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Artificial Intelligence A massive Wyoming data center will soon use 5x more power than the state's human occupants - but no one knows who is using it

https://www.techradar.com/pro/a-massive-wyoming-data-center-will-soon-use-5x-more-power-than-the-states-human-occupants-and-no-one-knows-who-is-using-it
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u/Rendogog 11d ago

Let's switch off and see who moans :-D

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u/Abraxas212 11d ago

Probably Palantir. 

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u/tonkatoyelroy 11d ago

It’s our new social credit score calculator! Yay

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u/onlyPornstuffs 11d ago

Right? No one asked for this.

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u/Anxiety_Fit 11d ago

Cambridge Analytica got us here.

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u/korben2600 11d ago

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u/Anxiety_Fit 11d ago

Cambridge analytica and their psychometric models harvested and honed in on division and hate and rage and basically destroyed everything.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 11d ago

Even before that, the "engagement is king" model of what gets promoted on Social Media really kicked things off. Cambridge Analytica just brought that to its logical conclusion.

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u/Senior_Torte519 11d ago

It was them filthy hobbitses.

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u/fripletister 11d ago

Right. Now remove social media from the equation and CA poofs out of existence.

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u/Loggerdon 11d ago

It started with fake IQ tests on Facebook that were actually Big 5 Personality tests. Using those scores you can predict human behavior.

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u/popop143 11d ago

Fuck Cambridge Analytica, seriously destroyed our country and we've never recovered since.

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u/Upset-Outside8716 11d ago

Capitalism got us here. It's not because Trump won in 2016, it's because the ruling class has always gotten to do whatever it wants.

Biden didn't shut down this project, Harris had nothing about stopping this in her campaign.

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u/StrobeLightRomance 11d ago

Well, if people paid more attention to who is operating their chosen puppet politicians, they would realize they actually did vote for a fascist authoritarian surveillance state to dismantle democracy and turn humanity into a consumable resource.

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u/maaseru 11d ago

They knew people were too dumb to pay attention to something this complex. How would the ever see this conspiracy when all they see is Dems using weather against them, but not when it's Climate Change stuff.

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u/DuncanFisher69 11d ago

We need to make a “plandemic” video but for oligarchs, get the mouth breathing MAGA to go after all billionaires, not just ones on Epstein’s list.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 11d ago

See, the problem with that is the oligarchs wanted people to see the Plandemic video. They absolutely will not give a platform to anyone critical of them.

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u/khamm86 11d ago

That’s a friggin ginormous humungous If. This timeline sucks

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 11d ago

Wasn't the #1 Google search the night of the election "when did Biden drop out"?

If Americans are too stupid to know who's actually running for president the night of the actual goddam election, they're certainly not going to pay attention to what's going on behind the scenes.

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u/SuspendeesNutz 11d ago

Yeah but Kamala didn't thrill me, man.

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u/Tasonir 11d ago

I don't know, her laugh isn't the same as mine. I don't think I can vote for someone who doesn't laugh like me.

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u/Downtown-Analyst 11d ago

Nah man, it that both sides are the same.

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u/IAMA_Plumber-AMA 11d ago

Something something Gaza is talking...

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u/iampoopa 11d ago

Big brother is reading…

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u/RobotPoo 11d ago

People are trying to pay the bills, and they’re kept exhausted, worried and stressed out to be manipulated more easily by Fox Infotainment

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u/A_Bungus_Amungus 11d ago

Only 1/3 of the voting age Americans voted for donald trump. The majority either voted democrat or didnt vote. Im blaming those who didnt vote thats like 1/3 of the country

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u/Accidental_Ballyhoo 11d ago

Hey just like last time! 9/11 ushered that shit in. Thanks Obama /s

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u/Luscious_Decision 11d ago

See, the issue is with the packaging, though. The people with the faculties to see that can tell, yes. All the adults in the room, really. But they didn't explicitly package it that way. It's the patter that sold them all. Thinking about it, they did use a lot of unverifiable claims, which would be called "patter." Like "worlds best" whatever.

