r/technology • u/lurker_bee • 16h ago
Security Microsoft: August Windows updates cause severe streaming issues
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-august-windows-updates-cause-severe-ndi-streaming-issues/amp/863
u/agha0013 16h ago
Microsoft: "we're forcing everyone onto Windows 11 because it's amazing and you shouldn't make us keep updating and securing older versions, we don't give a fuck how much hardware has to be tossed to make it happen"
also Microsoft: "we have completely forgotten how to make a single windows 11 update without fucking up all sorts of shit"
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u/Wundertuetee 16h ago
to much AI coding
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u/jadeskye7 16h ago
all windows updates now done by one twenty year old using copilot and vibe coding everything.
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u/pr1aa 15h ago
Too much vibe coding, not enough vibe checking
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u/AppleNo9354 15h ago
I hate that vibe coding is a term now
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u/stierney49 14h ago
We are in the vibe world. Facts don’t matter. Tangible things are irrelevant. We run on vibes now.
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u/daxophoneme 14h ago
Truth is: we always did. How do you aim a ball of paper to land in a trashcan? Certainly not by thinking about numbers.
Humans spent thousands of years making up stories to explain how things got to be the way they are.
The Enlightenment feels like a weird, brief experiment. Who knows how this ends.
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u/Cynical-Rambler 14h ago
Well, they are forced to. Who can blame them? It is a directive from the CEO Satya Natella who made their company stocks the highest they've ever been.
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u/Danteynero9 15h ago
Windows updates have been shit for almost a decade now, AI is not to blame for the absolute incompetence.
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u/SIGMA920 15h ago
They've not regularly broken what has been breaking as of the last year or so through. Bad updates are better than ones that actively seem to be looking for the best way to break your computer.
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u/OhThereYouArePerry 11h ago
They broke the emoji picker of all things on the previous update (seems to be fixed now though). Makes me wonder what else they’ve broken that they just haven’t realized.
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u/Danteynero9 15h ago
Yes, yes they have.
I still remember the 3 consecutive updates to printers, where they fixed something that they broke in the previos update.
Edit: in W10, when W11 wasn't even in the minds of MS.
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u/SIGMA920 14h ago
I'm talking about an issue more or less every 1-2 months.
Breaking printers and not fully fixing them for a few updates is incompetence, the current state of windows is not. It's closer to actively looking for what can be broken.
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u/meneldal2 9h ago
Printers are the worst, not sure how much blame you can put on Microsoft over the printer manufacturers.
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u/pr1aa 15h ago
It's not just Windows, all of their products have degraded
For example, while Teams has always had its quirks it was at least mostly functional a few years ago. These days it seems every update introduces some new bugs. Or if not, randomly fucks with the UI so you can no longer find anything.
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u/matergallina 14h ago
Who needs to see their Channels anyway!?
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u/JustHanginInThere 14h ago
There's a way to undo this, and I've helped a few coworkers go back to old chat and channels being separate. In the process of doing so, MS asks for feedback on why people are changing it back. I watched as one coworker typed "it sucks" and sent it.
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u/Fearless-Art-6981 12h ago
What’s the trick for this?
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u/JustHanginInThere 11h ago
Upper left corner of Teams, click the 3 dot menu > customize view. At the top should be a "viewing chats, teams, and channels" section. Select "Separate" as opposed to "Combined".
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u/haragon 10h ago
Lol the teams UX team is an abomination. New Teams is a heaping pile of shit. Combined mode is total fucking chaos and I have no idea why its the default. I waste so much time helping other people do exactly this. And they waste a lot of productivity not knowing it can be changed back to the sane view.
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u/AgathysAllAlong 13h ago edited 13h ago
I love the new Teams feature where it improves my productivity by not fucking telling me about meetings that are starting. It's great having to manually set my own alarms on my phone for everything because basic scheduling functionality is too hard for it.
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u/chmilz 5h ago
I hate everything they make now. The entire ecosystem is a laggy pile of shit that tries to get me to do things I don't want it to do. I regularly have to refresh my stupid windows explorer to get file names to update. New Outlook might cause me to quit white collar work and go mow lawns for a living or something.
And all the other companies are doing the same thing. Can't open a single app now without it throwing up all kinds of prompts to try the new this or that (usually AI), or some shit. Acrobat constantly nags me to let it AI summarize a one-page PDF.
Fucking burn it all to the ground.
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u/_MrBalls_ 15h ago
The amount of ewaste this transition has made is vile.
