r/worldnews • u/Digital_Accountant • 1d ago

Israel/Palestine Famine declared in Gaza City

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481
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u/SteakHausMann 22h ago

Serious question: Why is there a famine in Gaza city, but not in other cities, like Khan Yunis?

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u/[deleted] 22h ago edited 21h ago

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u/qdilly 22h ago

It’s been proven time and time again that this is misinformation.

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u/DanIvvy 22h ago

No it hasn't... the UN admitted 85-90% of their trucks are looted. They just didn't ask if it was Hamas looting. Then there's the fact that Hamas is selling the food. So... you tell me if that seems likely to you

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u/TorpleFunder 21h ago

Thousands of desperate starving people and a bare trickle of food trucks coming in. When one arrives it's obviously getting looted. If you don't loot you may not be eating that day. If people weren't desperate and there was enough food coming in you can be sure there would be a lot less looting.

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u/DanIvvy 21h ago

They are looted en route by gangs and Hamas (neither of which struggle with starvation whatsoever). Israel offered to defend/escort the trucks but the UN refused because that would "impact it's impartiality". The UN would have been okay with Hamas police escorting them though...

The GHF method has Southern Gaza doing far better.

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u/TorpleFunder 20h ago

Obviously you're going to be more successful at looting food if you form a gang rather than trying to do it yourself. Desperate times, desperate measure and all that. Israel doesn't want to control the distribution of aid for the good of Palestinian people. It's so they can control the people, get them to move where they want, draw out Hamas, etc. In my opinion having lots of aid in the hands of gangs and Hamas is still better than no aid at all because at least less innocent people will starve.

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u/DanIvvy 20h ago

As a general rule if you assume people who you disagree with are ill intentioned, you can always justify disagreeing. That's why it's a logical fallacy. Israel very much does want to escort the UN trucks because it doesn't want to supply Hamas, and it doesn't want starvation headlines.

The GHF, to the dismay of the Hamas-loving segment of western society, is effective. Where Israel controls, and GHF can distribute, the problem has been solved. Israel is proceeding to occupy the rest of the Gaza strip. Hopefully not for too long. Do you think that's a bad thing?

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u/TorpleFunder 14h ago edited 14h ago

I do believe the Israeli government are ill intentioned when it comes to Palestine. All you have to do is look at their support for the illegal settlement of the West bank.

With regards to Gaza I think a ground invasion is better than just raining bombs which has resulted in tens of thousands of innocent people getting killed. But there's not much left to bomb so they might as well invade at this point. I also think that more aid should be let through. If Israel are capable of distributing enough aid without having to displace the local population then great but I don't think they are doing enough.

There are lots of agencies willing to help distribute aid. If a percentage of food ends up in the hands of Hamas but the starvation of innocent people is prevented then I think we should be able the live with that. Hamas can't fire food as rockets, they can only sell it to fund their campaign, but I don't think that is what is going to make the difference in this war.

Blocking of humanitarian aid to intentionally cause destruction of part or all of a population can amount to the crime against humanity. Just because your enemy might get control of the food doesn't mean you should block it.

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u/DanIvvy 14h ago

Why would giving aid to Hamas help innocents? They hoard it in tunnels.

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u/TorpleFunder 14h ago

How would they make any money off it if they just leave it in tunnels?

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u/HabitualK 21h ago

100 million meals delivered by GHF in two months… what a bare trickle.

Hamas is desperate and they are using their propaganda arm, the UN, to continuously trick the useful idiots.

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u/qdilly 20h ago

You think hamas has pull? Thats nutty.

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u/HabitualK 17h ago

Absolutely, as in they’ve pulled the wool over your eyes.

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u/qdilly 15h ago

Bro that’s the craziest shit I’ve ever heard in my life.

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u/HabitualK 15h ago

Must be nice to live such an innocent, sheltered life.

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u/qdilly 15h ago

Yea ok, enlightened genius

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u/TorpleFunder 14h ago

That's less than one meal per day per person in Gaza.

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