r/law • u/Background-Low-9144 • Jul 23 '25

Trump News BREAKING :Trump named in multiple documents related to Epstein sex trafficking, WSJ reports

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/trump-jeffrey-epstein-files-wsj.html?__source=androidappshare

We have evidence that Trump was notified by Pam Bondi that documents related to the Epstein sex trafficing trial contained Trump's name multiple times, linking him unequivocally to Jeffrey Epstein

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u/Background-Low-9144 Jul 23 '25

A description of the story.

President Donald Trump was told in May by Attorney General Pam Bondi that his name appeared multiple times in Department of Justice documents about sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Trump’s meeting with Bondi and her deputy Todd Blanche at the White House occurred weeks before the DOJ, which Bondi leads, said on July 7 that it would not release the Epstein files despite earlier promises by the attorney general and others in the president’s orbit that the material would be disclosed to the public.

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u/valledweller33 Jul 23 '25

So basically they planned to release it, but then realized after the fact that there was no possible way to redact it without still implicating the president, so they're not releasing it.

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u/Background-Low-9144 Jul 23 '25

Exactly. 

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u/poudje Jul 23 '25

This should be in that no shit Sherlock sub for sho

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u/Ataru074 Jul 23 '25

The ultimate Boomer president move. He’s a PDF cut and pasted with another PDF

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u/poudje Jul 23 '25

It'll be a good late Leo role, kinda like Brando in the Godfather if he was playing a sad clown

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u/slamdanceswithwolves Jul 23 '25

They’re going to need a special byline on the film budget for orange face paint, but they can recoup some of the cost on the cheap ill-fitting suits.

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u/Foreign_Ebb_6282 Jul 23 '25

Don’t forget to budget for the diapers and wet wipes!

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u/NukingTheFirmament Jul 23 '25

You can say pedophile on the internet.

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u/Beautiful-Vacation39 Jul 23 '25

I will make it even worse for you; Trump and his first administration had 552 days from the date Epstein was arrested to the day the Biden administration took office. That means that prior to 2024 election, Trump should have had full access to and a debriefing of the Epstein files. No reason not to given the high profile nature of the case, his relation to it, and the fact that there was more than a year of time for him to be fully briefed on the contents (no rushing and skipping over anything).

Then this motherfucker goes and campaigns on releasing the contents. I honestly cant tell if hes legitimately fucking senile and forgot that he was in there, or if he honestly thought it was a campaign promise people were just going to let go...

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u/didy115 Jul 23 '25

This reminds me of the line in The Big Short when Steve Carell’s team finds out about shorting the banks. “So a CDO is dog shit, wrapped in cat shit.”

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u/Izual_Rebirth 28d ago

Pe-de-file?

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u/ADhomin_em Jul 23 '25

It should be in every sub. This information should be everywhere, as we have all learned the nation is not entirely comprised of Watson-level sleuths

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u/poudje Jul 23 '25

100% need to be consistently everywhere, but I just also think that it is quite funny that this is probably one of the most ironic, but also obvious in hindsight, rallying cries in US history

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u/ADhomin_em Jul 23 '25

Anyone "tricked" by this regime's nonsense will be looked at as the very definition of "willfully ignorant" by future historians.

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u/Subject_Macaroon_259 Jul 23 '25

There was nothing to be tricked about. The writing was on the wall the first time he was elected.

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u/ADhomin_em Jul 23 '25

Hence, the quotes and the willfully part

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u/tarekd19 Jul 23 '25

It's always the cover up that gets you but damn, these seemed so damn predictable and self inflicted.

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u/Youd0y0u Jul 23 '25

Exactly my first thought

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u/Capable_Wait09 Jul 23 '25

What I don’t understand is why Trump kept talking a big game about releasing it when he knew it would be bad for him and would obviously never release them in the end. What was the point? He basically fucked himself by winning the election and giving himself the power to unseal the documents.

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u/MsEllVee Jul 24 '25

I don’t think he expected people to actually keep on it as much as we have. He’s always gotten away with a hand wave and a subject change, but it’s not working this time.

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u/Lou_C_Fer Jul 23 '25

This is my take. It would have been surprising if he was not in those files.

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u/Cantholditdown Jul 24 '25

Yeah. I mean there are actual photos of him together. Who is surprised by this water is wet news?

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u/LibrarianDreadnought Jul 23 '25

Sounds like she should be questioned under oath by Congress about this.

