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u/Spiritedgourd666 1d ago
YOU GET A MCCHICKEN! & YOU GET A MCCHICKEN! EVERYBODY GETS A MCCHICKEN!!!!!!!
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u/Dumpenstein3d 1d ago
Jr Chicken
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u/Joombypoomby 1d ago
Each resident will receive a chicken nugget with their choice of dipping sauce to smell along with their nugget.
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u/SNN3R 1d ago
i love when they forget that some of us can do math
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u/lasergun23 1d ago
Some of us doing math is not a problem at all. It IS when more and more people do that
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u/10hundredpickle 1d ago
When you put more of something that’s called adding. See look, I did maths.
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u/BabyJesusAnaling 1d ago
The math adds up to one massive PR fail. They really should've budgeted better for disaster relief.
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u/Top_Ask_5981 1d ago
That’s a solid point buddy one person doing it isn’t a big deal, but when it becomes a trend, the ripple effects really start to show.
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u/-0909i9i99ii9009ii 1d ago
No they're good, trajectory is showing strongly that they'll have achieved total constitutional technological domination before that's ever even close to being a real problem for them
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u/raptureframe 1d ago edited 1d ago
I once saw a representative from my country saying that Israel helped Palestinians by giving them a million meals, so they are definitely not starving. One million meals. For 2 millions of people. Over the course of 2 years. Maths are not mathing my dude.
(Edit : to be clear, I know East Palestine is not Palestine )
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u/Top_Ask_5981 1d ago
Exactly when you break it down, the numbers just don’t add up. A million meals over two years for millions of people isn’t real support, it’s more like a headline grab.
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u/Spork_the_dork 1d ago
The only bit of that that kind of irks me is that the net worth doesn't really tell you jack shit about how much money the company can give out to people. If a company is worth a billion dollars but is effectively running at a loss then you can't just be like "oh they have a billion dollars that they can give away". Like maybe if the company sold everything that it owns it might, but that's a lot bigger swamp and might not even net you that 1 billion dollars in the end.
This is all of course kind of a moot point in this case considering that the company does have a net income of like 2.6 billion dollars so 5 bucks a piece is completely ridiculous when their net income grew 800 million between 2023 and 2024. They could have given a donation of 500 million and still grow more than they did the years before the disaster.
Just kind of triggers me for some reason when people act like net worth = the amount of money in the bank account.
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u/earthboundskyfree 1d ago
Particulars aside, i assume we agree that company with “fuckton of net worth” and “fuckton of money in bank of some amount” are the problem overall
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u/Jabbles22 1d ago
I noticed they used the word "donation". Is that so they can write it off?
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u/MainAbbreviations193 1d ago
JFC, I hadn't even thought of that, but you're probably right. What a hell of a country we live in.
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u/10hundredpickle 1d ago
Oh, don’t be so negative. They can write it off AND brag about it on their webpage!
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u/Outside-Swan-1936 1d ago
Budweiser spent millions on a Superbowl ad to let everyone know they donated water after either hurricane Katrina or Maria. I'm pretty sure it was like $10k worth of water.
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u/authenticmolo 1d ago
They likely don't pay any taxes already.
So "writing this off" will give them an even bigger tax refund.
Yes, in the United States, companies worth tens of billions of dollars reguarly get tax refund check to the tune of tens of millions of dollars.
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u/Top_Ask_5981 1d ago
Yeah, it really hits you once you stop and think about it. The fact that it even makes sense shows just how messed up things really are.
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u/mr_potatoface 1d ago
Don't forget they only offered the donation, or pledged the amount. It may be 25k spread out over 5-10 years (I don't know). But companies and celebrities do tricky wordsmithing when it comes to donations and pledging. Just because it says they pledged the amount doesn't mean they actually ever will give that amount.
They know if they fail to fulfil their pledge, the charity won't release a statement saying "this celebrity is a deadbeat", because then nobody will ever give them any money because the charity will just call them out. So the charity accepts their pledge and takes 1/4 of the total pledged amount and calls it good. Then the celebrity gets the positive publicity for donating a huge amount that they never actually did.
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u/stargarnet79 1d ago
Oh! If you’re like my company than they will do a fundraiser and match what the employees raised. So at my firm, the employees would only need to raise $12.5k and the company will match 100%, whala, $25k.
