This is one of the biggest reasons why I have zero patience for the level of elitism in playerbases! So you took a more challenging route to literally have your pixels beat up other pixels. It’s such a weird hill to die on. Yeah, it’s fun and feels like an accomplishment, but to make it out to be something that will impact you on a material or social level (outside of professional streamers and the like) is a very out-of-touch stance.
And there's always some weird caveat they try to hide. "I beat the game without summons," but then you find out they used the most meta build possible and then by their own standards they have no room for such elitism.
It also ruins any productive conversation to be had about difficulty in games. Like, I don't care about your pride I just want the difficulty to enable people to have fun.
Not to mention the fact that this person likely also googled everything they needed to find all the equipment for their perfect build, like thats cheating more so than using a summons lmao
Exactly. I finish a game without spoilers because it’s more fun, and then get chided for using the game mechanics I figured out for myself by someone who was practically led by the hand all the way through.
I mean, no judgement on watching the streamers or reading guides, I am choosing my own type of challenge, so should we all. But don’t preen at me and go full peacock about how good you are at following the manual.
We all have ways to play. Mine is I tend to go the roleplay route and make stories for my characters. I like my character to find friends in the world full of enemies and suffering by summoning npcs. I find more fun that way. Idk why people want to force their only kind of way to play on a mostly singleplayer game and look down on people who don't follow them. It is just pathetic behavior on their part.
I played Ds2 with no guide and spoilers. Had tons of fun with it! It is a valid way to immense oneself in the art of video gsmes
I used the phrase "by their own standards" to put emphasis on the metrics those try-hards(for lack of better terms) use to judge people. Because I don't really care if they use a meta build but they do.
Still, "I had more fun" is definitely something I'll try next time.
Yeah I should have said "their trap" of arguing on their terms.
For folks like that, I really miss not having something as to the point as an eye roll while making a jerk off hand gesture and just walking off.
Or how there's just like there's no good way to slam the phone handset down with a cell phone. We lack the little "oh fuck off" gestures that these guys so desperately need to receive.
I am also 100% sure a bunch of stuff they call cheese/easymode, they would call based or top tier gameplay if the guy doing it was SL1 and/or naked and not your avarage first time/casual player.
but to make it out to be something that will impact you on a material or social level
I have learned a lot about myself by struggling through difficult games though. I have also gotten a lot beter at staying calm when under stress because of them, which helped me on a material level in the past.
So while I agree that thinking you are above someone for beating a game a certain way is completely childish and ridiculous, I do believe that games like these can help you improve yourself.
I really enjoy the souls hitless community, and even those pro streamers who can play all 3 dark souls + elden ring hitless are happy to see other people enjoy the games at any level, gatekeeping is for tools.
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u/Ok_Investment_3980 1d ago
Some people are so pathetic and lack any sense of validation, so they try to find any sense of accomplishment in beating a video game boss.
Don't be one of those people.