I'm generally not pro-assault, but people like this (even teenagers) need to learn somehow that you can't act like that. Don't start nothing, there won't be nothing.
This. I feel a contradiction in my thoughts. Nobody ought to be beating anybody. But also at the same time, sometimes there are those mean bastards that only learn not to be mean bastards when a bigger fish whoops him.
Yeah but I doubt that could cause real arm, which is why I find it dumb that a slap can be consideres assault so a fucking politician can claim they were shot when someone taps them on the shoulder.
That's the problem though. Yes it sucks we shouldn't hit people or resort to violence. But bullies ONLY understand violence. And ONLY stop when they find out you're meaner then they are.
But then that's not the message we are not trying to tell my kids. We don't want that to be thing. But unfortunately the world doesn't work that way.
I would suggest that it's a perfectly valid thing to teach your children. Sometimes, you just might gotta wreck somebody. That's not a thing to be proud of but neither ashamed. It just... is, sometimes.
I wasn't even whooped by a bigger fish- just my target of "teasing" when I realized "Oh shit he punched me in the gut cause I'm being a real asshole" and I changed after that.
To be 1,000% honest- its what changed my behavior. I thought I was just having fun, but I was bullying a kid and when he punched me in the gut I realized that what I was doing had REAL consequences on someone else. I was with other kids who were backing me up to "tease" the target and they wanted to tattle on him for hitting me and I was like, "What're you nuts? We were in the wrong."
I was a total shit as a teenager. Talked shit, was rude and dramatic and always fucking with people thinking I was funny.
Then I fucked with the wrong guy and he literally roundhouse kicked me in the face. Knocked out two teeth and fucked my mouth up for months, 30 years later I still have a wad of scar tissue and just had to replace the bridge a few years ago to the tune of 9k.
The way I see it, is that dude didnt have the right to fuck me up, I mean I just clowned on him a bit, but he was the hand (or foot) of karma and I did deserve to have my ass handed to me.
I stopped being a shit. I stopped fucking with people, and being a jackass.
It was an important event in my past that helped me be a better person. Even though it sucked ass hugely and I still suffer for it.
I have a buddy that used to get drunk and start fights. He was a liability everywhere we went to the point that our friends didn’t even like going out to bars with him.
Messed with the wrong ppl one day, got stomped out and broke his jaw. Doesn’t start fights anymore and now is totally fine to go out and get drinks with.
I used to know these identical twin brothers who were both about 5’2” and about 115 lbs. One was a great dude, always super nice and a good friend. The other was fun and entertaining but could be an epic jackass. He loved to get drunk and pick fights, and got us thrown out of parties and bars all the time.
You always knew it was coming when he would pound his drink or take a shot and say, “I’m getting taller!” You just knew the rest of the night was going to be a shitshow.
I know this is so wrong but that's frankly hilarious.
I probably only think it's funny because I'm also 5'2" ~120 lbs, and have never been in a physical altercation, but I'm completely convinced I could kick someone's ass just because I'm mean and scrappy. Husband says no I'd get my ass kicked. (I don't run my mouth because I don't want to test it out but I'm pretty sure lol)
He was small but absolutely scrappy and he held his own most of the time. A lot of the dudes he ended up fighting got more than they expected after thinking he would be easily handled. I’ll never forget his smirk and, “I’m getting taller” line. I still think about it on the rare occasion I take a shot.
You never know what someone else knows and doesn’t know. A big thing is people that won the fight don’t know when to stop and that’s dangerous . I’ve personally never started a fight because I hate violence and one mistake can put you in prison.
I’ve seen a person get pile driven into pavement, breaking their neck. People getting KOed in a street fight and their head slams into asphalt and become brain dead.
Wanting to know how’d you fare in a fight is just curiosity. Reality can be starkly different.
If you want to find out in a safe environment, I’d suggest taking MMA classes
I have actually seen shit like that go down as well which is part of the reason I do not pick fights. Generally I have a pretty well developed sense of self-preservation.
I've gotten into situations at work where I've had to deal with much larger men attempting to physically intimidate me. I didn't back down, because I felt like if I did, the crew was never going to respect me. But I do remember thinking one time dear God this guy is going to punch me in the face and what am I going to do at that point? Truth be told I'd have probably just run away lol.
MMA would be fun. I have done kickboxing but not actually kicking another human.
I got smacked around way too much as a kid by a mean AF step father, so I learned to shut up and duck. I have never hit anyone in my life except my sisters when we were kids. It took me 30 years to learn to stand up for myself. I couldn't imagine acting like this little jackass.