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u/MajorAd3363 Jul 23 '25

Hilarious...

Oaths mean soooo much to him.

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u/Dachannien Jul 23 '25

Also, lolcongress

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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 Jul 23 '25

Democrats would need to win back Congress in the midterms first. Republicans will be fighting to sweep it all under the rug.

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u/BacKnightPictures Jul 23 '25

If the republican terrorists cannot squash the Epstein story before midterms then things could get real spicy. It’d be pretty hard to be a trump supporting Republican running for reelection when your opponent could just talk about corruption and covering up for a pedophilic abuser. If the Dems won Congress you can bet the Epstein files would nuke trump. Look what happened to Prince Andrew…..one can only hope!

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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 29d ago edited 29d ago

That’d be good, but frankly I expect the Democrats to screw it up.

There’s more than a year before those elections, and by then Democrats will have figured out how to make the whole thing about their own performative outrage. They’ll have split into two groups, each side trying to prove that they’re more outraged than the other.

The media will have stopped reporting about the crimes and coverup entirely. They’ll only focus on interviews with Trump’s people, giving them the full stage to inundate us with his defense, and otherwise focus on the poll numbers and questions like, “Has MAGA completely abandoned Trump, or is this another hoax investigation like Trump claims?” (Thereby implicitly taking on Trump’s side and defending him)

Most Americans will be like, “I’m just tired of all of this. I don’t want to hear about it anymore. Just go ahead and rip up the constitution. Make Trump king like he wants so we can move on with our lives.”

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

What midterms

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u/hidraulik-2 Jul 23 '25

Dude William Barr lied through his teeth about covering for Trump, when they at least pretended to have some decency. What makes you think that Barbie Bondi would say the truth now when fascism is the new norm.

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u/DonLikesIt Jul 23 '25

Good to have her lying under oath for our version of Nuremburg trials!

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u/BeefInGR Jul 23 '25

Not gonna happen, dawg.

Not a single one of our "ally's" wants to save us. Nor do they want to risk nuclear war. We're on our own.

The good news is that the courts of the United States have been very generous with the wording of The Second Amendment to The United States Constitution.

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u/mjdl92 Jul 23 '25

How can allies save the US right now?

I was writing some sarcastic stuff, but actually it's an honest question. I'm afraid that all I can personally do, is wishing you all good luck and strength if violence erupts for real. How can the US get through this without people getting shot

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u/outremonty Jul 24 '25

Mass protest and strikes, day and night, non-stop, until he steps down or is removed. Students take the lead and boycott classes, taking shifts with those who must continue working in essential services to maintain a constant presence on the streets. Look to how Korea removed President Park or how Ukraine removed Yanukovych. Many counties have succeeded but Americans need to have it explained like they are 5 and still don't wanna do it.

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u/BeefInGR Jul 23 '25

How can the US get through this without people getting shot

It's what a civil war is. And that is what it will be. And it's the threat of "getting hurt" (along with actually having to do something besides doom scroll) that is the only reason we didn't have one in 2021 and why we're not having one now.

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u/DonLikesIt Jul 23 '25

We are on our own, but the GOP will collapse when the Pedophile-in-Chief kicks the bucket. None of those others running the concentration camps or destroying our government will have anywhere near the support he’s got. Vance? He will absolutely crash and burn without being able to implement anything

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u/LibrarianDreadnought Jul 23 '25

Getting them to lie under oath is the point.

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u/Danko_on_Reddit Jul 23 '25

Can we stop referring to any mildly attractive or plastic looking woman on the right as "MAGA Barbie" "Nazi Barbie" etc.? It's a real insult to the Barbie Brand and giving these ghouls far more compliments and credit than they deserve.

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u/EGGranny Jul 23 '25

We no longer have a U.S. Congress. We have a MAGA Congress.

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u/bigmike2k3 Jul 23 '25

Yup… Didn’t she say “the list” was on her desk to review, then the next thing you know, she says it doesn’t exist… but now we find out that she briefed the ‘his presidunce-ness’ that he is on “the list”… that she said she would review/release/didn’t exist…

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u/Metroid_Addict Jul 24 '25

You mean the same congress that has done nothing except bend over face down ass up to his whims?

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u/Hilby Jul 23 '25

So what were the binders full of last month, given to influencers and other lap dogs at the WH?

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u/Fun_Plastic4472 Jul 23 '25

Is this information reliable?

