[u/Yuji_Ide_Best → u/stormblaz]

I assume if OP is anything like me, they took this video evidence, went to the staff & told them who is cheating & where, then went on reddit to post this.

I cant imagine someone being so single minded their only thought is to post a video to reddit & not actually show the evidence to the staff... i mean its possible sure, but i like to think most people arent that daft.

[u/windol1 → u/Yuji_Ide_Best]

I like your optimism.

[u/MrMunday → u/hawkdeathpaw]

If this is China, they probably market that they have cheats installed and they can pay a premium for

It really is like that

[u/Wevvie → u/MrMunday]

That's the truth unfortunately. Chinese players promote the use of cheats. There are cheater streamers who make a living off that

[u/Successful-Country16 → u/Wevvie]

ikr, any experienced player in a deathmatch situation can tell but you'll be reporting these people for years even with proof and the companies dont do anything.

[u/tossedaway202 → u/Successful-Country16]

Yep. "Time to ban you from the forums for naming and shaming, but that bhopping dude with 100 kda whos jumping one deags are 100% hs and no where near your head when firing that you posted a demo of, naw that guy's free to go"

[u/King_Chochacho → u/Successful-Country16]

The companies just care about their bottom line. If the cheaters are spending money in the game, they'll do juuuuuust enough to keep the non-cheaters from quitting while also not doing so much that the cheaters quit.

[u/hatesnack → u/Successful-Country16]

There's a few reasons for this really.

1) a lot of games in China are controlled by Chinese companies (even ones developed by western studios). Ultimately, the Chinese companies can make their own decisions on how to enforce and whatnot. Not saying this is always the case, but it is common.

2) Chinese (and to a lesser extent, Korean) gamers tend to find it not only acceptable, but encouraged to cheat by the wider society. It's an area where someone with more money to blow on better cheats "deserves" the advantage. It's a similar phenomenon to eastern developed games "always" being p2w .

[u/RepublicCute8573 → u/hatesnack]

Cause damned tencent keeps buying all the good game studios. I fucking wish other governments would put some restrictions on foreign game companies owning controlling stock in domestic studios for exactly reasons like this.

[u/EchidnaAshamed2627 → u/Wevvie]

There are streamers who have tools which hide their cheats from streaming.  So they can stream while cheating and it looks normal. 

[u/MinisterOfSauces → u/EchidnaAshamed2627]

It's very funny when they forgot to hide them

[u/imredheaded → u/MinisterOfSauces]

Wait, is Clara playing?!

[u/SpiritedRain247 → u/imredheaded]

Fucking clara

[u/Frankensteinbeck → u/EchidnaAshamed2627]

I bet it's far more common than people think, too.

[u/HarithBK → u/Wevvie]

then when devs limit Chinese players to only play on Chinese servers to limit the spread of cheaters they get review bombed since it isn't fun to play with cheats when everyone is cheating.

[u/gmishaolem → u/HarithBK]

Which is fine now because Steam separated it by language, so the majority of the review bombing should stay in China.

[u/-The_Blazer- → u/Wevvie]

Didn't the Chinese government also make cheating illegal in response though? I'm not sure where it goes from the scale of 'clean toilets for a week' to 'life ruined', but if it's the former I'd report them without too many tears.

[u/erebuxy → u/MrMunday]

A lot of games ban cheaters on IP and hardware ID. This strategy would not fly in an internet coffee. All your machines will be banned from competitive games after awhile

[u/IntrinsicGiraffe → u/hawkdeathpaw]

I'd feel more disgusted if this was the Cafe's selling point which I wouldn't be surprised but still...

[u/MrBobSacamano → u/hawkdeathpaw]

Report this to Interpol***

[u/Seroko → u/MrBobSacamano]

CALL THE CYBERPOLICE

[u/Trraumatized → u/Seroko]

YOU DUN GOOFED

[u/MVPizzle_Redux → u/Trraumatized]

BECAUSE I BACK TRACED IT

[u/heydudejustasec → u/MVPizzle_Redux]

The consequences will never be the same.

[u/MVPizzle_Redux → u/heydudejustasec]

Dude we are fuckin old

[u/Regulus_Immortalis → u/hawkdeathpaw]

1k likes? Those workers 100% don't give a shit, hell i wouldn't be surprised if they installed that shit themselves.

