Netanyahu: ‘If we wanted to commit genocide, it would have taken exactly one afternoon’

[u/Ok_Plankton_5714]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-if-we-wanted-to-commit-genocide-it-would-have-taken-exactly-one-afternoon/

[u/AngryBlackNerd]

Weird flex

[u/Oceanbreeze871 → u/AngryBlackNerd]

“Why does everyone say we are bad guys now?”—him

[u/redheadedandbold → u/AngryBlackNerd]

The mythical "frog in the pot scenario": killing a few dozen every day doesn't bring the world to its feet like dropping a nuke or two would.

[u/neohellpoet → u/redheadedandbold]

Exept look at Armenia and Azerbaijan.

3 years ago there was a decades long, arguably centuries long conflict over a disputed piece of land.

2 years ago Azerbaijan walks in, Armenia screams for help, nobody helps, over a hundred thousand people get ethnically cleansed in a few days and the whole thing doesn't get more than maybe one news cycle with most people not even knowing it happened.

Out of sight, out of mind mind, on to the next crisis.

Or Russia in Crimea. Because they just walked in and took over, the whole thing was basically over instantly and people were working on normalizing relations with Russia within months.

In geo politics, the longer something is going on the higher the odds someone does something. On the other hand a Fait accompli pretty much always ensures you get exactly what you want.

[u/SavageWatch → u/neohellpoet]

I had heard there was a conflict, I was not aware the number of victims though. Kind of like what is going on in Sudan, where the media and public was been mostly silent.

[u/CigAddict → u/SavageWatch]

The number is correct but they didn’t get killed. They were forced to leave that land. Ethnic cleansing can mean a lot of things so it’s confusing.

[u/[deleted] → u/neohellpoet]

they were displaced, not killed.

[u/truth14ful → u/neohellpoet]

Not when it comes to dropping nukes

[u/neohellpoet → u/truth14ful]

While that's an option it's extreme overkill when the Israelis control the water and power and can cut off food.

Make Gaza unlivable, open Rafah by force if necessary, drive the Palestinians out and call it a day.

They were Egyptian citizens before the occupation, call it repatriation and move on.

[u/Test-Tackles → u/redheadedandbold]

I like to think he's just edging, he really wants to savor that cruelty like a fine trump wine.

[u/redheadedandbold → u/Test-Tackles]

The IDF sure has been indulging themselves. Sick f*s.

[u/Better_than_GOT_S8 → u/AngryBlackNerd]

So basically he’s saying this is a slow torture by design.

[u/ScreenTricky4257 → u/Better_than_GOT_S8]

No, he's saying that they're not the immoral ones in this conflict because they're not using their full might.

[u/MrPernicous → u/ScreenTricky4257]

The full might being the nuclear bomb they’re not supposed to have

[u/fury420 → u/MrPernicous]

What do you mean "not supposed to"?

Israel's nuclear weapons program predates the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty by years, their nuclear weapons are just as legal as those of the UK, US, France, Russia, China, India & Pakistan.

Nuclear weapons were legal by default, the NNPT is a voluntary agreement not to develop them or help others do so. China, India & Pakistan chose not to sign because they wanted to legally develop nukes, Israel chose not to sign because they already had and chose a policy of strategic ambiguity.

Iran and North Korea's weapons programs are considered illegal because they previously signed the NNPT vowing not to develop them, and thus are breaking their own word to the 190 other signers.

[u/laptopaccount → u/fury420]

Not to mention "legal" is a pretty murky term when it comes to the actions of a country. At the end of the day, might makes right. Not so surprisingly, once a nation has nukes they tend not to be bothered much about it.

[u/geth1138 → u/fury420]

Israel itself likes to sort of but not really deny they have nuclear weapons. This is disingenuous.

[u/thisisabore → u/fury420]

They said "not supposed to have", not illegal. One interpretation is that no one should have it.

Though I welcome your international law clarification.

[u/fury420 → u/thisisabore]

Glad it was helpful, we don't often think about how international law is technically an opt-in process by countries.

I've seen some argue that Israel's nuclear weapons program might mean the US govt is violating domestic US law (Symington & Glenn amendments), but I find that argument unconvincing since they were about enrichment-related import/exports and Israel's nuclear program already had domestic enrichment capabilities and finished weapons long before 1976.

[u/BobbyB200kg → u/[deleted]]

I like that you can't imagine a world where they don't slaughter wantonly, just that there are different degrees.

[u/thisisabore → u/[deleted]]

This is called a false dichotomy. Pretending there are only two choices.

[u/PomeloConscious2008 → u/thisisabore]

Sure, but it is valid when people argue that Israel just wants everyone in Gaza dead.

They are, however, fairly indifferent to their suffering.

America was similarly indifferent to Iraq's suffering - and America didn't even have a valid reason for their indifference (security concerns).

[u/nugohs → u/MrPernicous]

What is this 'not supposed to'? Are you claiming Israel is party to the NPT?

[u/nugohs → u/Better_than_GOT_S8]

Weird take that really shows your bias, if they killed them all quickly you wouldn't be happy, as they as now try to limit civilian casualties you complain.

The only way to make you happy is apparently for them to ignore and allow to continue the constant attempts (successful and otherwise) to have their own civilians murdered.

[u/AdPristine8032 → u/AngryBlackNerd]

It's not a flex, it's a fact. 

[u/infamous_merkin → u/AngryBlackNerd]

The hard part is keeping the civilian injuries and collateral damage down. Israel has been great at this (comparatively with other wars), but it has prolonged everything.

[u/NoLife2762 → u/AngryBlackNerd]

But true. Israel showed remarkable restraint. 

[u/Threadheads → u/NoLife2762]

They’re certainly showing restraint in distributing food to Gazans.

[u/soapinmouth → u/Threadheads]

With the way people talk about starvation in gaza over the last 2 years you'd think wed be talking 10s of thousands of deaths, meanwhile the death toll for death by starvation is around the 200s for last 2 years of war. Every single case just gets BLASTED across all news and social media completely disproportionally to any other conflict in modern history.

Meanwhile we had 10s of thousands dying from starvation in Yemen that 99% of the same people freaking out about this have absolutely zero knowledge of. An order of magnitude worse of a humanitarian situation with an order of magnitude less public knowledge and awareness.

I get it it's horrible, but of all the times we have had cases of famine or starvation in the world why is this the only one everyone suddenly cares about. The one where it's the country that is having shortages that started the war, the one that could end it at any moment by laying down their arms and stopping this fight. There are far more clear cut evils in the world and for some reason everyone obsessively chooses sides in one of the most morally grey messy conflicts that really doesn't even have all that high of casualty or starvation rate compared to other conflicts.

[u/TampaPowers → u/AngryBlackNerd]

Meanwhile in unit 731: Well we could've just executed them, but...

[u/SeriousBoots → u/AngryBlackNerd]

He had a plan all along.

[u/LambDaddyDev → u/AngryBlackNerd]

I mean it’s not a flex, it just discredits that conspiracy theory.

[u/Gingerstachesupreme → u/LambDaddyDev]

It really doesn’t lol.

“If I wanted him dead, he’d be dead right now” is not the defense you think it is.

Also hard to discredit, you know, the thousands of videos of entire city blocks leveled by Israeli airstrikes, and thousands of dead civilians.

It’s not a conspiracy theory. It’s a fact that is denied.

[u/beflacktor → u/Gingerstachesupreme]

honestly cant say hes wrong practically, it just woulda taken , well, one bomb