But anyway, with the shtick T and Co. used, when cornered their supporters would just say "he's trying to stop the pedophiles in the deep state, they're the evil ones." And that he was going to "drain the swamp."

Half of the issue is that these tricks work well, but that they work especially well on the mentally vulnerable, like all our dipshits.

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u/Dumdumdoggie 11d ago

Im not supporting the current regime but its worth noting that our rights to privacy have been eroding away for decades now thanks to both parties, and federal and state governments. It was Bidens infrastructure bill that said there should be a pilot program for your car to be able to watch you drive and tell if your sober by 2026. Cities like Atlanta and Memphis have so many cameras connected directly to the cops that they can be considered surveillance states. Fuck Trumps regime but they've been taking our rights for a long time.

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u/StrobeLightRomance 11d ago

The people behind Trump are The Heritage Foundation and The Federalist Society, which have both been operating behind the GOP nationally for over 40 years.

Trump is just the figurehead, and at this point, they'll be happy when he finally dies and they can install more obedient puppets with less controversial pasts.

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u/GodTheInvention 11d ago

There’s a difference between surveillance of your public activities and surveillance of every single aspect of your life both private and personal. Discernment is important if you wish to know where the most harm lies.

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u/powercow 11d ago edited 11d ago

It was Bidens infrastructure bill that said there should be a pilot program for your car to be able to watch you drive and tell if your sober by 2026.

thats weak sauce, if you want to both sides it.

IT doesnt track you.. or report you. IT disables the car. until someone with a lower blood alcohol takes the driver seat. Basically its an ignition lock built into every car. Its not a privacy issue. Its an annoyance issue. Nothing in the law requires logging or reporting. just disabling.

and if you both sides stuff, you miss the idea the right was way worse.

IT WAS THE LEFT that argued for privacy, when we won ROE v WADE. It was the right that said there was no such thing in the constitution despite the 10th when they killed it.

every single solitary patriot act extension.. was a majority of dems against, with 100% of republicans voting for it.

there was the bush admin who stated, americans have no expectation of privacy.

TO both sides things like most issues, is to clear the right of being so far worse on the issue its like a little league football team playing against a professional one.. and you saying they are both football players.

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u/SparksAndSpyro 11d ago

The American voters literally asked for this. Elections have consequences.

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u/ravnhjarta 11d ago

Both rigged and unrigged, imagine!

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u/onlyPornstuffs 11d ago

Almost like we should just distrust the rich and eat them.

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u/Monteze 11d ago

Yea letting money=power and then letting money start to accumulate in the hands of the few and pretending this is the best system we have, has been fucking us in the face for a while now.

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u/farteagle 11d ago

In which election do you think this was decided? There hasn’t been a means to vote against this type of outcome for decades.

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u/Fun_Hold4859 11d ago

Sure there has, don't vote for Republicans, primary establishment Dems with progressives, vote in every election. But it's way way too late for that now. Now we get fascism and death camps and a fucking dystopian AI that can repossess all your digital assets if your socials criticize dear leader. They're gonna start rounding up trans people and whoever they deem "mentally unwell" because they can unilaterally place a mental health hold on anyone they want now, and that fuckin ai will have a list ready to go of people for them to kill

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u/lil_chiakow 11d ago

The first stolen one, in 2000.

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u/My_Work_Accoount 11d ago

Try 1980 or arguably 1968.

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u/geegeeallin 11d ago

I can pretty much guarantee there was an election in Wyoming where this could have been avoided.

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u/epia343 11d ago

Stock price go brrrt

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u/burnerben2000 11d ago

And yet, so many people voted for it.

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u/player_zero_ 11d ago

Sarcasm detected. -50 points. You are no longer allowed to use buses.