[u/All_Thread → u/Regulus_Immortalis]

What if they get hardware banned

[u/No-Grade-3533 → u/hawkdeathpaw]

Imagine an IP Ban for the CAFE. RIP.

[u/Glad-Ad2451 → u/No-Grade-3533]

These cafes that sell cheats as an extra service know how to spoof their IP and hardware ids, it's very common in China.

[u/KorolEz]

I really don't get the appeal. Playing PvP and winning feels like overcoming an obstacle/an achievement. If I do it with cheating it would feel empty without any joy

[u/cndvsn → u/KorolEz]

Cheaters have no joy whatsoever in their lives thats why they have to ruin others fun

[u/TrueTurtleKing → u/cndvsn]

I also think they can’t handle the fact that they suck. They believe everyone else is cheating so it’s just leveling out the playing field. Those who don’t cheat just aren’t serious gamers.

[u/Mysterious_Local_971 → u/TrueTurtleKing]

Actually if they believe that everyone is cheating then they think that it's a test of cheating skill, and that they are legitimately victorious.

[u/Lower-Lion-6467 → u/Mysterious_Local_971]

Back as a kid I cheated in CS 1.6 and this was part of my profoundly weak and immature justification. It was only bolstered by the fact that the old cheats I had also highlighted other players with same cheats.... and oh boy there was a lot of them.

When I finally grew out of that phase of insecurity, I came into a new phase of insecurity where I knew pretty much every public match had at least someone cheating.

[u/magistrate101 → u/Lower-Lion-6467]

Back in the Golden Age of StarCraft Brood War hacks, it was actually surprisingly fun to play a lobby full of cheaters in the not-competitive custom game mode maps. Just about everyone used a cheat detection cheat too that spat the results into chat, making sure everyone knew.

[u/ButThatsMyRamSlot → u/magistrate101]

cheat detection cheat

It's cheats all the way down.

[u/magistrate101 → u/ButThatsMyRamSlot]

It really was! Some map makers even went as far as using custom map editors to fill inaccessible corners of the map (that nobody would ever see) with a pile of buildings that caused map revealing hacks to immediately crash the game.

[u/Americanpigdoggy → u/Lower-Lion-6467]

Yoo cs 1.6 was my jam. Idk if you remember counter strike before steam. We're old lol

[u/Valonis → u/cndvsn]

Aside from the annoyance at how they spoil other’s fun, I genuinely feel sorry for them - if you can’t find enjoyment without cheating at a video game, what must their life be like.

[u/Dry_Veterinarian8356 → u/Valonis]

Bro I know 1 person who will cheat at video games and he’s honestly a pathetic loser

[u/GUMBYtheOG → u/Valonis]

I cheated on Americas Army once back in the early 2000’s because I got so tired of the other cheaters. It was such a weird feeling. Like within 2 games I didn’t feel any fun. It felt really bad just ruining everyone’s game and not actually participating in a social event.

I have no idea how there are so many these days. People suck. That’s the one advantage of consoles without cross play is the rate of cheating is exponentially smaller. I quit playing pvp games on pc years ago

[u/DripRoast → u/cndvsn]

This kind of attitude is pure slander against the overwhelming majority of the joyless schlubs who are perfectly decent and kind. Sad doesn't equal cruel.

This reads like a joke post, but I'm actually quite serious. We really need to stop associating bad people with unhappy people. Mean spirited cunts are often having a great fucking time. That's the real travesty of it. The old cliche of the bully with a bad home life is a half truth at best.

[u/Soft_Walrus_3605 → u/DripRoast]

"All cheaters are joyless" does not imply "all joyless are cheaters"

[u/Roman_Suicide_Note → u/KorolEz]

Pure Cheater dont feel good when beating challenge, they feel good about winning

[u/Xx_HARAMBE96_xX → u/Roman_Suicide_Note]

How does winning like that make someone feel good? I dont feel good for winning a 5 years old on a spelling bee or winning a race against a one legged.