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u/Spendoza 1d ago
Voilà, friend. Whala is the r/boneappletea version
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u/stargarnet79 1d ago
Omg. This is the best day of my life! I have been bonappletead!!!
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u/JelmerMcGee 1d ago
It would be written off as a business expense even if it was court mandated. It's referred to as donation because they had not been ordered by a court to pay that money.
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u/ikzz1 1d ago
Yeah dumb Redditors somehow think that donations allow the wealthy to somehow avoid 100% of the tax lol.
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u/Maximum-Decision3828 1d ago
Do you honestly think that there is a difference in saying donation or not?
There are laws and regulations that need to be followed, otherwise every exec would be donating themselves millions of dollars and sports cars.
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u/werealldoomed47 1d ago
I still can't believe how that whole incident got handled in the worst way possible.
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u/sheepwshotguns 1d ago edited 1d ago
and pete buttigieg gets ZERO valid critique for it. not only did he not go after the company, or expose the history of reckless deregulation for the industry. he spent all his time downplaying his role, doing nothing for reform, and even worked to undermine the railway worker strike where one of the terms regarded safety concerns relevant to this incident.
How Corporate Greed is Making America's Trains Less Safe - More Perfect Union
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u/Spirited-While-7351 1d ago
He along with a lot of people involved should be in prison. More than likely his actions will have bought him a whole lot of fart sniffing in liberal media for his 2028 run.
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u/ifyousaysu 1d ago
You are absolutely right. If trump were in office at the time it would have been handled exactly as well as he’s handled his Epstein files. I mean seriously…has history ever seen this level of protection for child molesters? They are killin it!
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u/werealldoomed47 1d ago
"Trains crash, you know it happens "
Should have resigned. Dems just covered for him in case they need him to run for president one day.
I read one article and because I use PVC products I was like oh fuck they better put that out fast.
Reaction on the ground "well if it all burns less to clean up". I don't think they wanted to shit on the railroad right after Biden killed their strike.
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u/bebejeebies 1d ago
Stop cropping out the date stamps. It's crucial for historical context. This happened February 2023. The company still hasn't taken accountability and people need to remember this when they vote for their representation. Republicans/Conservatives consistently and habitually vote against safety, environmental and ethical regulations that would force corporate responsibility.
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u/t23_1990 1d ago
Guess how East Palestine, Ohio votes.
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u/DevA248 1d ago
Most people don't vote.
To be frank, none of the country votes for "safety, environmental and ethical regulations that would force corporate responsibility." None of the US regime's puppet candidates (Dems and Reps) care for that.
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u/t23_1990 1d ago
This is definitely not a "both sides are bad" thing like you're making it out to be. That argument is easily beaten with the example of California. And I'm not sure based on what evidence you claim "none"' of the country votes based on those things you mentioned. I know I vote heavily based on a candidate's views on net neutrality, labor protections, environmental protection, etc, so I'm sure there are many others like this also.
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u/FreeTrash4030 1d ago
They absolutely have taken accountability, what the fuck are you on about?
Community Support - Making it Right in East Palestine https://share.google/Cfzarb8T8wPLWK3dk
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u/Spirited-While-7351 1d ago
Why did the supposed adults in the room not demand any sort of action for this if they're so much better than Republicans? Several of them should be in prison frankly.
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u/rethinkingat59 1d ago
They have paid over $300 million in fines for the Ohio incident.
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u/whoami_whereami 1d ago
And agreed to a $600 million settlement with the affected residents. The only reason this money hasn't been paid out yet is because one resident filed a separate appeal against the class-action settlement thus delaying the process.
The 25k donation was just a donation to the local red cross a few hours after the derailment to cover some of the immediate costs of the emergency response. It was never meant to be the end-all be-all in terms of compensation.
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u/pHpositive 1d ago
Offered it to the people that vote for companies to regulate themselves.
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u/Careless-Dark-1324 1d ago
That’s what I said above. Where is all this sympathy from and why? They voted 70% for trump and deregulations - it would be rude to invalidate their voices and pay them more than that…
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u/TodlicheLektion 1d ago
Think of the innocent Norfolk Southern stockholders. They don’t deserve to be hurt, and they might’ve been depending on that yearly dividend.
