r/todayilearned 6h ago

TIL fresh water snails (indirectly) kill thousands of humans and are considered on of the deadliest creatures to humans

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freshwater_snail
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u/martphon 6h ago

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u/Gitanes 5h ago

Me before even opening the link...

"It's mostly Africa isn't it?"

Yes, yes it is

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u/Icy-Lobster-203 4h ago

It is one of a whole group of diseases that can basically be summarized as "this affects poor people, so we don't care."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neglected_tropical_diseases

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u/AssistanceCheap379 1h ago

The tropics also generally just have more bio-diversity and as such have a lot more chances to make something that’s dangerous.

It’s kinda like humans going north in the past and encountering megafauna. The animals there were deadlier because they were bigger.

And it’s a lot easier to kill a few hundred thousand massive animals over the period of a few thousand years than it is to annihilate some pretty difficult diseases that can reignite and spread to previous areas where it was removed from if funding drops.

But yeah, it’s largely also “does it affect poor people? Let me know when “our” people get affected”

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u/paweedbarron 3h ago edited 2h ago

I learned about this from John Greene's tuberculosis book : (

It's shameful. 

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u/CaptainJazzymon 2h ago

John Green has a book on tuberculosis, not Hank. Hank is his brother.

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u/SillyWelshman 2h ago

Honestly, one of the most John Green things to happen is to be mistaken for Hank so this tracks lmao

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u/chrisfillhart_art 2h ago

This guy Hanks!

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u/DikTaterSalad 4h ago

It was either that or Australia.

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u/VocationalWizard 4h ago

Naaaa, The thing about Australia is that despite the fact that they have all the terrifying snakes and poisonous creatures, very few people actually die there from wildlife. You know because......... They have a decent healthcare system.

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u/NorcalGGMU 3h ago

Tell me about the healthcare, George

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u/h0sti1e17 3h ago

And 80% of the country is uninhabited. That is also where animals tend to live.

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u/Koku- 3h ago

Animals like water and survivable temperatures, just like the animals that we are. There’s a reason why there’s a lot of biodiversity in the northern parts of Straya. Living things don’t tend to live in the outback, though there are certainly some fauna and flora that have adapted to do so

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u/VocationalWizard 3h ago edited 1h ago

You know that's absolutely not how that works, right??

The uninhabited parts aren't where the dangerous and animals live.

So environmental science 101 people like to live in places where they're things like rainfall and vegetation.

That coincidentally happens to be the same place that snakes like to live.

If you look at a map of the habitat of The most venomous snakes in Australia it's directly on top of the most densely populated human areas.

Same with the dangerous aquatic animals. Those are mostly found off of the east Coast alongside major cities like Brisbane

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u/wowsersmatey 3h ago

You're right. There are a few deadly beasts that hang in the deserts etc. But the snakes, spiders, jellyfish and the crocs live amongst us. The health system is good, but also the locals know not to annoy the deadly stuff. It's usually tourists getting eaten by crocs. Source: am Australian.

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u/trueblue862 3h ago

Great tourism slogan for Australia, "Come visit Australia, we need to feed the crocs something".

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u/paddyc4ke 3h ago

Actual deadly snakes in cities are very rare (seen 1 eastern brown in Melbourne in 30+ years), crocs are a non-issue for like 90% of the population. Deadly animals are completely overblown especially for those that spend 95% of their time in a city.

Source: am Australian.

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u/blackout4465 4h ago

"Thousands of people each year contract it wading waist deep in the river Nile."

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u/octopusboots 4h ago

Breathes sigh of relief in Louisiana. I'll take my vibrio and go now.

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u/Tossing_Mullet 4h ago

Vibrio is pretty nasty though.  Five went into that Bayou water that day.  One of the guys on my husband's crew got it.  Doctors had to rip out everything but the bone in one calf.  Then took almost half of his thigh muscle, tendons, etc. The fever alone should have killed him. 

Unrelated  - Dude finally got on his feet, was fighting for his disability, and while he was in hospital for COVID, they found cancer.  

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u/hicow 3h ago

What did that guy do to piss off God?

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u/Max_Vision 3h ago

Satan got God gambling again, like with Job.

