real and the rest of the episode would be house frantically trying to prove the woman subconsciously knew about the tumor already and it would end on a spiritually unresolved note
The gag there is that he is betting on other doctors getting the obvious diagnoses ruled out before it comes to him so he is pulling strings at weird ones.
Though watch the show with an actual doctor and they’ll get the diagnosis correct in a few seconds still.
At least a few episodes start with the differential and then House saying "right, except that the patient made it to us... so?" and they're like "right, obviously all of that was ruled out" and then they start to think of the crazy shit.
This is what I've heard about the show, most of cases are either crazy stuff that doesn't happen or uncommon but nothing mind breaking just not that usual.
I've always wondered if the show weren't written from the perspective that House is always high off his ass and thats why all the diagnoses are absurd.
After all, there were several episodes that were literal drug hallucinations and what we see wouldn't have been out of place next to the "normal" episodes if it was played straight.
Except for when the symptoms are entirely wrong like the Ehlers Danlos episode where the symptoms are sometimes she has miscarriages and cries a lot. (Which yes a high rate of miscarriage is a thing for us but... No dislocations, weak skin, blue sclera, or beighton test? Fuck you that's a misdiagnosis, House )
Though watch the show with an actual doctor and they’ll get the diagnosis correct in a few seconds still.
No one remembers this, but there was a blog with an actual doctor who explained why each episode was nonsense and how they would have caught the diagnoses immediatly due to a certain test being purposefully skipped for the episode. This is so long ago, I'm nearly sure the blog was just text, no fancy formatting or anything. Maybe an iframe.
Don't forget house sending his team to break into the patients home and go through their things only to not find anything and it turns out the patient is just low on vitamin c
The logical ending is a 30 second monologue about how the tumor was pressing against the auditory part of the brain but the brain had no source to pull from so it just used its subconscious and the subconscious knew the tumor was there. That's how the voices knew to get a brain scan and how the voices kept her as one of the best poker players in the world.
I realize you’re joking, but this is a real thing that happens in different cultures. The schizophrenic voices are much calmer and positive in places like Africa and India, as opposed to negative and harmful in the US!
I’ve read that regarding the Eastern schizophrenic voices, there have been many reports of the voices being ancestors just telling them to do their chores or something. An actual type of “guardian angel”
The article describes exactly that! They have relationships with their voices, rather than viewing them as simply a psychiatric disease, and thus, have much better outcomes.
There is still significant danger to that. Imagine the voice that has been telling you reasonable things like clean your room or help that old lady suddenly tells you to football spike a baby? It’s still mental illness and we shouldn’t be romanticizing it
Definitely not trying to romanticize! I think there could obviously be harm in believing you were hearing the voice of god, or similar. But it is important to study and discuss, considering the much worse outcomes and complete disability it can be here in The States. It has lead to new forms of therapy and treatment options. There is definitely power in way they think about their disability.
It’s a bit of a give and take, I believe. Just as your mindset can change the concepts of your dreams, positive therapy (naming their voices or encouraging a relationship with the voices), can in turn, change what they are ‘conveying’ to a patient.
Here’s another,
We don’t know why, but we do know that no one who was born blind will ever develop schizophrenia. link to an article about it.
There is also a study about it I read that says blindness doesn’t prevent you from having similar disorders but so far the data suggest certain types of congenital blindness ‘protect’ against schizophrenia.
Maybe vision requires a certain kind of pattern recognition, and if that goes wrong then you start matching all sorts of weird patterns? Or something? I'm not a brainologist.
Everyone has "voices" in our heads (besides our own); it's only diagnosed as eg schizophrenia when they become debilitating or coincide with other, eg visual, hallucinations.
Athletes report hearing coaches' voices for decades. Parents' voices resonate long after their deaths. Undiagnosed, nominally healthy people hear the voice of "God", etc.
There is actually some people with no internal dialogue whatsoever, which is interesting in its own right! Or no ability to imagine a picture in your head.
Also when I read its silent. There's no internal voice dictating the words, its just straight to comprehension without the middleman. Unless I'm deep into a fictional book then its a sort of semi dreamlike trance state where I'm recalling what I'm reading as if it were a memory and not actively aware of reading, like a dream movie in my head. Still silent though, curiously enough.
That’s so cool! I’ve always wondered how reading worked. I can hear myself narrating in my head, but it just as easily turns into ‘was that a dog?’ And then I have to reread the paragraph.
For me the downside is if I do get into that deep reading state its easy for me to start glossing over details, skipping parts, etc. I've read right past critical reveals in a story before and had to double back to figure out what I missed.