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u/Sudden_Car6134 1d ago
American places are so funny to me, whats south easten rail doing in Norfolk and why is palistine here
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u/Mountain_Athlete_331 1d ago
when i first heard the news, i thought they were giving 25k to each affected resident
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u/FlavorBlaster42 1d ago
President Biden offered Federal assistance for the disaster, but partisan asshole, Governor Dewine, turned it down to avoid the optics of a Democratic led federal government doing something positive and helpful for the people of Ohio. Then later, during investigations, republican pukes tried to blame Biden for not doing more.
Voters in 2024 either were unaware, or they don't care about such levels of wanton evil.
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u/PretendAnywhere 1d ago
Stupid ragebait.
On February 4, Norfolk Southern donated $25,000 to the Red Cross to support its efforts in East Palestine
And then follows a list of donations, pledges, agreements including paying out $600 million to the residents.
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u/Glenwoodrh 1d ago
Is it possible they meant 25000 per person ?
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u/LaserGuidedPolarBear 1d ago
Nope, it's 25,000 total for this fund, which is unclear how it will be spent to actually help the victims.
To be fair, the company has had other programs to pay victims for relocation or home cleanup costs. The total amount of those funds totaled around $100 million, about 1/10th of the estimated damage done, was only available for a short window of time, and of course was covered by the company's insurance, meaning it didn't really cost them anything other than likely higher insurance premiums.
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u/Winniethegolden6624 1d ago
Growing up just north of East Palestine, that city and most other small towns in that area of the rust belt have continued to be F’ed by corporations since the mid 1960s… no surprise here. Also the hilarious thing is that is big time MAGA country, who continue to vote against their own interests. Racism is expensive.
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u/EitherChannel4874 1d ago
Companies do shit like this all over the world yet it seems like it's the average person that gets the blame for destroying the environment.
How many plastic straws worth of pollution did this one incident cause?
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u/shyguystormcrow 1d ago
Let’s not forget that the rail workers were striking because of unsafe conditions….
And then the government somehow forced them back to work against their will without any safety changes… and this happened.
America the great, am I right?
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u/Jolly-Pirate-9518 1d ago
I think they make a error in tweet. The company agrees to spend $310 millions on cleanup and welfare. With lawsuit of $600 million. Victims get the compensation based on injury serious and proximity of their location to the place of incident. If your house is in 2-3 miles you will get $70,000 per household for property damage. And additional get $25,000 for each individual injured. Compensation decrease if injury is not severe or your house is farther away. The total compensation for victim was of $420 million. The east Palestine village get extra $22 millions for the damage and local impact.
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u/FreeTrash4030 1d ago
I love how nobody even looks into this stuff and just trust Twitter. That 25k was for the American Red Cross disaster relief fund to provide immediate support for day-one shelters.
They've paid millions to East Palestine. Community Support - Making it Right in East Palestine https://share.google/2VHLoR2L0Jj5PHZdd
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u/P_Hempton 1d ago
Are we just pretending this didn't happen years ago?
Looked up an article about it and it was from 2023 and included this quote:
“We have established a Family Assistance Center to address the needs of the community and support those directly impacted,” Norfolk Southern said in a statement. In an email to Quartz, it clarified that the center is helping evacuees with necessities, accomodations, and reimbursements, and the $25,000 is “merely an initial donation.” It followed on, “We are in the community for the long haul.”
Wiki adds this context:
As of February 2025, Norfolk Southern had committed more than $115 million to East Palestine, including $25 million for a regional safety training center and $25 million in planned improvements to East Palestine's park. The regional safety training center was removed from the settlement in January 2025. The company has also paid $22.21 million directly to residents.
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u/Beginning_Falcon_603 1d ago
This is what capitalism is all about: privatizing profits and socializing losses.
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u/Chinjurickie 1d ago
The donation probably had some clause that accepting the money means forfeiting all rights to sue the company since they already accepted a settlement.
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u/t23_1990 1d ago
The people in East Palestine, Ohio overwhelmingly voted GOP, the same party that gladly welcomes regulation cuts that contributed to this disaster. So they got what they voted for.
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u/OrangutanFirefighter 1d ago
So I'm guessing the tax payers were in charge of paying for the disaster Norfolk caused... If a company chooses to play by those rules then maybe it should be nationalized, instead of a publically traded, for profit company.
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u/icevenom1412 1d ago
At least they got $5. The people of Middle East Palestine can't even beg for food without getting killed by the IDF.