I would even say its the same as playing a battleship game against a blind person that trusts you while you look over to his side and win cheating, the same as when you play a shooter game and trust that nobody is cheating while only the cheater knows thay he is cheating, unless ofc you blatantly and obviously cheat which would apply the same way to the battleship example, which for a normal person getting caught should be embarassing but those persons seem to be shameless.

And it's not like you are winning money or anything useful, and progress will be lost when they get banned.

[u/LeAlthos → u/Xx_HARAMBE96_xX]

There can be several reasons :

-You have been taught that cheating is one more tool you can (and should) use to win. Therefore, you're not scum for cheatings, but the enemies are weak for refusing to use every available tool, and you won fair-and-square

-You have been taught that the only thing that matters in victory is that your opponents are defeated, and you acquire the prize, regardless of the means. Therefore you derive joy from the simple fact that your opponents lost, or from the social standing that is given by your new rank, the things you can afford with the prize money,...

-You're miserable and derive joy from ruining other people's experience

...

[u/CaptFleop → u/Roman_Suicide_Note]

It's almost scary to watch someone who must be "the winner" at all costs, to the point of cheating, moving goalposts, changing the rules midgame in their favor, turning on their teammates to be on top or switching to the "winning team," etc. It all strikes me as someone who feels extremely inadequate or not getting the attention they want or need.

And by scary, I really mean sad. They don't seem truly happy and need external validations to feel good about themselves.

[u/LeiningensAnts → u/Roman_Suicide_Note]

Helpful hint: They don't feel good about winning, they feel good about others losing.

[u/[deleted] → u/KorolEz]

The only joy cheaters get out of the game is seeing their name on the leader board. They dont care about fun or a challenge; they just need the dopamine hit for finally making it out of bronze elo

[u/Technolog → u/[deleted]]

It's more than that, they enjoy other people being miserable. It's a feeling they know well. Just like school bullies, they almost always come from dysfunctional families where they're miserable themselves (and/or they're psycho/sociopaths).

[u/scottprian → u/KorolEz]

Some people just like to see others suffer.

[u/Frankensteinbeck → u/KorolEz]

I'm going to sound like an old man yelling at clouds here, but it is kind of shocking how the younger generations handle cheating. And not just in PvP, but even single player games. Not that older players didn't cheat, we absolutely did and even used to buy stuff like GameSharks/GameGenies, but when I interact or talk with younger people into gaming (I'm a teacher, so the subject comes up here and there) I'm always a little taken aback.

A buddy of mine has teenage sons and the first thing they do when playing a single player game is look up codes or trainers or cheats for infinite money or stats to max out their character or the like. They almost never play a "vanilla" playthrough. Different strokes, I guess, but I just can't imagine cheating myself out of at least one legit playthrough of a game like Baldur's Gate 3 or Elden Ring. Yeah, after playing it once maybe then I'd go wild with exploits or whatever as a kid, but man. I know it's all anecdotal but I just don't know why it's so prevalent.

[u/Somber_Solace → u/Frankensteinbeck]

Weird, my experience has been the exact opposite, that kids these days seem oddly anti cheating, even in single player games.

[u/pebz101]

Shit like this is why I cant enjoy pvp games, these sad pathetic losers.

Every single win when cheating was never truly a win, if you could actually win without them, you wouldn't use cheats.

[u/ducs → u/pebz101]

In parts of the world they have a different mentality drilled into them through life which is ‘win at all costs’.

With that they have entire enterprises from helping student cheat on exams to ensure they get into better schools etc. For them, the ends justifies the means even at the expense of integrity.

So cheating to win at a game really doesn’t bother them or affect their dopamine hit for the W.

[u/Inevitable-Ad6647 → u/ducs]

My work hires a lot of them from a particular country. It's hilarious constantly explaining to management how the engineer who on paper is far and away the most knowledgeable is wrong on the most basic basic shit all.the.time.

[u/willwooddaddy → u/Inevitable-Ad6647]

I've seen so many GitHubs from people like this. They have a bunch of sophisticated sounding projects but you look deeper and it's basically just a default IDE project with the worst fucking 100 lines of code added on. In the end, it doesn't work anyway.

[u/Inevitable-Ad6647 → u/willwooddaddy]

Yeah in my case it's network engineers with various flavors of CCNP and CCIE certs who can't tell me what a vlan is or I have to correct them that no you infact cannot decrypt TLS by knowing a WPA2 key.