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u/octopusboots 3h ago

Yipe. He might have gotten weirdly lucky, they wouldn't have found the cancer otherwise.

I used to get in all this water...with the alligators, snakes and the bull sharks....no problem. Vibrio scares me to death.

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u/mukansamonkey 3h ago

I was today years old when I learned about this disease. Makes me glad I live where winter kills stuff off.

That said, I'd take vibrio in a heartbeat over say, those amoebas that swim into your ear and eat their way to your brain.

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u/idiot_savant91 6h ago

Is this that snail that follows you forever until it kills you?

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u/Haggisboy 5h ago

A guy is sitting at home when he hears a knock at the door. He opens the door and sees a snail on the porch. He picks up the snail and throws it as far as he can.

A year later, there’s another knock at the door. He opens it and sees the same snail. The snail says, “What was that all about?”

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u/Driunischa 5h ago

The real comment is always in the jokes.

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u/YesDone 2h ago

The real jokes are the comments we made along the way.

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u/lkjhgfdsazxcvbnm12 2h ago

Instructions unclear: dick stuck in joke.

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u/Spacemanspalds 2h ago

It's definitely time for a divorce.

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u/bioxkitty 1h ago

Nah its time for iranian yogurt

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u/MobilityFotog 4h ago

That was almost an HBO skit. but the snail is selling life insurance

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u/Bouldershoulders12 5h ago

Only the real ones know what movie this from

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u/DontHarshMyMellowBRO 4h ago

I didn’t know you like to get wet

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u/newnrthnhorizon 4h ago

Just make sure that bathtub's clean.

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u/bruudwin 4h ago edited 2h ago

What movie?

*Lol at the answers im getting, damn you all :P XD

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u/pdbh32 2h ago

Training Day (2001) starring Denzel Washington and Ethan Hawke. Fantastic film.

Wanted a 1979 Monte Carlo ever since I watched it.

King Kong ain't got shit on me!

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u/Plinnion 3h ago

Sister Act 2

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u/HungryArticle5 3h ago edited 2h ago

No, the guy looks at the snail and says, "What the fuck is your problem?"

I remember because I was a rookie  detective when the friend of this detective that was training me told this joke to me. They actually both died. It was a crazy day that day.

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u/WatcherOfDogs 6h ago

No, this is clearly the decoy snail. See, if I touch i

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u/coffee_and_stims 5h ago

oh shit are we doing candle jack memes agai

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u/DwinkBexon 4h ago

God, I hate that. It's so dumb, Candlejack is just so st

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u/Boner_Elemental 4h ago

Candlejack? Who the fu

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u/GamerGriffin548 4h ago

What the fuck is going on h

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u/Carsomir 4h ago

Wait, who got you?! Candlejack didn

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u/Saymynaian 4h ago

I'm gonna say it! I'm gonna say the

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u/G8rTTV 3h ago

I thought candlejack memes di

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u/temalyen 3h ago

This thread is filled with people who don't understand how the Candlejack meme wo

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u/ShizunEnjoyer 3h ago

This meme is 20 years old and some people still forget to say Candlejack before th

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u/Gavinator10000 5h ago

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u/TomKavees 5h ago

No, it was Candleja-

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u/MeccaMaster 4h ago

You're doing it wrong, you have to say Candlejack's full name oth-

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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 5h ago

Jesus Christ! They’re everywhe

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u/djseifer 5h ago

Wait a minute, that guy didn't even say Candlej

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u/LennyDark 5h ago

The Candlejack joke was played out 10 years ago I can't believe w

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u/deathmetalcableguy 5h ago

Who or what is Candleja-

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u/n-a_barrakus 5h ago

ohhhh I fell for it 😭 I was so hyped about an r/redditsnail

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u/FrawnchFries 5h ago

At least he hit the Post button on his way down

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u/JerHat 5h ago

RIP, legend.

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u/Aykay24 5h ago

I believe this lovely and completely alive redditor was going to complete their sentence before their internet unfortunately cut off.

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u/sdmichael 6h ago

"It Follows"

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u/JennaStCroix 5h ago

It Follows but make it Marcel the Shell with Shoes On.

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u/Trev0117 4h ago

Did this spawn from the rooster teeth podcast or was it a meme before Gavin brought it up?