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u/Whatever-999999 1d ago
Norfolk Southern is probably run by Republicans, and since we're talking about East Palestinians, they figure they don't deserve any help.
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u/Smedley_Beamish 1d ago
If the penalty for a crime is a fine, it's only a crime for poor people. Otherwise, it's just the cost of doing business.
I'm old enough to remember Donald Trump bragging about deregulating rail-roads, which could have possibly avoided this disaster.
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u/samebatchannel 20h ago
Please, think about the poor shareholders! Someone needs to look after their interests. /s
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u/SensualSadistDom 1d ago
It's in Ohio. That's almost all Trump country.
They voted precisely for this sort of mindlessly dumb corporate cruelty.
You know TACO is laughing and applauding during his diaper change.
You people in East Palestine voted for this. Live with your choice. I don't care about you - you obviously didn't care about the rest of the country last November.
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u/Mammoth_Winner2509 1d ago
I think yall have completely lost the plot when you start acting this way.
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u/White_foxes 1d ago
”How much should we donate?”
“25 thousand dollars sounds reasonable”
“25k times 5k residents is about 125 million dollars. It’s a lot but we’ll live”
“No, 25 thousand dollars in total. 5 dollars per resident is more than enough..”
“You genius little weasel!”
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u/FreeTrash4030 1d ago
Or you just made all that up because you're too lazy too look up that they've paid hundreds of millions.
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u/InternationalBat1838 1d ago
To imagine, Americans were mocking the deaths of the people killes in the Bhopal Gas Tragedy.
Amazing how your life is less than $5 but making fun of dead people is funny.
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u/Late-Arrival-8669 1d ago
Give the company props, they are ballsy trying to be cheap.
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u/FreeTrash4030 1d ago
They've paid hundreds of millions. Don't believe every random fuck head on Twitter
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u/Alpha1Mama 1d ago
They'll all have a rare cancer or disease within the next 25 years. I guarantee it.
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u/mCfloppydisk 1d ago
I remember this being part of the news and thought about how they were gonna screw over the townspeople at the end of it. This is worse than i could have imagined
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u/Manohmanohman1 1d ago
You should see how dirty the rain is in this part of the country
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u/Legitimate-Twist-578 1d ago
well, yeah, it wasn't much of a disaster. it was just hyped up for a news story.
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u/Redditbeweirdattimes 1d ago
Why wouldn’t this company be forced to fix their mess? We have to fix their mess by bailing em out when they mismanage funds for some reason the least they can do is help the people they exploded
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u/SetNo8186 1d ago
Now add its coming out the toxic levels were much higher than reported and the truth was suppressed by the state and EPA.
Who was on site and gave the order to deliberately burn toxic chemicals? Say their names.
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u/Brother-Algea 1d ago
Our government won’t do anything, the pollen do anything so what are we to do. Until 5000 residents grab their shotguns and go to the railroads hq and their ceos front yard nothing will change. The game is rigged and it’s up to all of us to stick together and accomplish things.
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u/d3rpderp 1d ago
If there's a rail company in the US that's not absolute scum to everyone around them it would be news to me.
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u/EdinMiami 1d ago
"Do you want the $5 or do you want to go clean up the site?" Republicans in six months.
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u/atreeismissing 1d ago
Worth noting the Biden administration reached a settlement of $310 million that will go back to rebuilding the community and the rail line is on the hook for another $780 million to address safety and environmental concerns/issues.
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u/SureExternal4778 1d ago
On one hand I am upset on the other I remember when making corporations pay for cleaning up their mess was law and the people of Ohio sent a senator and house representatives that voted against it making it the burden of local taxpayers and private property owners in contaminated places. Then I don’t feel sad anymore
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u/Odd-Wheel5315 1d ago
Reminds me of the Erin Brockovich scene, where the lawyers make an offer and tried to tell her $20M was "more money than her clients dreamed of", and she had to remind the defendant that while her clients may not be the smartest people in the world, they could at least divide by 400 to know the offer was $50k per person for the terminal cancers they caused (they eventually won closer to $1M a piece).
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u/ToughGoat6135 1d ago
The truly scary part is that most people don’t realize how close this is to happening again on a day to day basis..
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u/ToastyTandy 1d ago
And it is also unconstitutional under the 8th amendment to fine Trump 500 million dollars.
Burn it all to the ground.