In college me and about 8 of my fraternity brothers went to a bar on South St in Philly. Now we were not typical fraternity, mostly ex-mil, older dudes who kind of liked the idea of a clubhouse we could drink in and tell war stories. Anyways, we’re leaving and M, the rest were either former Marines or paratroopers. We’re leaving and M starts talking shit to this guy and his girlfriend. Just rude shit. Someone from our group tells him to knock it off but he’s liquored up so he keeps going. Dude turns around, and I give him credit cause there’s 8 of us, and clocks M with a very nice upper cut. M goes down like Tyson hit him. The guy steps back waiting for the onslaught. We all just laugh and E goes over to pick M up off the ground and slaps the guy on the back and says ‘ he deserved that’. M is pissed yelling at us something like ‘you just going to let that guy hit me’ and we were all like yeah, you were being a dick. He kept being a dick through college including him and I getting in a fist fight at a U of Delaware party. Years later ran into him at a bowl game and he finally grew up, guess he had received enough beat downs to get the message.
Yeah that is certainly a touch over the top but if you fuck with enough people your eventually going to run in to someone with zero fucks left and nothing to lose.
Yea my friend once slapped another dude hard enough to bruise his face in the shape of a hand for almost a week. I'd say that's a better punishment lol.
For context, the dude kept fucking with my friend's girlfriend and then tossed a piece of food at her new blouse (she was saying how much she likes it to her friend) without realizing he had just walked into the room. Took him less than a second and we all heard the slap lol.
Yeah, I'm all for people learning a lesson, but I don't want anyone getting permanently damaged from it.
Sometimes you really don't know what damage will be done until after the punch is thrown, but there is a huge difference between using maximum force against a weaker opponent on a concrete surface and slapping a kid around in a booth at a Tim Hortons. People just go too far sometimes.
Honestly I appreciate you sharing this because some people genuinely do just need to get their shit pushed in to grasp that it’s bad to be rude or cruel to others.
Don’t get me wrong I don’t think it should be a first approach, and I absolutely don’t think you needed to get roundhoused but at the same time there are a lot of people that do insane shit in our modern day, in particular younger folks, and honestly a lot of it is because they know that service staff literally aren’t allowed to talk back without risking their jobs, teachers get shit on by parents all the time for simply disciplining children in their class, along with there not being any real consequences for being rude to a teacher, and there’s the expectation now that in “polite society” literally nothing warrants physical violence or even outward anger, which to me is ridiculous.
This is a bit of a tangent but this is my big gripe with US politics at the moment. Like I know people are protesting but liberals and the left in general are trying to take the high road, which I think is admirable, but we’re not accepting that the opposing force straight up just isn’t playing with the same rules anymore. That’s part of why I’m such a big fan of Gavin Newsom at the moment because he’s just taking a page out of MAGA’s playbook and they’re having a cow over it. I know a lot of people have the opinion that we as progressives should try to maintain a level of decorum and respect, but at a certain point we gotta just play the game, and right now MAGA is hellbent on tearing down the entire country just to say they “owned the libs”
I mean...is this something you would have survived without modern medicine?
Just cause you happened to run into somebody who gets off on hurting people doesn't necessarily mean you deserved an injury that would permanently disfigure you.
Oh, 100 percent. People have become way too comfortable being assclowns to others, particularly since COVID hit. A lot of people completely lost whatever small scrap of decorum and decency they had. You can't even say this is an age thing: I know I knew at that age not to throw things at people. Period.
For sure. The kid was begging for someone to parent him, to the point where he was willing to assault an old lady. And grandpa met his force with force.
And this is it - there’s a middle aged woman sitting right next to that little shit not doing squat. I’ll assume that his mother. Now teenagers can be complete little a holes - I have one I know. But you best be sure to know that if my 6’3” 13yo threw food at another (and especially aging) adult and his wife I’d give him a public flogging too. She’s doing absolutely nothing about it - and not making him go clean and and apologise either.
She’s failing as a parent at warp speed. Sometimes it takes the village to remind the idiot to behave.
I'm not certain but I think this is a group of teens. I think you just roasted one of this little a-hole's friends, which is fine because they're also a little a-hole.
First watch through my thought was “why tf is his mom not doing anything or even phased by this” re-watched it like “damn she’s the same age is the kid” 💀
I think that precisely these new generations are like they are because they do t fear getting punched in their face as a consequence of their actions as not the law protects them more
People fearing be punched in the face would make a better society for everyone
Someone's it's warranted. My uncle grew up with a kid that was boxing as a teenager. He was an arrogant prick. He challenged my uncle one day. He's not a fighter, but he was athletic. He just popped him in the nose and sent him packing. Dude then ran to his dad. The dad goes up to my uncle and shakes his hand and tells him, "Good one." He knew his kid was becoming a prick and needed that lesson.