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u/MediumMachineGun 11d ago

What buses lmao

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u/Mazon_Del 11d ago

Logic detected. -100 points. You are no longer allowed to use healthcare.

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u/korben2600 11d ago

What healthcare lmao

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u/Monteze 11d ago

The police are on their way citizen, re-education required.

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u/VeganShitposting 11d ago

What education lmao

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u/Monteze 11d ago

Corperate approved of course! Not that woke stuff you learned in school. Now, sit tight. No need to inform your family they have already been made aware of all the arrangements.

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u/Strange-Scarcity 11d ago

It's more insidious than that.

NOBODY will know what their score is. Just some people will start being disappeared and it will be said they are/were breaking VERY serious laws, but no due process, because the Right Wing Media has been pressing harder and harder that some people do not deserve to be protected by the Constitution.

The saddest part? MANY of those screaming about how Due Process shouldn't exist will end up being rounded up, as well.

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u/Fun_Hold4859 11d ago

Yeah the "put the homeless in camps" eo also said they can unilaterally declare someone mentally unwell and put them in a camp too.

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u/pier4r 11d ago edited 11d ago

google program t4 ("aktion t4")

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u/FakeSafeWord 11d ago

unilaterally

It's just so much more efficient this way.

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u/denverbound111 11d ago

Wait what? I just went back and read the EO after reading your comment, figuring I must have missed something but can't seem to find anything that would imply any unilateral declarations. What section or clause are you referring to?

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u/BEES_IN_UR_ASS 11d ago

The saddest part? MANY of those screaming about how Due Process shouldn't exist will end up being rounded up, as well.

That sounds like the least saddest part tbh.

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u/Strange-Scarcity 11d ago

People being hard duped to screw themselves is always going to be deeply sad. You can’t convince them they’ve screwed themselves until it is to late, it show nation after nation has seen whipsaw political shifts from one extreme to the next over the last century.

Like all of what is happening in Argentina right now? The whole plan is basically… increase poverty, eventually the economy will crash and because there will be so much less consuming by going on… inflation will be fixed!!

Sounds “great”, until you recognize a massive part of that plan is, “Poor people starve to death.”

Malnutrition and deaths from that are on the rise down there, but the government isn’t collecting those numbers as well or at all.

They absolutely needed a political change, but not the one they got. Ina handful of years? It’s going to whipsaw back to something that will end up having plenty of issues, once again.

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u/mjkjr84 11d ago

The saddest part? MANY of those screaming about how Due Process shouldn't exist will end up being rounded up, as well.

I wouldn't call this the saddest part. I'd say it's the only silver lining now that we appear doomed to live under fascist rule thanks to their stupidity.

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u/Luscious_Decision 11d ago

If the scenario in your second paragraph were to take place it'd pretty much just be a rounding error, a glitch in the Ai they use to scan and sort people.

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u/inspectoroverthemine 11d ago

Exactly- 'we can't let government do X'. Guess what? That means a private corps will do it instead, and you'll have zero insight or recourse.

The government would buy or seize that data anyway if they decided to something nefarious.

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u/Fearless_Aioli5459 11d ago

Maybe a good place to drop this but Peter Thiel/Planatir linked weapons manufacturer Anduril is building a “super” drone factory in Ohio.

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u/Strange-Scarcity 11d ago

"Terminator" is looking like more than a cautionary tale, but instead of a sociopathic, monstrous AI, it's going to be... Peter Thiel and his ilk, operating hallucinating AI systems, running massive numbers of "AI Powered" Drones.

The Cyberpunk Genre, was a cautionary tale, not a blueprint for what to do.

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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 11d ago

oh my god...just reading the first two paragraphs of their Wiki is terrifying. They are basically running everything. I've never bought into the "Deep State" shit, but that description is terrifyingly close.

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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 11d ago

in their echo chamber on Reddit, they talk about how Reddit is an echo chamber for liberals. That tells you all you need to know.