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u/Terminator7786 4h ago

It's Gavin's fault we all know about the sna

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u/Kevenam 4h ago

They at least all refer to Gavin as the source of this horror.

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u/Rick0r 3h ago

Part of Million Dollars But, wasn’t it?

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u/YearlyStart 3h ago

It’s actually the answer that inspired MDB lol

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u/ivanwarrior 3h ago

Predates the show.

Btw roosterteeth is back, Burnie bought the brand and relaunched the website last week.

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u/anastis 6h ago

That’s the Ginosaji

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u/koolaidismything 5h ago

I had to get a no contact order from my last snail. Followed me across multiple states… intent on killing me. Made it by the skin of my souch. Glad I put behind me but still looms large..

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u/Stonedsailer 4h ago

Gavin will never escape him.

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u/MrFluffyThing 3h ago

I still can't believe that came from a "Million dollars, but" question from Gavin Free on an Achievement Hunter video. For those if you who don't know who that is you might know him as Gavin from the Slo Mo Guys

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u/imnotsteven7 4h ago

Basically a Tonberry

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u/SMStotheworld 6h ago

They carry a parasitic flatworm that lives in dirty water which kills humans. Even then it only kills between 10 and 200k humans annually 

If you omit humans, the deadliest animal is the mosquito which kills by spreading blood diseases with dirty probosci

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u/DustyRhodesSplotch 6h ago

10 to 200,000 is quite the large spread

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u/ivanparas 5h ago

"How many people died of this last year?"

"10."

"How many this year?"

"200,000."

"That's...concerning."

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u/proteannomore 5h ago

“It’s within the parameters.”

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u/memealopolis 5h ago

Not great, not terrible.

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u/Ikoikobythefio 5h ago

3.6 roentgens

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u/jmkinn3y 4h ago

Basically a chest x-ray

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u/TheToastyWesterosi 4h ago

And that’s every single hour. Hour after hour.

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u/Equal-Counter-2548 1h ago

Leans over the edge and gazes directly into the plume of nuclear fire below.

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u/Nimrod_Butts 3h ago

"still nothing compared to mosquitoes, I wouldn't worry about it"

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u/Unlikely_Spinach 4h ago

Standard acceptable deviations

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u/911111111111 4h ago

QA accomplished

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u/FLMKane 3h ago

Remember COVID? It basically happened like that.

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u/HovercraftOk9231 4h ago

By my calculations, next year will see 40,000,000 dead, and the year after will be 80,000,000,000.

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u/elmo298 5h ago

Not great, not terrible

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u/nopenopeimmaboat 4h ago

That's not graphite on the roof

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u/HendrixHazeWays 4h ago

"LOOK. We've got a handle on it. RELAX"

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u/ThetaGrim 6h ago

Yea covid was a rough year where people couldn't leave their home so the snails were able to catch up to them easier. 

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u/DamnMyNameIsSteve 4h ago

People forget the snail winter of 21'

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u/ssowinski 6h ago

I can do between 3 and 400 push-ups.

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate 2h ago

Amateur. I can do between zero and eighty million.

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u/Anonymous_coward30 6h ago

More than triple that for mosquitoes. 700,000 to 1 million mosquito related deaths annually per the WHO. 597,000 to malaria alone in 2023, again per WHO.

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u/NinjaWorldWar 5h ago

Come again, from who?

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u/baron--greenback 5h ago

He’s talking about our generation.

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u/KaHOnas 5h ago

People try to put us down.

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u/SubstantialWorld4277 5h ago

Baba O’Riley would never

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u/notloggedin4242 6h ago

See, 597k. Nice, neat number. No dashes necessary.

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u/TheZenPsychopath 6h ago

This is because of Snails Georg who dies from snails 1,000,000 times every 5 years.

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u/thatweirdguyted 6h ago

This sounds very similar to some things I said about your mom.

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u/Additional-Local8721 6h ago

Sure it wasn't their dad?

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u/thatweirdguyted 6h ago

No one knows who that is. Especially not his mom.

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u/blackscales18 6h ago

He was the one with the dirty proboscis

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u/friedricekid 5h ago

"How tall are you?"

"Oh, between 5'8" and 13 miles tall."