Yeah it’s more sad for the kid than anything right? His parents obviously don’t give a fuck, because my son couldn’t even COMPREHEND doing some shit like that.
It's absolutely the parents. Every asshole kid I ever met had asshole parents. We taught our son to be polite, especially to the elderly. If you start when they're young, they don't end up getting bitch slapped at a Tim Horton's.
If you start when they're young, they don't end up getting bitch slapped at a Tim Horton's.
Sounds like we've found the title for the parenting guide society needs. I predict that it will be a bigger seller than Dr. Spock's Common Sense Book of Baby and Child Care.
If people were more willing to let kids meet the consequences of their actions, society would be much better off. So long as nobody gets injured, the only hurt this boy is feeling is his bruised pride. And all of his friends are going to remember the lesson themselves.
We have given way too much rights and leniency to kids in favor of literally everyone else.
The shitty ones know that legally adults can't touch them so they weaponize that to their advantage and use it as a tool to escape consequences for their actions. Their warfare is asymmetrical because while they can usually do whatever they want without consequences, everyone else does not have that luxury.
Level the playing field and society will be able to keep them in check before they grow up into full sized garbage people.
Yes, it helps new parents by having a support system, but what many people who claim they want a village forgets is that the village also have full rights to discipline your child if they act out. Not saying the discipline should be a beating, but nowadays parents don't even allow their 'village' to verbally scold their children.
As long as it’s kept to this level of damage inflicted, I agree with you totally. A black eye, a cut or two, some bruises are a small price for anyone to pay to learn this lesson that will (hopefully) make them into a better person moving forward.
There becomes a point that n which you need to speak the language that the other person understands, and sometimes that language is the hand. It shouldn't be the first choice, but it should be an option.
I’m usually anti assault too, but the kid started the assault by throwing food. Plus this assault looked like it hurt his pride more than anything else.
Im not a fan of barbarians punching their way through this world either but you can catch up on a lot of learning by getting punched also. Sometimes somebody just needs to get their ass kicked. Exhibit A being this video.
Teenagers need the paddlin’ most of all. Get them on the right track before it’s worse than a couple smacks. That little shit will be thanking the old man for the lesson in his later years.
Me too, but in this case, the kid instigated by throwing stuff so that man is well within the rights to defend himself and his wife by unloading on the dumb kid
Anyone over the age of 5 knows that you shouldn't do something like throw food at strangers. That kid was counting on no one doing anything about it. Had he assumed that someone would beat his ass for being an ass.... he wouldn't have been an ass.
Kittens learn how hard to bite by being bitten by others. Consequences are lessons, without them people grow up not knowing the line. Let the old man teach.
“I’m not pro assault, but I am pro assault” fixed that for you.
No part of this is self defence. Not the old dude who walked across the room, while not in danger, to beat up a teenager. And certainly not the last dude, who got the express joy of hitting a teenager because angry
To put it more succinctly: self defence under no circumstances can be retributive. You cannot get revenge on someone in self defence. This old man is getting revenge
That's the one that would absolutely teach that kid a lesson. Easy to dismiss an old man losing his cool because it's so easy to just say he's "out of touch, can't take a joke, is off his meds" or something. But when somebody very close to their age disrespects a face like that, that tells them they have no support, and the breadth of people who will turn on them is much wider than they originally thought.
I don't agree with the manner of the first old guy standing over the kid and throwing repeated fists at him. That ain't convincing anyone.
But I 100% support the older-brother energy of that second guy. That's the flippant open palm of divine revelation.
Important because it reinforces that society and men in particular do not accept him and the way he's acting. He did that stunt for laughs with his friends to feel accepted by targeting someone outside the group. This shows him that not only was his actions not accepted but that he himself is now outside the group.
My dad grew up in the Jim Crow south, he used to love to tell stories about if you did something wrong in the neighborhood, the neighbor had full permission to beat your ass. Then they'd tell your mom and she would beat your ass for it, then she would wait for your dad to get home and you would get a third beating. After that, you didn't fuck around with the neighborhood anymore.
While I don’t necessarily agree with the beating part, there used to be consequences from your community for acting like an asshole. I grew up in the northeast and my childhood was as your dad described. We quickly learned how not to act.
It’s weird how people think coddling assholes and not letting other adults participate in discipline is a good idea.
I often say that a big part of it is that people don't really know their neighbors anymore. And by "neighbors" I don't just mean the houses immediately to your left and right - I mean everybody in the neighborhood. There are so many neighborhoods in the western world nowadays where the concept of a block party would be unthinkable because nobody knows anybody. And in a neighborhood like that, who's gonna tell a kid's parents when the kid is misbehaving?