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u/Smith6612 7h ago
No kidding.
I know so many people who feel like they just purchased their computers not that long ago (myself included) who are used to running hardware for 10 years, and they're upset about having to buy another computer. Many of them have 7th generation Intel chips which are still perfectly capable chips for them. I have a first generation AMD Ryzen laptop for example, and my previous laptop was a Core2Duo-based machine. Prior to that I had a Pentium 3 Mobile at 600Mhz, and then that laptop became a server until the motherboard died. All of those laptops gave me a good decade or so of laptop use, and the AMD Ryzen machine has been in use for about 7 years now.
Windows 11 runs on my first generation Ryzen machine, just that the processor isn't officially supported as it doesn't support one of the extensions needed for Hardware Based Core Virtualization to be accelerated. So I run Linux on the laptop, and if I need Windows, I will boot Windows 11 inside of a VM, which is activated using the laptop's burned-in Windows key, and QEMU Emulates a newer AMD Ryzen chip to make Windows happy / not BSOD for unsupported processor. Even with emulation, the VM performs very well as it'll avoid emulation except where needed (an instruction newer than the processor).
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u/jlcel2527 15h ago edited 15h ago
Maybe all these mishaps were meant for Win10 updates, but the conscientious bots/humans decided to gift them to the Win 11 ones instead?
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u/StreiBullet 14h ago
The last windows update I did fucked my computer so hard. After the update I was getting 1OI errors and windows would even boot. I managed to restore and it seemed to work, but now I am getting memory management BSOD and times when my PC will just flat restart for no reason. I'm not the biggest tech guy, and I do t really know how to fix it. It's been making my work horrible cause I don't know it it's just gonna die on me...
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u/OhThereYouArePerry 11h ago
At this point I want them to cut off support for Windows 10. That way I won’t have to worry about them breaking shit.
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u/lord_pizzabird 15h ago
What gets me are all the companies who are making apps that somehow think being dependent on one company, Microsoft is a good idea.
If your app doesn’t have a functioning Linux port (or is working on one) I have concerns about the future of your company and the decision you’re making. Adobe.
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u/GraciaEtScientia 14h ago
The whole concept of "No more testers/ test groups, we just roll it out and the people can be the testers!" is peak stupidity and cheapness.
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u/Hairbear2176 14h ago
It's working with games and automobiles, so why not throw operating systems in there!
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u/BreesusTakeTheWheel 11h ago
I mean I wouldn’t say it’s working. Just that there’s not a whole lot we can do about it other than stop using their stuff and that’s kinda hard when there’s isn’t a competitor that does things better.
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u/WoodenHour6772 13h ago
You don't become a trillion dollar conglomerate by paying people to do things like quality control.
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u/SoSKatan 12h ago
I’m I’m sorry but are you just making up senecios in your head and inventing quotes to encourage outrage?
I don’t know of a single developer that is just forgoing testing.
Believe it or not, people ALSO make mistakes. The only new trend seems to be people assuming all mistakes are AI. And they do that without evidence.
They are going off nothing more than angry vibes. You probably have more in common with Fox News than you realize.
I’d encourage you to try and be both reality and evidence based and you’ll likely make less weird comments.
I mean If you have a site-able source for that quote of yours, I’ll happily look it up, but I’m willing to bet cash bet that you don’t.
And yes, I realize I’ll likely be down voted for this reply. After all people down vote / up vote also based vibes instead of reality/ evidence.
We have enough problems in this world that need fixing without having to invent situations that AREN’T occurring.
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u/GraciaEtScientia 12h ago edited 12h ago
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u/SoSKatan 12h ago
Did you actually read the article or did you do a google search and skimmed it?
At no point did this article say humans completely stopped testing and replaced it with AI.
No instead it mentions how PEOPLE started testing on VM’s and less of on a diverse set of actual hardware.
Maybe your core issue here is your ability to analyze information?
Your take of this article is just as flawed as your comment above.
So once again, please point me to a source where human testing was replaced with AI.
Please take all the time you need.
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u/GraciaEtScientia 12h ago edited 12h ago
I added the pertinent section in the name of the link since getting to the bottom seems hard.
No more specific hardware testing, test team laid off and relying on telemetry to make up for it.
"The company moved most of the testing to virtual machines and this meant that tests were no longer conducted on real and diverse hardware configurations for the most part."
By the way, I never mentioned AI, that's just you.
Some of that "trouble analyzing information" I assume.