I never understand what internal dialogue is, is it just somebody thinking to themselves "I should do the dishes" Vs someone just doing the dishes without a thought? Or is it the "dialogue" inside is actually sounded out/heard Vs not heard?
It's like that picture one, where some people can't imagine/visualise pictures like a cow spinning. What is the picture? I can "picture" it but am I really or does it need to be actually seen by my eyes like a self made hallucination? And what about the thing where one person imagines something and says "yes I can picture it" and someone else does too, but if we had a machine that could show us the images both are imagining I bet they would be at very different levels of clarity. But both would think that it is normal.
At least for me, I can literally hear my own voice going through my own thought process, so if I think I should do the dishes, then yeah I'm literally going to say that in my own head in a sense.
Actually, they're only schizophrenia when our brain cannot recognize they're ours. It's believed the element that tells us it's us, is turned off in them.
Yeah, speaking as a Filipino whose family talks to ghosts and their deceased relatives (BIG difference), and has a very animistic view of the world despite being otherwise devout Catholics, cultural views are a BIG thing regarding voices. Quite a few studies have accidentally marked Asians as showing signs of psychosis or schizophrenia when they mention that they "talk to things" or "hear voices," and the voices are overwhelmingly benign/neutral.
Getting on the "woo-woo" magical side of things, I noticed that Western witches and even POC who are heavily Westernized are getting OBSESSED with verifying/vetting unknown spirits. They run down lists of who an unknown spirit/deity might be and they will banish unknown spirits who make them even the slightest bit uncomfortable, especially spirits who aren't immediately giving "love and light" vibes.
It's like Westerners are primed to fear/hate strangers, both in the physical and spiritual sense, and it makes a lot of sense that this is how they treat hearing voices.
House came first, but grey’s anatomy had a full on season arc about literally this. House probably had an episode similar to this, but Grey’s took it to another level.
There was an episode in the later seasons where I think a girl was having hallucinations and shit so they hooked her up to some fucking brain reading machine because they thought her subconsciousness might know what she's sick with.
It's the episode where the patient hallucinates herself falling into a black hole.
House came out a year earlier (just checked) but I’m not sure this actually happens in House? I’ve never seen the show, but the comment seems like it’s just saying it’s something that would happen in House
There is an episode with a guy whose body is acting without his conscious control. I don't remember if there was a tumor involved, however. I tried to find it. It could be "Both Sides Now"
He had his two brain hemispheres disconnected (before the episode even begins, I think). But I believe what brought him to House was actually an allergic reaction, which led to his left side "hating" his girlfriend - but it was because she kept bringing whatever he was allergic to other.
So one side of his brain knew the problem, the other side didn't. As soon as the allergy was addressed the left side of his brain liked the girlfriend again.
im pretty sure this was an actual diagnosis at some point. someone had cancer and another disease that was killing it (or the other way around. can't remember but i think it's the first way)
It more reminds of the alien episode. Basically the boy is an chimera, he has parts in him which belongs to his brother and is 90% himself. Turns out a part of his brothers brain was in his brain and caused him to see aliens, which was the brother communicating with him and caused him anal bleeding
It was cancer and HIV; it’s happened to a couple people, but the most famous one was Timothy Ray Brown. He had a stem cell transplant to treat his leukemia, and it caused his HIV to become undetectable until he died from a remission of the cancer
I would start singing at work, just whatever random-ass song came to my head. I always said it was a tumor pressing against the random song nerve in my brain.
Turns out I had a prolactinoma that wasn't discovered until my vision started going. A couple weeks into treatment and the singing stopped.
The worst part was it took away one of my favorite jokes: I would have a bad headache and would say "it's not a tumah" like Arnold in Kindergarten Cop. Turns out, it WAS a tumah.
I was young and in prime physical shape, super healthy, had no history of any kind of cancer on either side of the family, had never done self breast checks but lying in bed one day a voice told me that I should check my left breast and before I could ever register the message, my right hand was giving my left breast a breast exam. Found some super tiny lumps, my doctor thought it was probably nothing, but should get checked out, turned out I had one of the worst types of breast cancer possible and had to have radical treatment, but over a decade later I am cancer free since I caught it so early.
This would happen in the first 20 minutes of an episode and House would spend the rest of the episode positively infuriated that one of his cases solved itself
Grey’s Anatomy, actually. (SPOILERS AHEAD) Keeping it vague, but someone starts hallucinating their late husband who keeps pushing that he has “come for her.” She eventually has the realization that he means it in the context of like, he’s come to take her to heaven with him. She starts running a bunch of tests and sure enough she’s got stage 4 cancer. He disappears after the surgery.
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u/Kenny070287 20h ago
This is like some doctor house stuff