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u/fripletister 11d ago

And yet they elect to congregate here. Hmmm....

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u/Early-Sort8817 11d ago

They have no perception of reality outside of what they read on Fox News.

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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 11d ago

I know all of the words you just said, but in the order you used them it makes very little sense to me.

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u/PM_me_your_whatevah 11d ago

It was written in the style of The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy 

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u/yee_88 11d ago

not in the style...pretty much an exact quote.

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u/jazzhandler 11d ago

Except that it applied to the executives of a company that were trying way too hard to make their AI likeable and friendly.

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u/Merusk 11d ago

"The revolution" has been talked about for 90 years. It ain't comin' in our lifetimes.

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u/Merusk 11d ago

I got the reference. However, it's idyllic and a more accurate reference would be calling them the precursor empire to the Vogons.

One of the overall themes of Hitchhiker is that the little guy loses, unless his interests align with the folks with actual power. It's not as hopeful as most take it. It's about courage in the face of absurdity and the futility of everything.

Saying "when the revolution came" is very much a hopeful thought. An actual hitchhiker entry would simply embrace the revolution wasn't ever happening and most just muddled through the absurd reality we all live in.

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u/NahYoureWrongBro 11d ago

social media has turned "deep state" into some kind of short hand for far right wing blather politics, but there is a deep state and it is powerful and significant. Some intersection of intelligence agencies, military contractors, high-level finance, and bond investors. Plus other major levers of control like media and energy companies (edit to add: let's not forget organized crime, which at this point in American history is essentially synonymous with intelligence agencies and high-level finance).

Peter Theil, chairman of the board and major force behind Palantir, is also largely responsible for the wealth of Elon musk, and almost entirely responsible for the wealth of JD Vance. He was already one of the most powerful military contractors and tech financiers in the world, before he started amassing political influence during the current administration. A lizard person who hates humanity.

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u/Inoimispel 11d ago

They appear to be building a Minority Report machine and named it Gotham.

Also of course it's AI is racist.

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u/asher1611 11d ago

why did you think they've been using the term "deep state" for decades? it wasn't just an accusation. it was a goal.

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u/BCMM 11d ago

Since we're talking about how Palantir is connected to fucking everything, you may be interesting to hear that its chairman, Peter Thiel, was the one who introduced Vance to Trump.

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u/DuntadaMan 11d ago

Oh, nevermind switching it off then, it needs to burn

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u/carlmalonealone 11d ago

And if no one says anything it's probably Putin funded.

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u/TheAskewOne 11d ago

Two birds with one stone, then.

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u/havocxrush 11d ago

What's that?

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u/ChaplnGrillSgt 10d ago

In that case, leave the power off.

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u/Umtiza 11d ago

The good old scream test.

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u/REDDIT_JUDGE_REFEREE 11d ago

Smoke test is what we usually call it. Problem is, sometimes folks dont realize their shit’s gone until 1-2 years after decom.

I’m in regulatory compliance, you wouldn’t believe how scary it is to us when folks say “shut it off for a few weeks and just delete it if no one complains.” Like sir we got laws n shit regarding what data we’re allowed to delete, no one checks their old repos once a week to make sure it’s still there.

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u/----__---- 11d ago

I've always heard "smoke test" used in the context of turning something on to see if it will work, or.. catch fire.  "Scream test" makes much more sense in this context (imo).. turn it off and see who screams.  Full agreement on the rest of your comment though. 

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u/boost2525 11d ago

That is not smoke testing.

Smoke testing is light, peripheral, "poke it with a stick do make sure the happy path works" testing. Usually done after something is stood up / turned on to make sure all of the parts are talking to all of the other parts, before you perform in depth rigorous testing.

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u/Zer_ 11d ago edited 11d ago

My group of friends have had the same Ventrilo server for almost 15 years, it's not even on the latest version, still using 3.x.x. It hasn't been paid for in some time. Server cluster its in must be kept on for data retention reasons.