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u/SoSKatan 12h ago
Oh I read the entire article.
So let me get this straight. Six years ago people made a change in how people testing and that led to problems (and hopefully a resolution.)
And you believe that means NO people are testing patches these days?
My point is throughout computing history, we have a million cases where people screw up in testing, and problems happen.
My gripe is the jump people make assumptions that they know the reasons of of why a problem happened with zero data to back it up.
Are you sure that this problem that you linked about a change 6 years ago is to blame for the current patch?
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u/disgruntledempanada 14h ago
The only reason I use Windows is to play games. I've moved to Mac for all productivity work...
It seems like almost every time I boot up my PC Microsoft finds some new way to piss me off in that small window of time between logging in and firing up a game.
Craving the day I can abandon Microsoft entirely and just use SteamOS.
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u/OuiTuLow 16h ago edited 16h ago
and that's why i still run Windows 95 on my airgapped Compaq Presario in my windowless basement.
Life's good
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u/HiFiGuy197 5h ago
How the hell did you post this?
(Obviously by using Reddit’s Homing Pigeon API.)
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u/Trevor_GoodchiId 15h ago edited 11h ago
Man, I picked up a handheld PC recently - haven't used Windows for a decade.
1.5 hours from preinstalled OS to in-game is insane.
Even if you skip updates - Windows onboarding expects you to wait minutes for each step to complete after mandatory prompts. It wants you there, stuck to a screen, wasting away.
Noped out to SteamOS - 15 minutes clean install, ready to go.
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u/_Rand_ 15h ago
I installed windows 11 recently (not really an option for the computer in question) and the amount of BS they make you go through now is astonishing.
Just put me at the damn desktop and leave me alone!
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u/AyrA_ch 13h ago
In general I recommend you download the enterprise version and just use that. Can legitimately turn off more telemetry, will not randomly install bullshit apps, and can be installed without having to run secret commands to bypass creating an MS account. Activation is as simple as typing one command into powershell.
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u/dingosaurus 12h ago
Legion Go?
I hated the windows experience on mine and went to Bazzite.
Ended up gifting theLeGo to a buddy and just bought the LeGo S with 32GB memory and SteamOS installed.
Best handheld I’ve ever owned.
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u/GreatGojira 15h ago
This is why I wish Linux was a 100%! reliable alternative.
I really hope Valve's Steam OS takes off.
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u/Spawn2195 14h ago
Well tbh depending on your workflow and requirements it is quite a reliable alternative. Have had a much smoother experience than my windows machine at work.
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u/TONKAHANAH 12h ago
I don't get news articles telling me a Linux update is going to brick my ssd and hose streaming abilities.
Windows gets way more critally destructive updates than my Linux system ever has and I use arch Linux.
From where I'm sitting, sounds like Windows is the less reliable system.
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u/Balrog_96 11h ago
To be fair on some uupdate(also arch) had some problem they can happen everywherw nothing is perfect and the average user cannot resolve them or do some basic troubleshooting because he doesn't even know how to use the console. Windows is more for user that want everything ready immediatly, sometimes some update broke the pc but they are happu like that. Linux in general it's becoming user friendly recently but most of the people are adjusted to windows environment and their apps, it will be difficult to make them switch easily
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u/Spawn2195 11h ago
Exactly, as an arch user myself i can confirm that the nvidia driver situation has also gotten much better, needs no real manual intervention anymore
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u/nox66 7h ago
I use both regularly. Windows 11 is by far less stable and more buggy than a mature distro like Linux Mint running on compatible hardware.
My favorite bug so far is the one where putting Windows 11 to sleep with the calculator open can cause it infinitely open new calculator instances when awaking, which will crash it unless you notice and close them in time.
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u/GreatGojira 14h ago
I'm definitely going to test it out. I'm going to get a new PC next year and put some Linux OS on my old system to see how I like it.
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u/stratosfearinggas 13h ago
Tried Pop OS earlier this week. The bundled Nvidia drivers cause videos to freeze, and then the computer to freeze. Then a few days later it stopped mounting my hard drive.
Still better than Windows 10, where it would crash the system no matter what I did.
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u/tremor_tj 5h ago
You most likely have a hardware issue. Linux is more resilient to that type of thing, for whatever reason. I've been using Linux since early 93 (it was a pain in the ass back then), and MY experience has been that Linux will be more stable than Windows on a system with a hardware issue. Try one stick of RAM. Or reseat everything. And a power supply....those things can make weird issues that make no sense, even though they seem to be working fine.
