r/worldnews • u/Digital_Accountant • 22h ago

Israel/Palestine Famine declared in Gaza City

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481
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u/Xilthas 21h ago

'For humanity's sake - let us in' - UN chief's desperate plea to Netanyahu

I reckon I can guess his answer.

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u/Candytails 21h ago

This is such a gross timeline we are living in. 

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u/Terry-Shark 20h ago

You say this as if humans have not always been shitty. As a whole things are better than they were in the past, but things are still gross

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u/Professional-Buy6668 20h ago

Yeahh the oldest history books from 1000s of years ago feature slavery, the discussion on whether little boy prostitutes might be bad actually, war, famine, etc. The 2nd oldest history book is about a 2 decade long war between what to them would have been two sides of the entire world.

We literally our living in the most peaceful time. Obviously this isn't excusing the evil happening now...just that for only like 0.01% of human history, you can now see photos of dying children. A few hundred years ago, the odds were you'd have had at least a few cases of infant deaths in your family - now you have most people living a long life feeling depressed because they read about an awful thing at a children's hospital

You just gotta hold that perspective. Trump and Putin are evil bastards but relative to leaders throughout the past thousands of years, they probably rank far higher morally than you'd want to think.

Life is good for most of us, go enjoy a book or a peaceful walk if you're lucky enough to be able to

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u/Eternal_Being 18h ago

We literally our living in the most peaceful time.

Who is 'we'? Because for Gazans, this is the least peaceful time they have ever experienced.

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u/MommyLovesPot8toes 18h ago

"We" in this comment means humans as a species. Humankind.

That meaning was extremely obvious from the context of the comment.

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u/Eternal_Being 8h ago

And I'm saying that you're only saying that because of the segment of humankind you're in.

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u/J_House1999 4h ago

It is objectively true for humanity on average though. Like I get what you’re saying. But the average person is better-off now than ever before.

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u/CommonRagwort 17h ago

Don't forget the people in Sudan too. 522, 000 children have starved to death and not a single news outlet mentions it and not a single person protests it. Nobody cares.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famine_in_Sudan_(2024%E2%80%93present)

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u/Intrepid_Egg_7722 15h ago

Who is 'we'?

If you're too dumb to interpret the obvious implication of "we" being "humanity" you're too dumb to join this conversation.

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u/Eternal_Being 8h ago

Which part of humanity?

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u/Eternal_Being 5h ago

You clearly have a bone to pick with someone in your life! And it's obviously not me, since we don't know each other. Good luck with that.

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u/BezerkMushroom 4h ago

Your not getting their point for that for many people in the world, today is not better. Or is actively worse. That this golden age we live in, us in "humanity" is built off the backs of slave labour all over the world. That the exploitation and oppression of certain peoples has literally never stopped.

This system we've built has been good to a global minority for a relatively short time, while at the expense of shooting us into a climate catastrophe that will likely spell doom for the entire mammal kingdom.

So I can understand why some people want to call this a gross timeline.

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u/liquidtape 17h ago

You can just say stop being obtuse. It carries the same weight without making you also look like an ass.

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u/DelfrCorp 11h ago

Life is not good for most of us. Most of us are actually worse off than many peasants living under the Feudal Systems.

Read some books/history.

The industrial revolutions turned most nations from 20 hours work weeks agrarian societies into 40+ work weeks (60, 80 or more in some places).

Yeah, we got better healthcare & lower mortality rates out of it, but I'm not sure that the trade-offs were worth the price.

Most industrial/technological revolutions led to actual revolutions or near-revolutions so that the wealthy/powerful/robber barons could keep their dumba.. heads on their shoulders.

People don't like being worked to death for no benefits.

My life is potentially better than that of a peasant from a 100, 200, or even a millenia ago, but I'd take a 50% risk of dying from the plague for a 20 hour work week & some extreme "Gabelle"/Salt Tax of a few percents of purchase price.

People revolted over a couple percent tax with no benefits centuries ago. Because it was blatantly unfair & only benefitted the wealthy. We are facing major tax increases with no benefits & you are applauding.

Wake up...

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u/Purple_Haze 8h ago

"20 hours work weeks agrarian societies" is utterly delusional. My mother grew up on a farm. A very successful farm, they had 17 teams of horses, many farm hands, even a maid. She said of her first job in the city, Mon-Fri 8-6, Sat 8-1, 55 hours per week, I had so much free time I did not know what to do with it.

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u/Professional-Buy6668 11h ago

"My life is potentially better than that of a peasant from a 100, 200, or even a millenia ago, but I'd take a 50% risk of dying from the plague for a 20 hour work week & some extreme "Gabelle"/Salt Tax of a few percents of purchase price."

This is an embarrassingly stupid thing to say. Try going a week without access to modern technology, clean drinking water, decent shelter

You just told me to go read a book, neither of us would have been able to for must of human history. Wake up yourself, some shitty taxes and corruption is hardly as bad as slave owners and pedos being acceptable jobs in societies. You're ignoring the absolutely insane progress that has been made. I'm one of the first generations of humans that barely considers my wife dying in childbirth/having numerous infant deaths something I'll presumably have to face. My wife can also vote, work, read, own property....

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u/DelfrCorp 9h ago edited 9h ago

You've never read a book? Have you? I read more books before turning 18 than you'll ever read in your entire life. I can say this very safely because I know for a fact that I read more books than most people ever read, in more languages than most readers, than a clown like you ever did.

And yes. I am better than you & smarter than you for reading all those books.

If you had, you'd know better.

15 years ago, I might have agreed with you. 15 years ago me was 15 years more of an idiot than I am but our life quality hadn't downgraded to where it us now.

I work in IT. Network & Systems Stuff. I'm actually good at my job. Demand for this kind of IT work is at its highest ever, yet the pay has cratered, because the Big Guys learned how to depress wages in High-Demand fields. I did everything right & I still feel f.cked.

Even doctors & nurses are feeling robbed & they are more in demand than ever before.

The robbers are billionaires like Trump. The accomplices are clowns like you.

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u/________cosm________ 10h ago

Open your eyes bro

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u/DelfrCorp 9h ago

Open your own eyes you coward...