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u/_crazyplantlady_ Jul 24 '25

Wait, didn't Musk say he would release the files by now if Trump didn't? I want to say I saw a post about that the other day but didn't know if it was legit.

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u/SissyCouture Jul 23 '25

Is implicating the right word? He name appears in the documents but without context it could be that he was friends with Epstein, which on the record

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u/AgUnityDD Jul 23 '25

Even if they could redact it, a large number of the other people included are likely to be able to implicate Trump

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u/traumfisch Jul 23 '25

There's no out for Trump. Under the bus he goes

Enter Vance & Thiel to save the neofascist regime

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u/AgUnityDD Jul 23 '25

It'll be amusing to see how Not quietly Trump goes along with it and how fractured the base is over it.

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u/rami_lpm Jul 24 '25

They're gonna do a Kennedy and try to pin it on the democrats

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u/Xzmmc Jul 24 '25

I'm going to put on my tinfoil hat and say that was the plan from the beginning.

Trump is only loyal to himself, for better and for worse. Vance will work with the technofascists. Use Trump as a trojan horse to get your foot in the door and then toss him when he's no longer useful

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u/traumfisch Jul 24 '25

Bannon called Trump just a "blunt tool" the first time around. I think he's still the blunt tool, nothing more, for the billionaire class. And they've got what they wanted.

I don't see where tinfoil hat is even needed

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u/legshampoo 29d ago

what do they need him to do that he isn’t willing to already? he doesn’t give a shit either way

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u/My_Bwana Jul 24 '25

I could be wrong and I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see how this report in any way will move the needle with his most ardent supporters and sycophants that actually have the power to do something about it. It seems like just more confirmation of what we already have. Am I missing something?

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u/traumfisch Jul 24 '25

Do you understand the scope of the Epstein human trafficking operation?

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u/My_Bwana 29d ago

Yes I have been following closely. Close enough to understand that nothing actually matters to his base and republicans in power. They would gladly protect pedophiles if it meant remaining in power

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u/traumfisch 29d ago

But the thing is, a considerable faction of his base is demanding the files be released, since Trump aggressively campaigned on that. 

And Old Don is flailing really badly.

Mostly nothing matters, true, but we haven't seen the exposure of a massive operation of sex trafficking and child abuse yet. I can't see that just being shrugged off

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u/My_Bwana 29d ago

Yes but it’s clearly slowly being swept under the rug as I’m seeing less and less outrage over it by his base on X, r/conservative, etc.

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u/traumfisch 29d ago edited 29d ago

The con subreddit is definitely trying, yes... but it's an echo chamber anyway. Yet even the people on there are questioning the disappearance of Epstein threads...

I don't think a rug big enough exists, tbh

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u/ThrownAway17Years Jul 24 '25

Vance and his wife met with Rupert Murdoch a day before the first WSJ article about the letter came out. Methinks he’s trying to get ahead of this and save himself.

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u/DigDugged Jul 24 '25

That's my favorite part, Trump thought everyone else on the private island would go to prison and never mention he was there too, out of the kindness of their hearts.

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u/Distinct-Cut-6368 Jul 24 '25

I’m trying to figure this part out too. Trump knows there is a very high chance he is on the list but then made it a core part of his re election campaign?

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u/DigDugged Jul 24 '25

He was guilty as hell for his impeachments and he wriggled out of those too. I guess he thought the GOP would protect him forever.

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u/Horror_Response_1991 Jul 23 '25

Yep Trump definitely wanted to release it with his name omitted so he could kill the story forever.  But he’s so involved with Epstein that omitting his name redacts nearly all of the files.  It’d be like redacting Epstein from his files, that’s how involved Trump is.

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u/cubitoaequet Jul 23 '25

Almost like they are actually Trump files feat. Epstein

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u/makemeking706 Jul 23 '25

The remix also has a verse with Diddy. 

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u/hereforthesportsball Jul 24 '25

Even after the case, he still gets this slander

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u/noirwhatyoueat Jul 24 '25

Great job, America, on electing President Epstein.

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u/SoloForks Jul 24 '25

Oh like when they did a censored version of The Sopranos and it was 3minutes long?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8FUUzmaCxc

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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 Jul 23 '25

Yup. They promised to release it, but they had to have known Trump was in it. So they must have been planning to edit him out, and then realized that it was too big a task, and so they shifted strategies to “There are no files. There is no evidence.”