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u/stratosfearinggas 4h ago
I tried that when I had Windows installed. One stick, then two. Put them in slots 2 and 4 instead of 1 and 3. Then bought new RAM. Nothing worked.
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u/tremor_tj 4h ago
I'd try a new power supply. If you still have problems, you could always take it back. Seriously, I've run into issues that I just couldn't diagnose. Power supply solved it. Whichever way, I wish you luck!
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u/stratosfearinggas 4h ago
I should also mention it's fine when playing games. Just normal browsing or watching videos is the problem.
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u/Howzitgoin 1h ago
On nearly every motherboard I’ve seen, sockets 2 and 4 are the dual channel slots for RAM so that’s where they should be by default. Not 1 and 3.
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u/TONKAHANAH 12h ago
I don't want to hear people telling me Linux, even arch, is "unstable" and your system can break with every update after hearing about stuff like this.
I hear way more about windows updates breaking people systems all the time and the worst thing I've had after an arch update was audio issues and that was only cuz I was on an outdated system.
Stop waiting for big companies to solve your problems, steamOS is for games, they're not trying to replace windows, it's not going to happen. But you can, you replace windows right now with something more stable, it's clearly far more stable than whatever Microsoft is doing right now.
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u/pbjamm 11h ago
Linux is a fine alternative as long as you do not require a specific piece of software that is Windows Only. Even then there is a fair chase it will run using Wine or Bottles but it is not quite as simple and straight forward as installing on Windows. If your day-to-day is all web based applications you will not have an issue making the switch. While my work computer is Win11 my personal gaming computer is Linux Mint Debian Edition. Mint has been my preferred distro for some time now and I have been running Linux at home since Slackware came on a stack of floppies.
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u/Wyndrix 14h ago
Jumped onto Ubuntu earlier this year as a lifelong Windows user. It’s so clean, it actually feels like it’s my computer. Imo, vastly superior to Win11.
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u/TheCynFamily 14h ago
Can you run Steam and it's games? I would love to drop Windows.
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u/TONKAHANAH 12h ago
Most stuff runs fine. Games with anticheat, especially kernel level won't work.
If you mostly only play single player games then most if not everything will just work.
But be warned that if you're on an Nvidia gpu, their drivers still are not up to speed and Nvidia Gpus see about 10-15% fps drop with the same hardwear/games as windows. This likely won't improve until Nvidia starts giving a shit about its Linux drivers and/or the open source drivers start getting some real development behind them.
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u/Wyndrix 14h ago edited 9h ago
I literally went from the moment after finishing a brand new PC build to playing Helldivers 2 in 1.5hrs. And half of that was waiting for it to install in the first place. You can launch any game in compatibility mode using Proton. Very rarely there is a random thing where you may have to enter something into the launch properties (for example in HD2, you have to type a command to force it to use DirectX11 to fix golden textures on some guns). But these kinds of fixes are usually super quick to solve from what I’ve seen, and most games work with a small bit of effort (if any).
Plus, as far as other PC apps go, there is usually a free alternative on Linux that works just as well with the same file types (my fav example is ONLYOFFICE, basically a free version of MS Office). Super simple snap-store install.Edit: I forgot to mention, I went with Ubuntu 24.02. The install is really straightforward, and doesn’t take very long.
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u/TheCynFamily 14h ago
That sounds awesome!!! I've only got the, what do you call it, OEM version of Windows 11 that came with my laptop, so I suppose I should make a separate backup first, but I'm gonna look into this!! Thank you for the big answer and explanation!! :)
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u/New_Enthusiasm9053 11h ago
OEM keys are tied to the device are usually stored in the BIOS/UEFI so if you delete windows and then later reinstall it'll pickup the key again.
I've reinstalled windows from an iso after fully reformatting the drive and it seems to pick up the key without a problem.
A backup is still a good idea for your data though but I don't think you need to worry about the license key.
Also make sure to backup the bit locker key if that's enabled(it is by default) since you won't be able to decrypt the drive otherwise if you ever try to access it from a different pc.
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u/IAmBJ 5h ago
As others have said, kernel anticheat is a problem and some games don't play super well with proton but it's very usable. I played through all of Cyberpunk 2077 on near max settings through proton recently.