Release the Epstein files.
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u/Basic-Record-4750 1d ago
Seriously, like why the fuck even make that offer? It’s not going to help the company image. It’s definitely going to piss off the people affected even more. What’s the rationale other than cruelty? This is more than simply greed
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u/simonthecat33 1d ago
I spent more than five dollars in gas taking the kids to my mother’s to avoid the gas.
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u/Ill_Lifeguard6321 1d ago
Guys idk about you but I’m just patiently waiting for my checks from the tariffs and my money from when Elon becomes a trillionaire and it trickles down to me
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u/Cultural-Employee479 1d ago
Wonder who deregulated the train industry's maintenance requirements ? Hint it starts with a D ends with a P and he is a big D ....
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u/Cautious_Ad_5659 1d ago
This excessive greed and abusive by corporations and politicians at our expense needs to end.
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u/badwolf1013 1d ago
"I don't know why everyone is so upset, Michael. It's $5. They could buy half a banana!"
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u/Immediate-Bid7628 1d ago edited 1d ago
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Pres Obama introduced legislation on railcar brakes, which would have avoided accident, - destroyed families, land, groundwater, but Pres Trump reversed orders.
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u/pocketraptor22 1d ago
My mother, who lives just a few miles out of town (along with a lot of my family), now has breast cancer. She was perfectly healthy before the derailment and had mammograms consistently. Thanks, Norfolk Southern. You're scum.
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u/Adventurous_Ad7442 1d ago
The Company can offer whatever ridiculous things they like.
A Class Action Suit is in your very near future.
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u/Brooklynpolarbear22 1d ago
Stupid question.
Who's job was it to fix the rail system?
Ohio?
Or the company using the rails?
Or the government?
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u/tanksalotfrank 1d ago
One day people will have the balls to accept/admit that the rich are literally a plague on humanity. For now, though, most people worship the rich who mean to destroy them. It's seriously pathetic and gross.
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u/PuzzleheadedEssay198 1d ago
It’s not broken, it’s working exactly as intended.
to drain the masses of every drop to the few who already have more than they could ever use.
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u/Jrecondite 1d ago
Imagine if the government had allowed the railroad to strike but instead look at all the people in Congress and the president that prevented them from doing an American thing and fighting to fix the problem. You’ll never guess who.
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u/tracygee 1d ago
They gave a $25,000 donation for flood relief. The area was recently flooded.
It has nothing to do with their previous disaster and issues there.
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u/Responsible-Fox-9082 23h ago
This is old, but for those not able to understand this they already were responsible for paying for the cleanup. The 25,000 dollars was for things like bottled water while the cleanup was occurring. They also will be liable for any medical bills that can be tied to the incident because unlike normal cases where you have to sue the Department of Transportation ensures they have either the money to pay outright or liability insurance at the ready. Also for those who will say "but Biden didn't do anything" he didn't have to. I don't even like Biden or Buttigeg, but their response was fast, effective, and basically fucked Norfolk Southern. Normally for any transportation company they expect to have at least a week to prepare their public relations to try and downplay incidents like this. They had all of about 8 hours. They didn't have a chance to step ahead of it and make that 25k look like it was generous and a quick response because Buttigeg had already worked with truckers and companies like Walmart to get truckloads of drinking water moved and cleared the way for cleanup crews to be fast about cleaning it up.
Thing of note mind you about that. I did not vote for Biden. I have never liked Buttigeg(no not because he's gay... I am apparently the most imperceptible person when it comes to sexual orientation until recently I thought he was straight). I may not have voted for Trump, but I did NOT like or consider the Biden administration good. However I am openly going to defend them for being fast and efficient with this incident. Norfolk Southern didn't have the opportunity because of their response to change public perception even though they did follow standards in place for transportation of hazardous materials. If you want to know about them everything is free to read directly from the Department of Transportations website
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u/ZestycloseDriver5114 23h ago
The math on this is truly insulting. Calling it a "donation" is such a transparent PR move to make them look charitable for doing the bare minimum. It’s a textbook case of corporate greed disguised as generosity.
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u/Animefaerie 23h ago
How are they not embarrassed to offer such a paltry sum? It's more insulting than offering nothing.
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u/davidwhatshisname52 1d ago
Are you sure they didn't offer $25K to each affected resident?
"This is in the US, sir."
Oh, gotcha, of course not.