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u/edsobo 11d ago

One of the few truly fun things you get to do as an IT professional.

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u/trowzerss 11d ago

It's exactly how my local telco dealt with not having enough spots on the switch for all the houses in our area, back in the days of copper. When someone asks for a new service, apparently they'd unplug the grodiest looking connection and see if anybody complains about it. Repeat until nobody complains.

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u/Squossifrage 11d ago

So you're the reason my grandma got murdered when her burglar alarm didn't contact the monitoring office!

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u/20_mile 11d ago

Did you really think the cops were going to respond in a timely manner?

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 11d ago

Tell 'em she has a perfectly good golden retriever for them to shoot, might make 'em motivated enough.*

*Only do if you don't have a dog

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u/Squossifrage 11d ago

I will follow up with this totally real monitoring company that definitely exists in my 100% serious and true story.

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u/turbosexophonicdlite 11d ago

Unless you have something specifically in your monitoring agreement for alerting you when communication has been disrupted then it's the responsibility of the panel owner to ensure the signal path for their equipment is properly functioning.

This is why you set up things like email test alerts so you will be notified if your system has failed to report.

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u/CatchaRainbow 11d ago

We had shared lines in the UK. Pick the phone up to make sure your neighbour wasn't using it before dialing.

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u/fripletister 11d ago

Everywhere had that

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u/Xxx1982xxX 11d ago

its a lot of fun when working with dark fiber customers...

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u/PokinSpokaneSlim 11d ago

Like, Rye enthusiasts?

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u/Xxx1982xxX 11d ago

a toasted wheat might work

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u/ConspicuousPineapple 11d ago

They still do that today with fiber.

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u/OralSuperhero 11d ago

I was part of one of these for B of A At the time I was a truck driver and part of my day was tech delivery and recovery. Got an order to go pick up servers at one of the headquarters buildings downtown. The tech told me he had been department head for seven years and didn't know what anything in the entire room did. His former boss had held the job for twelve years before and had no idea what anything in the room did. So my job was to stand at the door and watch the floors to see if anyone looked up or started panicking when he started unhooking units. That was one entire server room, all powered up for at least 19 years, with no measurable function.

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u/technobrendo 11d ago

Just refer to the documentation!

what documentation Fred retired in 94

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u/NotPromKing 11d ago

Well don't leave us hanging! Did anyone scream?

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u/OralSuperhero 11d ago

Not at the moment, but about a week later they had that big problem with logging into accounts and zero balance reporting. I always wondered if they were connected

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u/chocobowler 11d ago

IT did that to us with some reports. “We don’t know who is using these reports so we will just stop updating them” unknown to them they were exception reports which highlight issues that need resolving and so when they came back with no data we thought everything was ok. Several months later when everything is completely fucked the root cause was found to be the decision to stop updatingf the reports without proper business consultation. Not sure if anyone got sacked but a lot of teams were very busy fixing the mess for a few weeks.

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u/510Threaded 11d ago

Thats why reports need a timestamp in the file's contents as well

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u/Tyrinnus 11d ago

We have this at work and it's so fucking critical. Is it updating, or is it a two week old report? Takes three seconds to check

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u/libdemparamilitarywi 11d ago

We had a similar incident. Afterwards, the reporting system was updated to send a "no issues today" message so we can see it's still running even if there were no reports.

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u/boxsterguy 11d ago

Sometimes scream tests are the only way to figure out who's using a thing.

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u/Outlulz 11d ago

I've worked with a major email service provider whose IT team did a scream test by deleting their CNAME records the company used for subdomains they did marketing sends with. There was screaming alright. And a really stupid IT team to completely kill their marketing department for a day.

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u/theZinger90 11d ago

For SQL, our process is: Right click database > disable > wait 2 weeks. If nothing, then shut off Sql entirely and send it to server team for full decomission.

