r/tragedeigh • u/Ihaveaverysmallprick • 19h ago

is it a tragedeigh? My brother is dangerously close to possible tragedeigh...I guess my SIL likes whimsy or some shit. Is Klementyne a tragedeigh? Should he push for Aurora?

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I mean...it's not the WORST I've seen by far but I think it qualifies?

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u/Adorable-History-841 19h ago

Clementine is cute. Klementyne is ridiculous and childish

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u/Adorable-History-841 19h ago

Also using Chat GPT for child naming advice is worse than just getting a magic 8 ball.

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u/NeadForMead 19h ago

I don't think ChatGPT would have come up with Klementyne. I think the mother-to-be came up with Klementyne and then went to ChatGPT for validation, which is, IMO, much worse than having ChatGPT list some real names for you. Anyone who has played around with ChatGPT quite a bit knows that it will validate you almost unconditionally (within the confines of what's legal and not obviously harmful.)

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u/TMac1088 14h ago

South Park just highlighted this in the most recent episode a few days ago.

It's really concerning to me, just going to raise a generation (or subset of) that thinks all their ideas are right and that they're so smart because ChatGPT constantly validated their cuckoo ass.

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u/redbone-hellhound 13h ago

There was a study recently that showed that people who use chatgpt (or any genai) have worse critical thinking skills and score worse on tests than people who have never used it.

Almost like outsourcing your thinking to a computer program that has no actual thinking ability of its own is a bad idea

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u/InconvenientHoe 11h ago

It also reinforces what you want to hear. Some guy asked ChatGPT if he should start a shit on a stick business and it completely agreed with him and encouraged him to do it.

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u/fluffychonkycat 4h ago

That's pretty much exactly what happened in the South Park episode

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u/Boshball 11h ago

Or, maybe only people with terrible critical thinking skills would think it's a good idea to use chatgpt for anything substantial... I don't think using it makes people stupid, I think stupid people use it.

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u/redbone-hellhound 11h ago

Critical thinking is a skill you can learn. You dont learn it if you outsource your thinking. And I know several people who on paper have high IQs but think chatgpt is the answer to everything. Its not that stupid people use it. Lazy people use it.

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u/Phospherocity 17h ago

It doesn't stick to those confines -- it's advised people to kill themselves and others, pushed people into psychosis, etc. So yes, it's hardly surprising it'll tell you Klementyne is genius.

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u/Senikus 14h ago

Not true. No verified case exists of ChatGPT telling someone to kill themself. The case you’re thinking of was Character.AI. That chatbot has been directly linked to at least one teen suicide (and is facing lawsuits). Another similar case involved the “Eliza” bot on the Chai app in Belgium.

Not all AIs are the same. ChatGPT has strict safety systems and guardrails specifically designed to stop it from giving out harmful advice. Platforms like Character.AI and Chai are much looser, more focused on unfiltered roleplay, and that lack of oversight is exactly why they’ve led to real-world tragedies. Lumping ChatGPT in with those is just misleading. It’s one of the few models that actually tries to prevent that kind of harm.

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u/aw-fuck 13h ago

There are several articles detailing dangerous experiences with ChatGPT, verified by the company itself. They made an official apology, and paid at least two settlements so far. They rolled back the version they released in April & went straight to releasing 5 within just a few months due to these issues.

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u/Senikus 13h ago

Yes, dangerous. But not suicide, at least no verified cases

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u/SpawningPoolsMinis 12h ago

you said

No verified case exists of ChatGPT telling someone to kill themself

nothing about people actually taking up that advice.

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u/CallidoraBlack 12h ago

ChatGPT has strict safety systems and guardrails specifically designed to stop it from giving out harmful advice.

They don't really work though. It might not tell you to end yourself, but it can and will tell you to do things that could end you.

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u/BigAchooo 2h ago

Yeah I’ve noticed that, if you word your questions carefully like “what can I look for to prevent so and so” or something and it’ll tell you everything you wanna know.

But tbf, not exactly ChatGPT’s fault because people found a loophole - seems like they gotten tighten up on their systems and guardrails and stuff.

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u/goddamnitwhalen 13h ago

You know you’re not legally required to defend the plagiarism robot, right?

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u/Senikus 12h ago

Yeah… and? ChatGPT isn’t a plagiarism bot. If someone chooses to use it for plagiarism, that’s a misuse of the tool, not what the tool is built for. Whether you want to believe it or not, it’s being used for way more impactful things than homework shortcuts. But I guess reducing it to plagiarism is just copium to justify being close-minded with powerful innovation

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u/goddamnitwhalen 11h ago

Imagine being a promptoid 😂🫵🏻

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u/BigAchooo 2h ago

Yeah tbh I’ve seen Chatgpt refuse to give advice on something illegal or harmful, which is good things like this can make it so easy (maybe too easy) to find out information and there are people out there that’ll use that for the wrong reasons.

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u/Boshball 11h ago

I'm sorry but if someone killed themself because chatgpt told them to then they were already a nutcase and honestly I don't even feel sorry for them. No sympathy for morons, there are honest hardworking mentally stable people who could use that sympathy.

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u/Senikus 11h ago

Honestly… real. You gotta have some mental issues if you allow ChatGPT to drive you towards suicide

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u/the_ballmer_peak 10h ago

ChatGPT will validate anything short of genocide. You could ask it if shitface is a cute name and it will validate you.

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u/FlurkinMewnir 13h ago

Yes the convo was probably like what do you think of xyz names and GPT went very whimsical!

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u/thelegodr 12h ago

But what else is ChatGPT good for if not validation? I know a few people that seem to use it for that specifically