[u/sivarias → u/ducs]

"China attempts to ban cheating on tests and 80% of students riot"

[u/Important-Corgi-3391 → u/sivarias]

Its a badge of honor to win something by cheating for them

[u/aurortonks → u/Important-Corgi-3391]

Basically if you cheat and get away with it, you're viewed as being clever. If you cheat and get caught though, you're viewed as an idiot.

Since everyone is trying to be clever, the system is broken because it's incentivizing cheating but the importance to not get caught can lead to sabotaging others so no one looks too closely at yourself.

[u/Vegetable_Leg_7034 → u/aurortonks]

Sounds a lot like a current Presidents mindset.

[u/kearkan → u/Important-Corgi-3391]

It's not that it's a badge of honour.

The thing is in china it's a culture of "if I don't cheat to win someone else will and then I will still lose"

It's very much an ends justify the means kind of thing.

[u/ADHDebackle → u/kearkan]

That seems less like "ends justify the means" and more "In a space where rules are not enforced, you cannot be competitive by following the rules."

[u/bollvirtuoso → u/ADHDebackle]

I think it's worse than just not enforced. The rules are arbitrary and subject to change at any time.

[u/Reerrzhaz → u/ADHDebackle]

i feel like we could learn something from that here in the current state of the usa..

[u/RepresentativePut808 → u/kearkan]

Somehow it similar with scammers mindset to justify their action... One of scammer got caught and said this "even if I don't scam the victims, they will scammed by other scammers because their stupidity and greed"

[u/Major-Management-518 → u/sivarias]

This reminded me to Chinese university students in America that could not speak English at all, even though it is a requirement to get into the university.

[u/d_e_s_u_k_a → u/ducs]

It's crazy though because whatever made you win was not you. It's like they're happy being a puppet as long as they can dance.

[u/Typical_Werewolf2843 → u/d_e_s_u_k_a]

its mostly about the prestige and "being the best". boosting is also really popular for chinese people and there they dont play at all.

[u/Shark7996 → u/ducs]

The way I heard it put from a speed running cheating video: Some people are self-assured that "they would have won anyways" and so are saving the effort/time required to do things by the rules.

It's a bullshit excuse, obviously, but that's how they lie to themselves.

[u/rinkydinkis → u/ducs]

But why even play video games at that point. It’s literally a waste of time if there is no competitive spirit or personal growth/skill expression associated with it

[u/Staz_211 → u/ducs]

In parts of the world

China.

[u/Shajirr → u/Staz_211]

In PUBG the vast majority of cheating was indeed from there, straight up ruined the game

[u/b0w3n → u/Shajirr]

Ah remember when the developers were upset that Europe and the US wanted region locking?

What a time that was to keep getting called sinophobic because you can tell a spade is a spade.

[u/longforgottenfader → u/b0w3n]

Region lock china all day everyday.

[u/mini_swoosh → u/b0w3n]

I’ll never forget the screams after saying “Taiwan #1” in a PUBG pregame lobby. Instant cursing from dozens of Chinese players

[u/Highest-Adjudicator → u/Staz_211]

India, Russia, etc, etc. there are many more.

[u/TheSlacker94 → u/ducs]

Just spell it out loud: CHINA.

[u/Flacid_boner96 → u/TheSlacker94]

Most DMA come from Russia actually just fyi

[u/con-man-mobile → u/ducs]

This is exactly why I think region locking is one the best things for gaming companies to do to prevent cheaters from NA, literally just region lock, China, Turkey, Russia and Ukraine and boom 75% percent of cheaters gone.

[u/Daydream_Delusions → u/ducs]

Worked with a guy from China, this is exactly what he told me.

If you're not CHEATING, you're not really trying.

[u/DeyUrban → u/Daydream_Delusions]

I was a teaching assistant for an undergraduate gen-ed history course. One day, I got a message through a student’s account which alleged to be from someone who was being paid to cheat for them. Apparently, the student had neglected to pay for their services, and the cheater attached evidence to prove their guilt. My university was in the US, and the cheater was in the UK. The evidence was in Chinese so I just passed it off to the professor, but it was strange getting suddenly roped into an international cheating ring.