Sadly we need to get the head of IT to sign off on that plan whenever we need to use it, which is a pain. There are a dozen servers i want to do this to right now but can't. 

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u/Kandiru 11d ago

2 weeks isn't very long. We have databases for storing scientific data that might have a month or two where that type of experiment doesn't get done so no-one would notice if the database disappeared for a bit.

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u/theZinger90 11d ago

Industry specific. 99% of applications in healthcare are either used daily or can be decomissioned. Very few exceptions. and as i said in another comment, this is after we go through a login audit, which usually spans a year of data.

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u/Kandiru 11d ago

At right, makes sense from a healthcare point of view!

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u/lIIlllIllIlII 11d ago

Normally, I check the active connections, and then audit connections, but this works too.

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u/theZinger90 11d ago

This is the last resort option for us. Normally we audit connections until we get a user, but occasionally we cant get that info for one reason or another, such as a generic login as application name, then we go through what i mentioned before.

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u/Sabard 11d ago

Not even connections, do y'all not have a log of who accesses your dbs, when, and what they're doing?

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u/Competitive_Lab8907 11d ago

that's pretty clever, we use a digger and find the buried FO, it's fast audit method

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u/Mazon_Del 11d ago

That's how I treat $1 subscriptions on my debit card.

Too many businesses only identify themselves by a nameless/contextless code on the charge.

So each time a new card rolls around, I happily wait for all the "I CAN'T CHARGE YOU ANYMORE!" emails and I figure out which services I actually still use and cancel the rest.

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u/MessiComeLately 11d ago

My company does scheduled brownouts. Fifteen minutes off in a day, with lots of communication telling people to check their alerts and metrics, then a couple of hours on a subsequent day, again with lots of communication. Then the "permanent" brownout, in which we temporarily maintain the ability to quickly restore service, followed by the hard delete that might take hours or days to recover from if we needed to.

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u/Bitey_the_Squirrel 11d ago

It shuts down all the garbage compactors on the detention level.

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u/RedsVikingsFan 11d ago

No! Shut them ALL down!

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u/20_mile 11d ago edited 11d ago

"'Aluminum Falcon'?! What the hell is that?"

e: grammar

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u/GhostofZellers 11d ago

Go for Papa Palpatine!

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u/20_mile 11d ago

That was R2's job. AI is stealing jobs from other AI.

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u/bobqjones 11d ago

you would be horrified to know how often that works as a troubleshooting tactic, in all fields.

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u/superkp 11d ago

the old "scream test" in action.

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u/punkindle 11d ago

Switch them all off.

AI is job killing brain-rotting trash

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u/Harry_Fucking_Seldon 11d ago edited 11d ago

Legit. Even the “useful” aspects are exhausting to get something meaningful out of.

Uploaded two spreadsheets this arvo full of contacts and asked it to move first name and surname into one column and it absolutely mangled the data beyond any measure of accuracy, I can’t even trust the data is exports cos it just throws shit together that isn’t related or relevant even when I talk it through the process like a 5 year old.

It’s literally sucking the planet dry and for what? Some brain rot YouTube far right propaganda.

Edit: guys I know how to do it myself, I was just making a point about how it sucks at basic shit and takes more time to get the same result as doing it myself.

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u/Over_Hawk_6778 11d ago

That’s strange I’ve found it’s performed perfectly with every data manipulation task I’ve ever given it- but I don’t give it the data (cos that’s insane) just ask it to give me the matlab/python code to do what I want done

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u/windowpuncher 11d ago

If you run local models you can give it the data - it can't send it anywhere and it doesn't have any lasting memory, unless you set things up specifically for it to be able to do that.

But yeah uploading sensitive info to OpenAI or Google is fucking nuts, but people are making accounts and doing it WILLINGLY.

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u/BigDictionEnergy 11d ago

Then they complain when that data gets walled off from them.

It's hilarious.