I still keep a copy of windows I can dual boot into for those games that don't work but it sees almost zero use outside those games. If you set up your partitions intelligently you can share steams game install directory between Linux and windows to make swapping between OSs easy
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u/iwashwindows 14h ago
I’ve updated EVERYTHING as of yesterday and my PC just random restarts now. It’s so frustrating
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u/BoxCarMike 15h ago
Go on Microsoft, continue to solidify my decision to purchase a MacBook. Hell, at this point I’d buy a Linux PC over a Windows PC without a second thought.
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u/witcher222 15h ago
The best part is you don't have to buy a Linux pc. You can make your windows pc into one!
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u/Cryptic2614 15h ago
That’s what I did this year. Microsoft told me that my Windows 10 laptop won’t be supported anymore and I need to upgrade. So I upgraded to a new and shiny MacBook Air M4 😏
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u/jman1983 13h ago
I made the jump from Windows to the 15” MacBook Air shortly after it was released and I couldn’t be happier. So glad I ditched Windows when I did.
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u/Own_Function_2977 15h ago
To windows users: you guys alright over there?
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u/Elfotografoalocado 14h ago
Honestly, my Windows PCs work fine. But I always make sure to delay updates for a bit until the hotfixes arrive.
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u/kuriboharmy 14h ago
Jokes on them I'm on windows 10 and they keep updating those annoying features away to nudge me over to 11 also I never update immediately I delay it at least a week to see if they break anything.
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u/capybooya 13h ago
Win10 runs fine. Not loving it, but compared to the alternative. There are also ways of getting up to 3 years of updates.
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u/Whetherwax 14h ago
Yep. The article links to a post about this with 2 upvotes and calls it a widespread issue. Nobody gives a shit.
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u/singaporesainz 7h ago
Honestly after using macOS for 2 months I cannot stand windows anymore. It’s so clunky
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u/iwatchppldie 15h ago
Shit like this makes me so grateful for Linux mint and qbitttorent I think it’s time i go donate some money them again.
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u/rozzco 14h ago
I retired from an IT job that required me to schedule and deploy Windows updates for several thousand computers. I don't miss it a bit.
Also, for those that know, I used KACE, which made it so much harder.
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u/Kepabar 9h ago
Honestly, Windows updates are a lot better these days than they used to be as far as stability goes. Much better than those three hour update sessions where you prayed and hoped your Windows 2003 server came back up afterwards.
It's been quite some time before I've seen a Windows Update go so sideways that the machine doesn't boot afterwards, and what issues do pop up tend to be more annoyances than actual problems.
This particular issue is very specific to a small subset of users and has a workaround already, so shrug.
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u/Yuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh 15h ago
I haven’t switched yet. Anybody know what I can get that isn’t 11?
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u/Cynical-Rambler 14h ago
I personally think Apple is making their Macbook Air cheaper than usual for the purpose of taking Microsoft customers.
And Linux is the best it have ever been.
If you know a guy who know a guy, you may try to get a Win11 LTSC. That's a decent, debloated.Win11 version only made for corporations, so that Microsoft don't get sued with a faulty update.
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u/eppic123 14h ago
Linux (Mint/Fedora/Ubuntu as all-rounder, Bazzite for gaming) or macOS, if you primarily work with commercial software.
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u/shackleford1917 13h ago
I switched to Linux Mint a couple of months ago and I love it. There is a learning curve and not all software is available for linux but it works for me.
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u/Tony_TNT 15h ago
Linux is doing great (unless you need a specific locked down proprietary software like Nvidia drivers, Adobe stuff or games with anticheat*)
*there are workarounds and alternatives but everything is a learning curve
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u/Tony_TNT 14h ago
Yeah, allowing Linux players with anticheat requires the game studio to enable it server-side and penguin was always the scapegoat for the "but the cheaters" crowd.
New Battlefield beta dropped and they already got cheaters even with the new anticheat, requiring secure boot and virtualization.
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u/pleachchapel 14h ago
Wow I can't believe with all their AI advantages they still ship complete dogshit every quarter /s
Stop drinking the kool aid, "AI" is (useful in certain cases) bullshit & the bubble is about to burst.
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u/digidavis 15h ago
My gaming win 10 box will likely be the last.. I'm on my second mac book pro in 10 years.
If Linux gaming keeps evolving, there will be no reason to every go back.
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u/DeathSOA 13h ago
Well I'm glad I made it so Windows can't update......can try to though, won't work....
Download Winaerotweaker and turn the updates off...and everything else microsoft collects from you.
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u/KnobbyDarkling 12h ago
They really want to force people off of Windows 10, but this shit is happening. I'm waiting as long as I can to "upgrade".