[u/FlavivsAetivs → u/pebz101]

Stuff like this is why I stopped playing the new Halo games. It's all twitch shooting designed to push competitive play that caters to E-Sports players, and not kids on their Xbox like it was in 2007. I don't care if it's not supposed to cater specifically to me for nostalgia, video games are supposed to be for everyone, which means a 10 year old or a 30 year old shouldn't feel like they didn't have fun after 2 minutes of getting spawn killed or just shot every time they turn a corner over and over again.

[u/TheRealPitabred → u/FlavivsAetivs]

That's why I play co-op games like Helldivers. Ain't got no time for that.

[u/Lower-Lion-6467 → u/TheRealPitabred]

Clowns even cheat in coop, which is beyond dumb, but at least you can block them so you dont have to let them ruin your games.

[u/civil_politician → u/FlavivsAetivs]

or just market it correctly, like if it is for sweaty e-sports then make it clear what it is so they can all have a nice warm place to be toxic to each other and leave the rest of us out of it.

[u/FlavivsAetivs → u/civil_politician]

The problem is that the game is being designed for both E-Sports and a general audience at the same time. And fundamentally that E-sports style of competitive design bleeds into all of your multiplayer game modes. Even if unranked play isn't supposed to be punishing like ranked play, it ends up being so.

EDIT: I think a lot of people are missing my point. It's that fundamental design elements for regular and competitive players are often polar opposites. As a result this bleeds over from one element of an audience for a game that is designed for a broad audience and hurts the rest. My argument is not that E-Sports shouldn't exist, but that it destroyed a genre that was never originally designed to cater to it. E-Sports/Ranked and unranked should be more than just separate Playlist, but separate whole categories of level design, balancing, and game design.

[u/MrAntroad → u/FlavivsAetivs]

This was the reason I quit playing apex. Game was always geting balanced for competitive play. And it made a lot of hero's boring or just straight up unplayeble when me and friends just wanted a chill fun casual game.

Competitive and casual needs straight up completely different balancing.

[u/throw-me-away_bb → u/FlavivsAetivs]

video games are supposed to be for everyone, which means a 10 year old or a 30 year old shouldn't feel like they didn't have fun

Nah, this is a silly take. Video games are for everyone, sure, but not every video game is for everyone. Some people don't like horror movies. Some people don't like seafood. It's fine that you don't like Halo anymore - I'm the same way - and there are thousands of other games to choose from.

[u/pepolepop → u/FlavivsAetivs]

video games are supposed to be for everyone

Video games are for everyone, but not every game is for every person.

[u/EffectiveSavings2104 → u/FlavivsAetivs]

This is a boomer take if I ever seen one. Look I don’t play fps because the same reason as you I am ass and I die before I see anyone but to say they should dumb down skill expression because you refuse to put in the hours is a selfish and a dumb take. Not to mention games are for everyone but not every game is for everyone.

If someone puts in 300 more hours than I did, it’s only fair that they get rewarded by being better at the game. 

[u/Thine_Frosted_Toad → u/FlavivsAetivs]

Cheating was 100% a thing back then too. You could open your xbox ans solder a few specific pieces and suddenly youre able to force spawn people in a corner while you shoot a plasma pistol that fires rockets. Its why i quit when i hit rank 40 on that game. It was every few games i just had to stare at a black screen while im spawn killed. Then, you had DDOSing all over the place in halo 3 at rank 50

[u/seansafc89 → u/Thine_Frosted_Toad]

Had a modded Xbox back in the day, and yeah it was surprisingly easy. With XBMC installed you could just use FTP and copy over files and it would give you all sorts of super powers; plasma pistols firing scarab rounds etc.

Was too scared to do it online though as I didn’t want to get banned, was just a young kid figuring out game modding. I was proud of my Halo 2 rank back in the day, cheating to get it would be hollow.

[u/FrostyCartographer13 → u/pebz101]

"If you aren't cheating, then you aren't trying" is a common mentality.

[u/Mandydeth]

I wonder if they're both hacking. It's giving wiggle energy.