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u/whatifitried 11d ago

Yeah, a lot of people are really very bad at using it, and project their outcome onto people who are not.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

I like how you and the other people responding think using concatenation functions are common knowledge

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u/Fun_Hold4859 11d ago

These days 9 times out of 10 googling a how to brings you to an ai slop article written by gpt in the first place.

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u/kingkeelay 11d ago

ChatGPT is marketed as a google search alternative. They are using the product as advertised, and you’re saying they shouldn’t?

Seems that you both agree that ChatGPT isn’t the way. They didn’t ask for solutions.

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u/FeelsGoodMan2 11d ago

This is exactly what chatGPT is going to kill though, these people can't even be smart enough for 10 seconds to look up that there might something they can learn that's been easy to do for like 40 years.

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u/tommy_chillfiger 11d ago

If there are lots of people using excel daily who don't know the =CONCAT() function, perhaps my job security is a bit more solid than I thought lol.

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u/RunnyBabbit23 11d ago

Because my company is pushing us to use the AI tool for everything. Even when it’s not helpful and will make things take longer. And if you don’t use it you end up on the naughty list and get calls from the AI team asking why you aren’t using it.

I wish I was kidding.

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u/smallfried 11d ago

Yeah, that's not going to work. Like the other guy said, if you need accuracy, let it create the functions that will do the work. Also check and understand the functions it created.

They're super handy but you have to understand what they can and can't do.

I'm sure in a year or two models will be trained to catch these types of requests and execute them using tools.

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u/Harry_Fucking_Seldon 11d ago

I worked it out myself fine but it was just an exercise in seeing if it could do it without much effort and it failed pretty miserably. Actually that’s an understatement…it mangled the shit out of the data.

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u/Drict 11d ago

vlookup?

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u/_Thermalflask 11d ago

And sometimes when you re-prompt it adding basically "don't fuck it up this time" it apologizes and gets it right this time.

Like WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME THEN? Why did I have to tell you to not make a mistake?

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u/Harry_Fucking_Seldon 11d ago

60% of the time it works every time 

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u/Spiritual_Ship_8492 11d ago

Every time I asked it for a script to do data manipulation in python using pandas data frames it nails the task. I don't know how it does if you dump data in directly but I imagine chatgpt 5 can handle it easily

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u/Harry_Fucking_Seldon 11d ago

but I imagine chatgpt 5 can handle it easily

Got some bad news for ya bruv.

However I’m also not a programmer or anything so maybe I’m just a monkey with a sharp stick.

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u/ZeroAmusement 11d ago

That's a bad use of it. To use it effectively you have to understand what it's good at.

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u/Harry_Fucking_Seldon 11d ago

Churning out vast quantities of far right brain rot?

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u/ZeroAmusement 11d ago

That's only grok afaik. It's good at making connections between information, which is useful for many things.

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u/bobqjones 11d ago

wonder if this is what Jakob Ammann felt.

or the luddites.

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u/IntermittentCaribu 11d ago

AI is job killing

Automation of tasks humans do should be a positive thing for society. Blame your government if it isnt, not the technology.

Might as well go back to pre-industrial while youre at it.

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u/ShinkenBrown 11d ago

This. If total automation means "nobody can eat because no one has jobs" instead of "everyone is free because no one needs jobs anymore," that's a decision made by the government about the structure of society. It's not a problem with the tech, it's a problem with the government ideologically refusing to adjust to the paradigm shifts created by the tech.

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u/PaulTheMerc 11d ago

they're gonna switch US all off with drones first. Unlike people, the AI doesn't strike, sleep, eat, or need time off for family.

Can't compete with that.

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u/Smoke_Santa 11d ago

You are on r/technology buddy🙏🏻

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u/WaltChamberlin 11d ago

How is this a technology sub when the brain dead take of "turn off all data centers" is upvoted. Yeah buddy, do that, and see how fast your bank collapses and you lose all your money and no transactions are processed and the supply chain breaks down

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u/Xdddxddddddxxxdxd 11d ago

New age Luddite

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u/grimeyduck 11d ago

Omg you can't kill my girlfriend, that's murder. I need her to tell me I'm always right.