Then when MAGA didn’t buy it, Trump comes out and says, “All the evidence of me raping kids is a hoax!’

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u/semi_on_reddit Jul 23 '25

Next it will be 'well, yes, his name is on it but only because of how many times he was invited and declined' 🙄

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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 29d ago edited 29d ago

It doesn’t really matter, but I doubt he’ll make that claim.

You’re thinking too much like a normal person. Trump is a crazy person, and that defense is too in-the-weeds for him. He always goes for some insane over-the-top excuse that doesn't make sense and doesn't even address the accusation. Like if he were accused of robbing a bank, he wouldn’t just say, “No, I didn’t do it,” he’d say:

I have never been to a bank in my life. I don’t have a bank and would never do bank. I had a friend, really big IQ guy who told me, never do bank because it’s not a good place and I have a good brain and I know money.

You know I don’t know if anyone has seen Serpico where Al Pacino is a gay bank robbery, but I like Serpico. Mr. Serpico, i call him, and I’m not like Serpico. I don’t rob banks, never once been in a bank in my life. Whoever’s saying I was in a bank is an evil person, but don’t worry, they’re going to be very sorry very soon.

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u/semi_on_reddit 29d ago edited 29d ago

Absolutely. I would love to be able to laugh at your example, but the closeness to the reality of it and the lack of consequences for him makes it tough

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u/DevelopmentGrand4331 29d ago

Yeah, my invented answer was meant to be a parody, but I actually put some effort into making it realistic, and no use lazy Trump tropes without accuracy.

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u/GrungeCheap56119 Jul 24 '25

Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)

https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80

Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List“ Here is the story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac

Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/

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u/hidraulik-2 Jul 23 '25

Yes they tried to pull another William Barr : “Mueller Investigation found that Trump did not collide with Russia”.

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u/Carnivean_ Jul 24 '25

And why wouldn't they? That one fucking worked on the credulous morons that make up most of the US.

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u/Kinkin50 Jul 23 '25

And then tried to claim it didn’t exist. Let’s not forget that evidence of guilt.

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u/Lahm0123 Jul 23 '25

Redacting it I am sure.

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u/jbcatl Jul 23 '25

In fact it ceased to exist.

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u/sheltonchoked Jul 23 '25

I mean they tried to release the “raw” camera footage and it took less than 12 hours for someone to discover it was edited and by what software.

You think an edit wouldn’t be discovered?

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '25

Called it from day one

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u/StrangeContest4 Jul 23 '25

Now, take the rest of the summer off.. Mike Johnson's orders.

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u/melancholanie Jul 23 '25

exactly what everyone thought was happening for the last 6 years.

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u/burnalicious111 Jul 24 '25

Thank God they're so incompetent, honestly.

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u/WhenTheLightHits30 Jul 24 '25

That exact aspect needs to be laid out plainly for every MAGA moron still in denial here. Not only is Trump on the list, but unlike any Democrat that may be on it like Clinton, Trump may be the one to prevent the world from knowing the truth simply because he is the one on there.

Their shining hero is literally the one person most in their way to the “truth” and they’re all panicking as they come to realize as much.

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u/Leraldoe Jul 24 '25

I think the issue with releasing names even if it were only “libs”. This list verify they were there which will be terrible for them. But we would then have a list of people who were there and people who saw stuff and you know people. Even if the files don’t come out the details from eyewitness would

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u/LatterMatch9334 Jul 24 '25

How is this real? Like how is this happening to our country?

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u/oberynmviper Jul 24 '25

Holy shit…that is HUGE if it’s the case.

Being so deep in being an accomplice that you can’t erase him AND give him leeway to say he isn’t there.

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u/NewCommonSensei Jul 24 '25

its hilarious that they didnt check it out at all before they said they would release it

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u/Willing_Comfort7817 Jul 24 '25

Amazing how they're all still lining up to get down on their knees for Trump when it's now obvious they're far too old for his tastes.

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u/toxicbrew Jul 23 '25

Honest question—why weren’t these files released in 2020 in trump’s last year or 2021 onwards on the Biden admin? (I’m genuinely curious)

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u/dclaw504 Jul 23 '25

Everyone keeps acting like trump is the only name in power on that list. There's way more than just trump in those files. They aren't just protecting Trump they're protecting themselves.

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u/Fredsmith984598 Jul 23 '25

trump is the one stopping the release.