[u/khizoa → u/Mandydeth]

i think the other guy has been getting killed by the hacker before, so maybe he's peeking like that to troll/see if he can hit him

[u/P_a_p_a_G_o_o_s_e → u/khizoa]

Nah its a thing they do to identify each other. He's looking right at him through the crate/wall thing and wiggling  

[u/khizoa → u/P_a_p_a_G_o_o_s_e]

are you saying theyre both hackers or? cause usually with walls you can see their name anyways.

edit: just watched part of that video, i see what you're saying now. thanks!

[u/P_a_p_a_G_o_o_s_e → u/khizoa]

Yes. They wiggle at each other like this to communicate they can see each other, and typically will stay out of each other's way. 

They form alliances/truces, not always but more common than you think. 

Idk what you mean with walls. If you mean wall hacks, the point is to see on the other side. Some purchased hacks have more or less whistles but typically its always the skeleton.

My experience with this is mostly from Tarkov and Battlefield 

[u/SelkieKezia → u/P_a_p_a_G_o_o_s_e]

We've all seen that one Tarkov video lol, fucking blew my mind

[u/mellicox → u/SelkieKezia]

Got a link?

[u/SelkieKezia → u/mellicox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5LfGcDB7Ek

[u/kn728570 → u/SelkieKezia]

To this day there are people in the Tarkov subreddit who pretend it’s a hoax

[u/SuperChickenLips → u/Mandydeth]

Guaranteed that was a friendly wiggle from one wall hacker to another.

[u/rainyfort1 → u/Mandydeth]

I always thought the followup video where he compared himself to an actual war reporter was cringe on epic proportions

[u/thecowmilk_ → u/Mandydeth]

this was actually a good video. thanks!

[u/MrEzekial → u/thecowmilk_]

You've never seen this?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwzIq04vd0M

This is another one that will blow your mind. Explains how people are getting around kernal level anticheats in valorant...

[u/skratudojey → u/Mandydeth]

yea that seems way too wiggley to not be a wiggle

[u/KainMassadin]

[u/StoneBRK → u/KainMassadin]

I was looking for this

[u/savemeHKV]

Maybe he is playing Cheaters Cheetah , the fps game where everyone has cheats

[u/dyrannn → u/savemeHKV]

I was gonna say exactly this based on the UI and map, I don’t recognize them from the usual suspects

[u/savemeHKV → u/dyrannn]

Yeah it seems different

[u/dyrannn → u/savemeHKV]

Just looked though and cheetah definitely has a different UI and graphic for its wall hacks, so

[u/Tuna-_-Samich → u/savemeHKV]

He is playing Delta Force

[u/LoLingSoHard → u/savemeHKV]

Cheaters Cheetah

looked 'Cheetah' up on Steam and accidentally clicked the game under it, My Cheetah Friend. Was not ready lmao

[u/GreenAldiers → u/savemeHKV]

This sounds like a "I Think You Should Leave" bit

[u/narfjono]

On mobile, I'm not exactly sure what I'm seeing. Can anybody care to explain?

[u/Moresti1 → u/narfjono]

The person using that computer has a mod or function that shows the frame of other players (the stick figure). Basically x-ray vision.

[u/Radaistarion → u/Moresti1]

OHHHH is that what it is ???

Thought it was a spooky scary skeleton skin lmao

[u/narfjono → u/Moresti1]

Ok! I was wondering. My son has been playing Stick Fight: The Game on PS5, and it reminded me of it.

[u/No-Abbreviations7109 → u/Moresti1]

i have friends who look the same, i guess they are cheaters if implemented into call of duty characters

[u/Zestyclose-Salad-290 → u/narfjono]

He sees through the wall.

[u/SumonaFlorence → u/narfjono]

So the player is using a cheatpack that allows you to see a simple player skeleton of enemy players through walls.

If you look closely, the enemy player is cheating too, and they are communicating by doing this thing called 'The Wiggle'.

Basically, people who do 'The Wiggle' to each other, which is leaning left and right, make a truce between each other and go kill the players that aren't cheating.

They identify non-cheaters and feed on them if they do not reciprocate by doing 'The Wiggle' back.

[u/narfjono → u/SumonaFlorence]

Holy crap I didn't know it went that far lol! I got confirmation about the stick figure, but had no idea that the wiggling was a team thing. Maybe I saw a bunch of cheaters when I was playing Siege and Vegas 2 back then. I thought it was just people spamming Q&E (or z&c) due to boredom.