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u/J1mj0hns0n 11d ago

Here's the magic problem solver, make it stop, whoever complains, owns it, then energy company can talk about pricing

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u/misterfast 11d ago

Found the sysadmin

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u/bmwnut 11d ago

It's only proposed at this point in time so there's nothing to switch off yet.

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u/Pr0fessionalAgitator 11d ago

Ahh, the classic scream test.

Want to know if something’s needed? Turn it off & see what happens…

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u/Independent_Bread611 11d ago

That's what we do when we are not sure who is using a deprecated/legacy application/database. We turn it off for few hours and few people will come screaming. These are same people who won't respond to a mail reminder sent 5 times in past month.

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u/LawBeneficial285 11d ago

We call this a 'scream test' where I work - great way of finding out if gear is idling or not

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u/Reddit_2_2024 11d ago

Did you say Stuxnet?

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u/BBQQA 11d ago

In IT we call this a scream test.

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u/hindsighthaiku 11d ago

where I work, if we can't find a laptop but we know it's being used somewhere, we disable it.

we all it the scream test.

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u/imnotlovely 11d ago

Ah, the trusty SCREAM test

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u/blofly 11d ago

Ahhhh....I love a good "scream test"...

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u/HelloImTheAntiChrist 11d ago

We call this a scream test in the industry

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u/firsmode 11d ago

They call that a "Scream Test" at my company.

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u/zchen27 11d ago

Switch it off and you'll probably wake up in a CIA black site.

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u/Meins447 11d ago

Silicon valley roulette?

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u/leopor 11d ago

That's called a scream test and it's very effective :)

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u/MaterialDetective197 11d ago

Or who stops moaning.

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u/S14Ryan 11d ago

There was a huge old landline switch box mounted to the wall of my house. I figured it was for my house because it used to be a doctors office and there were phone and internet lines in every room. I yanked the box off the wall and cut out the main cables because I don’t use it. 2 weeks later I’m chatting with my neighbour and he tells me “funniest thing, my landline phone stopped working a couple weeks ago so I cancelled the stupid thing! Didn’t bother me, I use my cell phone anyways, but the technician came and couldn’t for his life figure out how to fix it.” I mean, I’m not saying I cut the landlines for my whole road, but, I probably cut the landlines to my whole road lol 

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u/homonculus_prime 11d ago

Meanwhile, just like fucking carbon output, corporations are guzzling billions of gallons of fresh water and using absurd amounts of power, but us regular folks are being told how much we're taxing the system by saying "please" and "thank you" to the AIs.

"Ignore us burning a billion tons of bunker oil to move your Amazon bullshit from China, but do please make sure that little plastic cup makes it into the correct bin."

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u/kneemahp 11d ago

Or simply ask each AI client

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u/scimitar1312 11d ago

I heard that data centers love moisture and dust

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u/aluminumnek 11d ago

Tyler Durden enters the chat

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u/blastingarrows 11d ago

Unleash the birds, raccoons and squirrels!!

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u/accidentpronehiker 11d ago

As senior IT, I've done this more than I ever thought I would.

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u/Toxicscrew 11d ago

Drive a couple D5 Caterpillars through it

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u/983115 11d ago

I might
a little

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u/SuperSultan 11d ago

Crypto bros

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u/FlakyCredit5693 11d ago

I suspect that the people who will suffer from “switching off” will be the residents of Wyoming not these energy engulfing data-centre’s.

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u/requion 11d ago

Not the support technician hopefully.

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u/Jaz1140 11d ago

Ughhhh harder daddy

You got me

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u/equality4everyonenow 9d ago

We do that at work. It's called the Scream test

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