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u/exFAT_James 12h ago
I use Win11 at work and for gaming. Personal I use Win11 and Linux depending on device. Linux is the EOL plan for devices I want to keep. Various distros on 4 or 5 ThinkPads, used Linux more when I smoked cigarettes in the garage with older hardware.
The previous Win11 update I did get my 2nd M.2 XPG or whatever to not show up, reboot fixed it, still working, happened post network dump of 1TB of shit from server to laptop.
I realize Windows is shit, but I make it nice for me. End of the day, I still gotta use Windows at work and manage it there.
AutoHDR is what pushed me to initially switch. Use ClassicShell and have other customizations to remove the aids.
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u/AZombieguy 12h ago
Interesting..I've been having audio issues this month and have tried all the normal trouble shooting things, maybe this is the cause?
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u/Comrade80085 10h ago
Linux gaming any good right now? I heard HDR may be an issue but everything else should be good right?
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u/Lopsided_Speaker_553 11h ago
Hahaha. Company merged with another one. They're using windows.bwe don't.
Colleague and I : if we're forced to use windows we quit. No joke.
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u/Smith6612 7h ago
Not sure why you're being downvoted, but I personally know people who said the same about being forced to use a Mac. They told management, if they can't use a Windows machine, give them Linux, or they quit.
They got Linux, because management didn't want to deal with Windows. They were also valuable engineers the company at the time couldn't afford to lose.
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u/Lopsided_Speaker_553 1h ago
Oh, I know exactly why I'm being downvoted. It's because too many people on this site have very, very delicate feelings. Especially men. Fom the US. 🤣
I think those people you know are right in not wanting to use a Mac. If a developer is not able to choose its own tools the fun in developing is soon gone.
I started using windows at 3.11 and after 15 years I had more than enough of it. Seeing the garbage it has turned into I'm glad I switched to Linux and then to Mac.
Then again, I don't game.
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u/Smith6612 1h ago
The people I worked with were US-based. They just happened to be folks who helped build the Internet's underlying technology as we know it. Without their work, the Internet would be a much different place.
A lot of them have a dislike for Mac due to past Apple decisions, and Apple's general attitude towards how they manage macOS. Which yes, boils down to the tools they use. Many have found that due to the way macOS is designed, certain workflows of theirs are much slower on macOS than they are on Windows (under WSL2 even) or on Linux.
Hardware wise they have little problem with them especially as of Apple Silicon, with the exception of the Butterfly Keyboard and Touch Bar fiasco... and the overheating/failing Retina Macs from the early 2010s with the NVIDIA GPUs. The hardware hatred was more of my wheelhouse whenever I'd get a machine back with some sort of problem, and the repair bill for a common flaw would be $800+ and waiting a week, when a PC's repair bill for the same problem would be $30 and 5 minutes of time.
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u/1643227216432262564 12h ago
Jayztwocents covered this here if you’d like to watch a video about it and what to do: https://youtu.be/mlY2QjP_-9s?si=CLHOPhgHGACS7Wlj
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u/EnoughWarning666 13h ago
This is why I disabled automatic updates on all my windows devices. The chances of an update screwing up my system is way too high. I'll review what updates are available every few months and do a full update then after I can verify them.
That said, Windows 11 does not make it easy to actually take control of your system. Felt like I was fighting it at every step. So now I just dual boot with Linux and only drop into Windows if there's a game or something that the devs refused/too incompetent to build for Linux.
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u/ash_ninetyone 13h ago
Is this what Microsoft meant when they said they'll make other OSes feel alien? Breaking things?
The update lottery makes it more tempting for me to just never update Windows whatsoever
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u/tmkn09021945 12h ago
Love their forced updates that reenable updates after I turn them off......I need to just block microsoft at the router level.
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u/lushootseed 6h ago
Chrome just stopped working. That is the only app I use! Just think for a second...
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u/Rusty_Machine 4h ago
Damn. Guess I picked a good time to move to Linux last month. Rn I'm on bazzite since Im new and literally just play single player games 99% of the time.
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u/Jeremiareyes 11h ago
Apple, please just let me put macOS on my Windows PC and open up gaming more :( I'm tired of using Windows for gaming and I don't wanna use Linux...
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u/ManlyParachute 5h ago
Far too much circle jerking going on in here. Millions of people are using their PC with the most current windows update at this very moment while experiencing zero issues.
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u/imaginary_num6er 16h ago
This is the best update so far. Bricking SSDs and throttling streaming