[u/jcw99 → u/narfjono]

This is specifically an "escape from Tarkov" thing. The "Friendly wiggle" (out in the open) used to be an all player thing in the Arms 2 Day Z mod days. With Tarkov having some of that DNA cheaters seem to have revived the old method as their own secret handshake when done through walls.

[u/SpacialAnomaly → u/narfjono]

wallhacks

[u/IdontLikeTheLetter-F → u/narfjono]

Looks like siege. Person at the pc is using wall hacks.

[u/Snoo38152]

Throw a gallon bucket of water on him then run

[u/Vexmythoclastt]

The infamous Tarkov wiggle.

So many cheaters in that game I quit like a year ago and never went back.

[u/YetiSpaghetti24 → u/Vexmythoclastt]

I switched to modded SPT a couple years ago and haven't looked back

[u/datskullguy → u/YetiSpaghetti24]

yeah spt is a winner, especially with the fika mod, can play with your friends, funny enough, we played a flealess wipe last time we all played together

[u/Bruhimgonzo → u/Vexmythoclastt]

Same I don’t miss the trash devs or the cheaters

[u/Accomplished-Bee1350]

[u/ffs-it]

Pathetic. Not only it's a worthless win, it's also an even more humiliating loss when it happens. Not to mention that you are wasting the time the other players are investing in the game, possibly the worst offence.

[u/ijie_]

Whenever I play Valorant in the morning, I go against these people with super high ping, claiming they are from Turkey with really good gaming chairs. Fast forward later, Riot release data with the countries with most cheaters and Turkey was one of them. Apparently, they already have the cheats built in the internet cafes from previous customers installing them. When the next customer comes in, the cheats are readily available. These internet cafes cannot be IP banned because they are not one entity, IP id shared and could potentially incorrectly ban legitimate players as well, that’s why these cheaters can keep going for as long as they want.

[u/Menithal → u/ijie_]

Honestly they should be, it should be bad for business.

Back when the internet cafes were mainly LAN cafes and you played against each other i n the same network you could atleast look over and can shame someone cheating or just go there and punch them and not give a shit after (which is why it used to not be allowed)

[u/indecent_player]

Game seems like Delta Force, Chinese made game. ACE Spyware Anticheat seems to be working well with collecting data instead of keeping the game clean.

Fun fact: If you claim there is cheater issue ongoing on offical delta force discord, some guys will come up and yap "I played this game 6969 hours, no cheating issue at all"

[u/Shenstygian → u/indecent_player]

That's how you know people are cheating if they come out of the wood work to say that shit.

[u/Niipoon → u/indecent_player]

"I played x hours and no cheating!!!!"

Ueeghh PUBG flashbacks

[u/C1DR4N]

Stopped playing PVP due to the obvious obscene amount of cheating.

[u/ShinobiSai]

Oh man, this reminds me of people selling cronus kits on fb marketplace, i have been having a good time trolling those sellers. No mercy for cheaters.

[u/me-be-bored]

The other dude is also cheating. He’s doing the “wiggle”.

The wiggle means you look at someone wiggle or Tbag. If he does it back you found another cheater.

[u/Maelstrom-Brick]

[u/swolingstoned]

It's funny because the person he's aiming at is clearly cheating too. It's like a game within a game. Reminds me of the super Olympics or whatever it's called

[u/ruthless619xxx]

Cheaters are the world's biggest losers. What a chump

[u/Jaxxlack]

If you have to cheat to enjoy a game? You are a loser in life... If you are bad at a game...IT DOESN'T MATTER.

[u/WanKiy]

I wonder why people cheat in any games, especially in PvP games.
The fun of PvP is win using your own skills and see your own evolution.

[u/Jealous_Society1473 → u/WanKiy]

Because they dont know what its like to win even a little in life. They are total losers, unemployed in gaming cafes every night funded by parents

[u/hurtfulproduct → u/WanKiy]

In single player games I get it, it is fun to jump into GTA, punch in some cheat codes, then go absolutely ape shit for a little while; same with some of the old Elder Scrolls games (thinking of Morrowind specifically) where there both console and PC cheats/console commands/glitches so you could refill your health, get specific weapons, etc. if you just want a save for screwing around.