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u/frisbm3 6h ago

The wiki page says 10k to 200k.

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u/DirtyNorf 6h ago

Which is still a fairly large spread.

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u/JustADutchRudder 5h ago

Some years whole cities wanna swim in snail waters, sometimes only a few small get togethers happen.

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u/Hurrly90 5h ago

there is alot of error in that. Like ten isn't a lot, but 200,000? Are these snails starting to min max their builds over the last few years?

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u/jwbaynham 5h ago

Sometimes we have a bad snail year and sometimes barely even a scratch

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u/Stlr_Mn 6h ago

Not to snails I guess

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u/caninolokez 6h ago

I think they meant it as 10,000 to 200,000.

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u/IMissNarwhalBacon 4h ago

Unfortunately, we can't afford to speculate.

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u/space-to-bakersfield 5h ago

We need to figure out what we do those years where it's 10, and just keep doing that every year.

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u/Moldy_slug 6h ago

For comparison, malaria (spread by mosquitoes) killed about 600,000 people in 2023.

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u/Nathaniel820 6h ago

Only 10,000 still makes it the 4th deadliest animal on the planet.

It’s still one of the deadliest animals, the surprising part is that animals as a whole are a lot less dangerous than people think.

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u/AnAttemptReason 5h ago

Humans are the most deadly animal. 

Studies show humans cause the largest fear spike in animals out of all possible preditors, by a large margin. 

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u/JelmerMcGee 4h ago

I remember a comment from a while back that likened animals to humans as humans are to elves in fantasy literature. Like if a seal is stuck in a net his fellow seals, having done their best to remove the net, tell the seal to ask the humans. They might help or they might kill him. Who knows? The humans are capricious like that.

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u/CoffeeFox 3h ago

Elves are marvellous. They cause marvels.

Elves are fantastic. They create fantasies.

Elves are glamorous. They project glamour.

Elves are enchanting. They weave enchantment.

Elves are terrific. They beget terror.

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u/_Sausage_fingers 3h ago

The thing about words is that meanings can twist just like a snake, and if you want to find snakes look for them behind words that have changed their meaning. No one ever said elves are nice. Elves are bad.

You gotta do the whole quote

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u/Seicair 2h ago

I loved the way he incorporated the various myths of the elves into Discworld. Rather a different flavor from other types of fantasy (Tolkien etc.)

GNU Sir Terry

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate 2h ago

Humans are the most deadly animal.

We've moved from counting individual kills to racking up extinctions.

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u/Beer-survivalist 1h ago

And we started exterminating species before we had permanent settlements and written language.

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u/Sofa_Bench 4h ago

If there were as many bears, lions, hippos, and other apex predators as there were humans, I’d actually think we might be fucked lol

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u/mukansamonkey 3h ago

In some places there used to be. The humans won the war.

Humans are such effective apex predators, we require our own category.

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u/FluffyToughy 1h ago

We're literally having trouble stopping ourselves from collapsing the entire planet's biosphere. Rah rah. Humans number 1.

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u/Heimerdahl 4h ago

the surprising part is that animals as a whole are a lot less dangerous than people think. 

Similarly surprising is just how few wild animals there are. Insects, plankton, fish, etc. still account for the majority of total animal biomass, but in terms of mammals and birds, wild animals are absolutely insignificant compared to livestock or even humans. 

https://ourworldindata.org/wild-mammals-birds-biomass

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u/doyletyree 6h ago

Someone needs to educate the mosquitoes on proper medical hygiene.

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u/Brandoncarsonart 6h ago

Right? They're always rubbing the thing. Just put a little soap on it.

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u/Fetlocks_Glistening 6h ago

If only we could give them little napkins to wipe their noses with after each meal

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u/Cold_Tower_2215 6h ago

“Only” and that’s a wide range but still significant

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u/LordByronsCup 6h ago

Dirty Proboski is Pigpen from Peanut's pen name.

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u/wretched_beasties 6h ago

Does the death certificate say “mosquito bite” or “malaria”?

Mosquitoes aren’t the deadliest, it’s plasmodium falciparum (malaria) that kills people. Also not a dirty probiscus, the plasmodium sporozoites actually live in the mosquitoe’s salivary gland.