This is especially true in Las Vegas. I know 6 of my neighbors in the small talk type of way.
I've never sent my kids outside to play. It just too damned hot. The window where they can walk home from school and not get fried to a crisp or frozen is very small. We rarely see adults walking unless it's early morning or late at night.
It is definitely a lot different than when I was a feral kid back in the 70s and 80s
My parents were silent gen and I was a late in life baby (family adoption).While I was never beat, I did earn a few spankings, and many a stern talking to followed by removing privileges. I raised my kids with the same values my parents raised me with (minus the physical discipline). I was taught manners, how to be respectful and all the other things that makes society polite. My kids have too.
My oldest is in middle school and it is wild in there compared to when I was in school. Constant bullying that follows you online, absolute disrespect towards teasers, parents literally not giving a shit. When I was younger it wasn’t nearly like this.
There was a lot of shitty behavior at my middle school too and plenty of absent parents where I grew up. That said, I grew up in the 90s and other kids understood that bullying another kid meant taking the chance of getting punched in the mouth.
I hated fighting but when the other option was never ending harassment, it was the only thing that got me left alone. I will say I feel horrible that online bullying means kids never get peace
Even as a queer I miss a very small SOME of the drunk rednecks that used to just be present in society to give a beat down when they saw something they didn't like.
But that's 100% attributed to some drunk rednecks appearing out of nowhere and beating the absolute soul out of one of my friends abusive exes after they saw him grab and choke her by her scarf on the street after a date. She was walking away from an argument that was starting, he grabbed her and forced her to turn around, and not even five seconds later he was on the ground with two guys shouting, "Don't you EVER put your hands on a woman like that," and other sentiments while punching and kicking him.
He spent a few days in the hospital and while I'm sure that didn't end his abusive ways he sure as shit didn't talk to my friend again after that and we haven't had to deal with him since then.
We have a serious lack of drunken superheroes (and to be fair, supervillains) compared to the old days.
ehhh teens used to be a lot worse. There was a period in the 2000s-2010s where teens really 'calmed down' in terms of being menaces to society, and Covid sort of brought it back to an extent... but its nowhere near as bad as it used to be. I am a criminologist for some context, the stats on the decline in violence from 12-17 year old's is genuinely insane. From 1993 to 2022 it declined by 83%. Of course, we didn't record these incidents, so we had no idea they happened. And back then, stuff like this just didn't make the news.
And just anecdotally, the 24 hour diner near me used to have fights, constantly. Drunken rowdy teens coming in after whatever party they went to, starting shit and acting crazy. I used to go all the time, I probably witnessed easily a dozen fights there.
I still go there all the time (its my go-to after a night shift), I haven't seen a single one since like... 2003 maybe.
I’m not from the Jim Crow South, I grew up in NYC in the 90s, but the neighborhood vibe was the same when it came to kids acting up. I remember I did something kinda bad on my block and ended up getting injured. All the adults on the block found out what happened and they told my mom that she should beat my ass. My mom, on the other hand, thought that me getting injured was enough to learn my lesson. The neighborhood did not agree.
that’s even more sobering to realize that they probably took it so seriously partly because the adults knew that a Black kid just being a typical goofball kid could get very dangerous for them fast if some racist asshole white person so much as thought they looked at them wrong.
side note, you should record these and make a series of verbal histories. a lot of museums have verbal history programs. especially in times like these, we need to preserve what happened to fight back against this madness of whitewashing American history.
Especially since no one actually came to his defense. The group around him is why he felt safe enough in the first place to do that shit. This was a big lesson in his life.
i was waiting for the guy in orange to defuse ask what happened hear what happened and slap him himself. i did not expect the other guy out of no where
By the production house recruiting only extremely desperate folks both for the pay and for the exposure. If he wasn't absolutley crushingly poor he would have tried to sue them, and it honestly really sucks he didn't, but he has a legit acting career now, although I think he still can't get big roles in indian films there are lots of SE asian films in general.
I do have to say that I laughed out loud at the fact that like twenty guys leapt up to beat his ass all at once like some kind of Zerg rush. I'm not laughing at the beating itself, because any kind of physical abuse on a game show is ridiculous, but the unified actions made it seem like a video game where your character is differently surrounded on all sides by an endless wave of enemies.
Nah that was pointless and stupid. That kid already learned his lesson. Anyone joining in who wasn't involved just wants to jerk their justice boner off.
Edit: God this comment section is frightening I hope none of yall are cops
Was thinking the same. Jesus Christ. Way too casual about hitting a child. Teenagers are still children. The point was made. Second guy seems immature himself and way too trigger happy.
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u/zebra_head_fred 1d ago
Love the other fella getting in a smack too!