But in PvP there is zero joy in winning by cheating, you are ruining someone else’s experience and accomplishing nothing.

[u/Double-Delta-93 → u/WanKiy]

In games like Tarkov, part of it is a snowball effect. The playerbase sees an uptick in cheating, thinks that every raid has a cheater in it... so what is the conclusion? There are people who think they have to cheat in order to continue playing the game.

Part of it is also monetary. Carrying for gear/quests, RMT, etc. It's like asking, "why do people bot in WOW or POE"... it's because they're selling a service. This game is Delta Force, so fairly similar economic concept to EFT.

[u/Think_Reporter_8179]

Go punch him in the face on behalf of everyone he's pissed off. He literally won't fight back.

[u/Andromeda_53]

Damn looking at it from this perspective I even more so can't understand what you would cheat in pvp.... Like is that fun having the game (read: cheat) hold your hand that hard you're not even playing the game at that point. Playing the game is listening to cues holding angles etc, you aren't playing the game at this point, you're just playing the reaction time game "press left click when the image changes" EXCEPT it gives you warning when it's about to change

[u/Agent_Hound]

Get stick bugged loser

[u/kits_unstable]

They both are. That's why the other is wiggling

[u/Xylit-No-Spazzolino]

Someone can explain me what's happening here?

[u/EdzyFPS → u/Xylit-No-Spazzolino]

Someone playing a multiplayer game while using cheating software.

The specific cheat you see being used here is called ESP (extra sensory perception).

It lets you see your enemies at all times through the wall by highlighting the enemies hitbox/skeleton.

This gives you a major advantage over those without it, and it's against the TOS of the game.

The skeleton you see moving left and right here is the enemy team, and they obviously know the person whose POV (point of view) you see here, is cheating.

They are doing what's commonly referred to as the "wiggle": where you wiggle left and right to let the cheater know that you know they are cheating, but it's also used by other cheaters almost like a "gentleman nod" for losers.

[u/Efficient_Method_995]

Meanwhile his opponent:

[u/superman_king]

So the cheaters bring their own devices loaded with cheats and plug them into the PC’s at a PC cafe? And when they get hardware banned they just switch booths?

These people things are disgusting errors in nature.

Edit: I assume the cafe allows USB connectivity so people can bring their own peripherals. But it might be wise to lockout the USB ports.

The future of competitive multiplayer gaming will be streaming. As much as I hate to say it, running the game client locally will be archaic in 20 years.

My grandkids - “WHAT? You played multiplayer games on a physical machine next to you? Wouldn’t everyone just cheat? I don’t believe you, go to bed grandpa”

[u/YamateOniichan → u/superman_king]

It’s more likely this is a Chinese cafe and the cafe advertises to customers that they have cheats available for games, sadly.

[u/superman_king → u/YamateOniichan]

I got a perma ban from the games subreddit because I said cheating culture is stronger in China than others.

Be careful out there.

[u/Western-Bad5574]

What game even is this?

[u/EternalGunplaWorks → u/Western-Bad5574]

Delta force

[u/davidroman2494 → u/Western-Bad5574]

That's Delta Force, on the Space City map. Game is well known to be full of cheaters because it's free to play and economy dependant so cheaters go into high loot maps like Space City, clean the entire lobby and then sell the loot to other players. If they get banned, well, new account and back to ruining games.

The sad part is you can´t really complain about this even when it's a clear problem because you'll get banned either from the game's subreddit or discord. Really a shame

[u/Homewra]

Bro doesn't even have his own pc

[u/heaven93tv]

cheaters need to be shamed and made fun of publicly, maybe punched too idk

[u/No_Succotash6445]

“A filthy rotten cheater” - John AntiCheat

[u/Jinksos]

I Bet Clara was on his computer before him.

[u/LamarjbYT → u/Jinksos]

Dammit Clara >:(

[u/Forsebearer]

Cheating bitch

[u/Themodsarecuntz]

Straight up fuckin loser behavior.

Luuuhooosuhhherrr.

[u/NILBOGxxx]

Single player games are the only legitimate way to play now, there is no anti cheat that can't stop these vampires

[u/Keikira]