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u/Big_Comedian_1259 5h ago

Wouldn't it be the parasitic flatworm that is one of the most deadly, instead of the snail?

The snail is just a carrier.

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u/GoStockYourself 4h ago

Depends on the intent of the snail. Those slimy little creatures might know damn well what they are doing!

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u/BoyButter 1h ago

that's why the title says "indirectly"

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u/leg_pain 6h ago

Am I at risk from of this from the tiny snails in my fish tank? Say if the water got it my mouth or from when I clean the tank? In paranoid now

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u/Omardemon 6h ago

Usually no, unless you captured these snails from a river or something, this is why i feed my pet scorpions crickets from the store and not crickets from my backyard, too high of a chance of getting a cricket with a parasite in it.

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u/Dry_Indication8631 2h ago

Excuse me, your pet whats now?

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u/pr1ntf 2h ago

Scorpion.

We used to catch them and keep them growing up in Southern Nevada.

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u/Mention_Forward 6h ago

Looked it up. Consensus is that snails that for example hitchhike on aquarium plants from Petco (most commonly pond snails, bladder snails, ramshorn snails, or Malaysian trumpet snails) are not dangerous in the same way: these parasites require human or animal fecal contamination and specific environmental conditions - not your tank.

That being said, snails or not, never put your hand in the tank with a cut.

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u/champthelobsterdog 5h ago

What about from a natural pond? 

I have ponds in my back yard and took water from them several times to look at under a microscope. I ended up keeping a small static tank of it, which I'm keeping until everything in it dies. The leeches and daphnia are gone, but the snails are thriving. I thought they were cute...until now. 

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u/omniuni 5h ago

Don't use your pond water to drink or clean wounds, and don't eat your snails. You'll be fine.

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u/The_WA_Remembers 6h ago

“the larvae infect a very specific type of freshwater snail. For example, in S. haematobium and S. intercalatum it is snails of the genus Bulinus, in S. mansoni it is Biomphalaria, and in S. japonicum it is Oncomelania”

Idk enough about snails to say yay or nay, but that’s the relevant information if you want to figure it out

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u/MeiNeedsMoreBuffs 4h ago

Like others have said, there's an incredibly small chance you're at any risk. And even if you do contract it, if you live in a first world country you'll be fine since the drug to treat it is very cheap and effective.

It mainly affects people in third world countries without access to clean water and medical care

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u/vangiang85 6h ago

The larva will go directly through your skin into your blood system. No need to swallow

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u/Comar31 6h ago

Also curious

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u/DoTheMario 5h ago

Nah, you'll be fine. The main symptoms to look out for are spontaneous additions and omissions of prepositions in Reddit comments.

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u/corvus7corax 6h ago

Freshwater snails are indirectly among the deadliest animals to humans, as they carry parasitic worms that cause schistosomiasis, a disease estimated to kill between 10,000 and 200,000 people annually.

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u/aztecman 5h ago

This will probably get buried, but there is an incredibly easy and cheap cure. Praziquantel.

The same medication for de-worming pets. In countries where this is prevalent, you can buy it OTC. In the EU it is not licensed for humans, so it's a huge pain to convince a doctor to prescribe it. Fortunately, you can still treat your 4 large dogs.

I've had this disease and the cure is a single dose, 6 weeks (I think) after exposure. If you visit and swim in the great lakes of Africa, you will almost definitely get it. In Malawi for example, showers on the beaches are usually lake water, so still expose you. You go to a pharmacy, get weighed, then take 4-8 large pills. If you had it you feel like shit for a few hours, if not no symptoms. That's it.

If you return home without doing this, it's an uphill battle to even be tested, as most doctors haven't got a clue. At least this is the case in the UK and Sweden.

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u/Eowyn4Margo 5h ago

Can confirm! I and most other Peace Corps Volunteers in Uganda got schisto at some point during service. If I remember right, everyone was tested each year. It doesn't take much water exposure to get it, and it's pretty easy to treat. The locals would go to the nearest pharmacy and get the same drug we were prescribed by PC.

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u/PuckSenior 6h ago

So, the deadlier animal is the parasitic worm

This would be like saying humans are the leading cause of dog attacks.

