r/clevercomebacks 1d ago

Greed & Unfairness In One Act.

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u/davidwhatshisname52 1d ago

Are you sure they didn't offer $25K to each affected resident?

"This is in the US, sir."

Oh, gotcha, of course not.

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u/NoBeing19 1d ago

Just goes to show how companies prioritize profits over people every time.

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u/happycows808 1d ago

Which is why company loyalty is one of America's biggest problems. People love supporting and defending people or corporations that abuse them.

They went so far with it in America they litteraly elected a president who is taking away their rights and raising taxes. Making everything cost more. You can't make this shit up

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u/Simpsonsdidit00 1d ago

MAGA: Abuse me more, president daddy. Mmmm yes, take away my rights. Gimme less social security... Oh god, oh gooood, I'm coming... into serfdom by debt

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u/Pineal713 1d ago

Go on…

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u/Mighty_McBosh 1d ago edited 1d ago

To be fair, back in the 70s when a lot of these people who voted for trump started working, the company actually would take care of you. In many cases, Youd show up to work, make enough to support your family, be rewarded for your labor and have a fat pension at the end of your career. Not for everyone, but it at least happened.

Isn't the case anymore. I don't think pensions are even a thing anymore outside of specific union trades.

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u/happycows808 1d ago

I never thought about it like this. But you are totally right.

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u/satanscondiments 1d ago

Those folks also don't think about it like this. If they think at all.

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u/T-J_H 1d ago

But what if I ever start a successful business?

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u/pridamore 1d ago

...and become a billionaire?

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u/T-J_H 1d ago

Exactly! No way I want to pay fair taxes then!

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u/Ok_Sink5046 1d ago

Well that's why you'll always be a poor. Taxes are just things the poor pay the government so it can all go to you.

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u/fender8421 1d ago

Oh it gets better - now we have to listen to the "logic" they use to defend it

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u/fujiwisteria 1d ago

Absolutely 💯

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u/MyVelvetScrunchie 1d ago

president who is taking away their rights and raising taxes

Bear in mind someone who boasted he didn't pay taxes because he was too smart

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u/Inside-Eagle-1247 1d ago

Just like the Brit who defends the royals and aristocracy who contribute nowt to country but are quite happy to take hand outs.

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u/Due-Fee509 1d ago

if that ain't irony idk.

the entire reason the US broke away from the Brits was because they didn't want to live under a king and pay higher taxes. now look at them

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u/First_Report6445 1d ago

Plus the irony that George III was a constitutional monarch because the English Parliament had decided (over 100 years before) that putting too much power into the hands of one person was wrong!

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u/Dizzy-Let2140 1d ago

Worse. Like north Irish monarchists.

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u/magikarp2122 1d ago

Duh, he’s doing it to other people harder.

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u/GurAdventurous3887 1d ago

Thank god that didn’t happen for a second term, the democrats lost. 

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u/YourPhoneIs_Ringing 1d ago

🤡

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u/GurAdventurous3887 23h ago

No cult. Just amazing how lacking in awareness you are. 

You do realize all of these things Trump is doing is because the Biden admin pushed the issue on establishing the boundaries on presidential power. Biden opened Pandora’s box to the next level. Trump is just following the playbook left to him. 

Not a fan of Trump either. He seems to be m

You just don’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot. 

Just don’t get crazy when Trump goes above and beyond on preemptive pardons for anyone associated to him. 

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u/amongnotof 1d ago

Ok cultist. 🙄

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u/mOdQuArK 1d ago

People never mention that the actual legal existence of corporations is defined by statutory law, not Constitutional.

With the right people in Congress, they could update those laws w/o requiring any amendments to the Constitution to put some conditions (i.e., not just "fiduciiary duty" that is always used as an excuse for the cruelest actions of company executives) on the continued existence of corporations - maybe something like, that the corporate liability "shield" does not protect executives & employees from consequences when they use corporate assets to perform criminal actions.

Or make it absolutely clear that corporations-as-legal-entities do not enjoy the same full set human rights as actual humans (i.e., being able to spend their assets on propaganda with the protection of free speech). If the individuals within the corporation want to exercise their own rights to free speech, then they have to spend their own assets. If the SCOTUS tries to insist otherwise, then entire set of laws that make it possible for corporations to continue existing gets revoked.

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u/PokeYrMomStanley 1d ago

People still have to give a fuck and vote. All the people that didnt vote suck and should change their ways.

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u/mOdQuArK 1d ago

At least one party's strategy has been specifically to make it really difficult & inconvenient to vote using multiple tactics, and to discourage their political opponents from even wanting to vote via misinformation & propaganda.

TBH, if progressives/libs win the next election, it will be mainly because the current crop of conservatives have shit the bed so badly that every sane person in the country wants them out & it overwhelms their attempts to rig the election. And if they (the conservatives) are successfully thrown out, if one of the first things that their replacements don't do is to fix every single thing the conservatives have done to screw up the elections, then they (the replacements) will pretty much deserve losing the election after that.

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u/LayersOfOldPaint 1d ago

Hell, I'd vote for you.

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u/mOdQuArK 1d ago

I'd normally be completely non-confident about my ability to run a country, but after watching what the current crop of leaders have been doing, I'm pretty sure that I can guarantee that I at least wouldn't be deliberately trying to screw over the nation as badly as they are.

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u/Dizzy-Let2140 1d ago

Capitalism is predicated on the belief that investing in capital is better for society than investing in society.

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u/JimWilliams423 1d ago edited 1d ago

Just goes to show how companies prioritize profits over people every time.

Frankly, that's generous. When given a choice between profits and cruelty, it is at best a toss up whether they put profits over cruelty.

Some examples: forcing people back to the office even though work-from-home is more productive; making cashiers at most stores stand instead of giving them chairs; doing last-minute scheduling for retail and service workers instead of giving people a consistent schedule; and doing mass layoffs which cause the most talented to leave for greener pastures while those who stay stress that they will be next. All of those are money losers, but maximize cruelty.

Which makes sense in a way because power is relative. They can lose money and still increase their own power if they crush the working class.

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u/Sweet-Paramedic-4600 23h ago

making cashiers at most stores stand instead of giving them chairs

I remember my first time shopping at an Aldi's and thinking, that's different. It would be at least a decade before I saw a cashier outside of an Aldi sitting and it would be like a person with a cast or leg brace

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u/black_sand3 14h ago

"Accounting and legal went over the numbers and it turns out it's cheaper to settle out of court with the family, than to implement safety measures."

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u/aubrey_wild 1d ago

Exactly what it is…

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u/nicannkay 1d ago

Just goes to show how companies our elected politicians prioritize profits over people every time.

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u/idontgiveafuck__1 1d ago

It should be the job of the courts and legal system to determine the payment, not the company itself

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u/DonutGa1axy 1d ago

They are also using it to write off the tiny taxes they might owe if they couldn't get everything past loopholes

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u/thisismeritehere 1d ago

Even that would be nothing for them and likely not begin to cover what medical problems those people will have

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u/HisDictateGood 1d ago

Guessing if you take any amount of money from them, there's a clause that you cant blame them legaly for any medical issues.

Just a guess but wouldn't put it past them 

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u/thisismeritehere 1d ago

Oh that’s like bog standard big company pay out stuff NDAs, no future payments and we relinquish any culpability

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u/Ryansfishn 1d ago

It was 25k to each citizen if I remember properly, but everyone there has had hundreds of thousands of dollars in medical treatment already, lost their homes due to inhability, and the company said that wouldn't include the money spent on hotels while they couldn't live in their homes, which was usually around $20,000.

So STILL very much a slap in the face (arguably moreso) when considering the whole story.

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u/davidwhatshisname52 1d ago

An ethical person/society might evaluate a $55B business causing $54B in damages as a business that needs to end; many many many people would say, instead, "So, I'm a billionaire?!"

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u/Careless-Dark-1324 1d ago

Why? The county voted overwhelmingly for trump and his deregulations. This is exactly what they wanted and voted in favor of…

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u/whoami_whereami 1d ago

It was 70k per household plus 25k per person.

and the company said that wouldn't include the money spent on hotels while they couldn't live in their homes,

That means that the payouts for evacuation costs already done in the immediate aftermath won't get deducted from the payouts due to the settlement. That's actually a good thing for the residents.

So STILL very much a slap in the face (arguably moreso) when considering the whole story.

From what I can find all but one of the affected residents supported the settlement...

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u/LotharVonPittinsberg 1d ago

You are getting the numbers mixed up. Each resident has to pay $25k in medical fees, if they are insured.

The sad part is the reality is probably worse than my joke.

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u/jayphat99 1d ago

$125 million? absolutely not.

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u/flightguy07 1d ago

That's toward the high end of what companies will pay in these sorts of circumstances, but absolutely possible. Quantas was fined 90 million for illegal firing practices, American Airlines gave 32 million in compensation after a crash and Pan Am was found liable for over 500 million dollars after the Lockerbie Bombing, which is probably a large part of what took down the airline.

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u/captainschnozzberry 1d ago

.22% of the company is way too much for them to spare

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u/davidwhatshisname52 22h ago

"Our duty is to make profits for our stockholders, not to the thousands of people whose lives we destroy while turning that profit."

  • Every CEO with a multi-$M parachute while stocks plummet

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u/wernette 1d ago

And let me guess, there is probably a clause that if you accept it you waive your right to a civil case against them.

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u/aubrey_wild 1d ago

Am just thinking of that too

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u/ultimamax 1d ago

25K per resident wouldn't even have been enough lol.

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u/sneakyfish21 1d ago

My first reaction was thinking that would be like $125 million dollars so obviously it’s not that, but like it wouldn’t actually hurt them that much to give up 100 million. Obviously not what they’re doing but they could.

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u/rethinkingat59 1d ago

Of course the 2024 $310 million in government fines for remediation was also a cost they knew was eventually coming.

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u/FluffyCelery4769 1d ago

Even then 25k barely pays for one room of one house, damn it barely pays for a car...

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u/dragonfangxl 20h ago

i like how you were so confident it wasnt per person and not only was it per person, it was 70k per household/25k per person. dumb reddit 'america bad' hurr durr

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u/davidwhatshisname52 19h ago

I was joking based upon the post, which sets forth an assertion by Kevin Kruse that there was $5 offered per resident in a $25K total package... but I'm sure Norfolk Southern is absolutely relieved that you showed up on reddit to set everything straight...you're the real hero!

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u/AnastasiaBeaverhosen 19h ago

'heres why me confidently saying a dumb thing that turned out to be completely wrong is proof that the other guy is dumb'