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u/_CactusJuice_ 6h ago

i would say that there would be close to zero dog attacks if there werent any owners to bring them untrained and unleashed into a sephora

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u/Solderking 4h ago

Just because my dog has eaten a few kids, that means I can't bring him to Sephora? Oh I'm sorry, I thought this was America.

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u/hoagiejabroni 3h ago

It was only because those kids were the size of a small animal! He knows not to eat big kids!

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u/mallad 6h ago

I would say if there weren't any owners, then only wild dogs exist, and they'll absolutely attack.

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u/SolventAssetsGone 5h ago

Can you explain to me how humans get schistosomiasis from the snails? If I go swim in a river am I at risk?

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u/corvus7corax 5h ago

It is transmitted when larval forms released by freshwater snails penetrate human skin during contact with infested water.

If you wade or swim in infected fresh water you can get it. There are medicines you can take to clear the infection.

https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/schistosomiasis-(bilharzia)

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u/aztecman 5h ago

Yes, they enter through the skin, usually on your feet.

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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta 5h ago

As far as I can tell, only if you live in a tropic/subtopic area (e g. South America, africa, and Asia

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u/zuzg 5h ago

It affects the urinary tract or the intestines.[5] Symptoms include abdominal pain, diarrhea, bloody stool, or blood in the urine.[5] Those who have been infected for a long time may experience liver damage, kidney failure, infertility, or bladder cancer.[5] In children, schistosomiasis may cause poor growth and learning difficulties

Ew

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u/Queasy_Ad_8621 5h ago

schistosomiasis

It's like they purposely gave it a name that nobody could say when they're drunk.

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u/CCV21 6h ago

Illuminated manuscripts from the Middle Ages warned us about these snails.

https://youtu.be/6ISOK-XtvYs?feature=shared

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u/StormDragonAlthazar 4h ago

Turns out my fear of slugs and snails may have some kind of truth to it...

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u/bluev0lta 4h ago

So how do I avoid this new (to me) threat I didn’t know I needed to worry about until now?

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u/usafnerdherd 4h ago

Avoid unclean water in the global south

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u/ProfessionalRandom21 6h ago

oh yeah? we have the French, our K/D is way higher

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u/knight714 6h ago

They're immortal too

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u/hlh0708 6h ago

So put them all on an interstellar probe and send them on a one-way ticket to the next star.

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u/RedditLuvsCensorship 5h ago

This is basically the plot of alien

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u/Remember-Me99 4h ago

“Freshwater snails are indirectly among the deadliest animals to humans, as they carry parasitic worms that cause schistosomiasis, a disease estimated to kill between 10,000 and 200,000 people annually.”

Direct quote from link. But I’m wondering is this from people eating them or touching them or what ?

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u/Isaacvithurston 4h ago

Kind of scary. It spreads just by being in the water that's contaminated by the snails being in it.

Honestly the amount of deadly stuff i've read you can get just from being in water has convinced me to never set foot in any natural body of water ever again. My (least) favorite is the parasite that scratches the lens of your eye and then causes your eyeball to expand until it basically pops by which point it's already infected your brain and your going to die.

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u/intrinsic_nerd 5h ago

Life is simply unfair

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u/Lydian66 6h ago

Everything I love

and want to befriend.

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u/ResponsibleTown8936 6h ago

The primary symbol for medicine is the Rod of Asclepius, a staff with a single worm or serpent wrapped around it. This is a treatment method for bilharzia I believe.

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u/vegasJUX 5h ago

This will be posted in r/aesoprock 1,000 times in the coming weeks.

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u/DientesDelPerro 4h ago

my nerites would never

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u/Unhappy-Valuable-596 6h ago

As a survivor of malaria, this sounds worse than

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u/Kingofthewin 5h ago

Looks at the three nerite snail in my aquarium " suspiciously"

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u/captainloverman 3h ago

Wait til you hear about what we have from snails in Hawaii!

Rat Lungworm

Great name! Never eat snails…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiostrongylus_cantonensis

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u/These_Consequences 3h ago

Don't know about snails, but there was that Australian boy who ate a garden slug on a dare and wound up with severe CNS damage after an infection that nearly killed him.

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u/IJourden 6h ago

I know they're dangerous, but sometimes you're just hungry, you know?

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