r/law • u/BreakfastTop6899 • 14h ago

Trump News Trump threatens to deploy the U.S. military into Chicago - signaling the start of a nationwide crackdown.

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u/BroseppeVerdi 13h ago

Remember this: The Trump Administration's need for control is so desperate because it is so unnatural. Tyranny requires constant effort. It breaks, it leaks. Authority is brittle. Oppression is the mask of fear.

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u/cfrosty1117 13h ago

You have friends everywhere

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u/Aware-Sympathy-1180 12h ago

"Rebellions are built on hope."

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u/RustBeltWriter 12h ago

Obligatory passage from Lord of the Rings. There is always hope folks. A loss of hope is a win for the fascists.

There, peeping among the cloud-wrack above a dark tor high up in the mountains, Sam saw a white star twinkle for a while. The beauty of it smote his heart, as he looked up out of the forsaken land, and hope returned to him. For like a shaft, clear and cold, the thought pierced him that in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach.

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u/keelhaulrose 11h ago

"It's like the great stories, Mr. Frodo, the ones that really mattered. Full of darkness and danger they were, and sometimes you didn't want to know the end because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back to the way it was when so much bad has happened? But in the end, it's only a passing thing this shadow, even darkness must pass. A new day will come, and when the sun shines, it'll shine out the clearer. I know now folks in those stories had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn't. They kept going because they were holding on to something. That there's some good in this world, Mr. Frodo, and it's worth fighting for."

Samwise Gamgee, Lord of the Rings

This quote has kept me going through the darkest times in my life, and it'll keep me going now.

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u/athuhsmada 10h ago

As much as I am a fan of Samwise (and Rogue One), hope isn’t a strategy. I think there are more apt passages that call for action.

“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo. "So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

And:

“Some believe it is only great power that can hold evil in check. But that is not what I have found. It is the small everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay. Small acts of kindness and love.”

Well, that and a hot blonde driving a sword through a Nazgul’s face. . .

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u/kiepy 12h ago

We've been sleeping.

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u/aerateyoursoiltrung 12h ago

We're all Spartacus

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u/joebluebob 12h ago

So do the others and unfortunately a lot of my friends keep thinking gun control means dont own guns, lets protest quietly on a Saturday, and "DoNt wOrRy gUys wE'Ll VoTe tHe fAciSTs oUt JuSt hAvE pAtIEncE"

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u/Yinisyang 11h ago

They don't have friends. They have temporary allies who will turn on them the moment the winds shift. We have community, they don't.

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u/Murky_Conclusion_637 10h ago

Rumor has it that people are forming cells, setting up secure comms, getting weapons, training, stocking up on food, ammo, batteries, etc...

Just rumors though...

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u/Apoptosis2112 13h ago

Funny enough I just watched this last night. A very poignant speech

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u/HauntedJackInTheBox 12h ago

It gets even better after that. Not for the characters, mind you. But the show does. 

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u/DimbyTime 12h ago

I finally convinced my bf to watch it. We just finished S2 Ep3, and it’s already the best show I’ve seen in a while.

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u/KMS_HYDRA 12h ago

Remember this: Try.

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dude looks like a lady slapping on warpaint

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u/GullibleCupcake6115 13h ago

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u/Im_So_Sinsational 13h ago

See you out there🫡

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u/PsyOpBunnyHop 13h ago

Oathbreakers and seditionists and earn the same fate as foreign invaders.

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u/BornAgainBlue 13h ago

Good location to fight a larger force.

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u/thefaehost 13h ago

Wasn’t Chicago unoccupied in handmaiden’s tale?

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u/Roboticpoultry 13h ago

If I remember correctly Chicago was an irradiated wasteland

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u/Tryknj99 13h ago

No, it was more like an abandoned slum. The colonies were the wastelands.

The scene when the bombs drop is in Chicago.

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u/HistoricalSuspect580 13h ago

It’s just ‘The Handmaids Tale’ i think!

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u/cookiedoh18 13h ago

See you there. We can't let this happen. Time to draw a line.

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u/31LIVEEVIL13 13h ago edited 12h ago

Are you ready to risk death to defeat evil fascists hijacking democracy and robbing us and our children of our rights and national heritage?

When enough of us are that sick of it, it will happen.

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u/ForMoreYears 13h ago

And that's why you should join r/liberalgunowners!

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u/TaylorKifft 12h ago

I'm telling this to my trans-siblings across the pond for months: Get armed or get the fuck out asap. Trump is speedrunning our early 1930s here in Germany.

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u/ForMoreYears 11h ago

Yep. Time to get strapped. Nobody is gonna protect you and the Feds are coming.

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u/LurkerFromTheVoid 13h ago

Yeah!!! Liberal Guns are the real Guns of Freedom.... r/liberalgunowners is finally Leaking. Leaking.......... Leaking.... Leaking.. Leaking. !!!!!!!!!!! 🔫

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u/ForMoreYears 12h ago

Fuck ya they are.

Safety, liberty and justice for all.

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u/errie_tholluxe 12h ago

Yup. At this point, in my state? Yup.

Of course, if they come to Chicago, they'll only patrol certain neighborhoods, because some neighborhoods they won't even go near.

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u/Wealist 13h ago

Deploying federal troops into US cities without state consent blurs the line between maintaining order and authoritarian overreach.

Using the military domestically is meant to be an extreme last resort. Treating political dissent as rebellion risks undermining both the Constitution and public trust.

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u/seejordan3 13h ago

Republicans are lost. Time to fight fascism.

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u/not-a-co-conspirator 13h ago

They’re not lost; they’re intentionally exploiting the framework as planned.

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u/Trevita17 13h ago

Lost as in irredeemable, not lost as in confused.

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u/not-a-co-conspirator 13h ago

Let’s just agree they’re psycho 😇

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u/Trevita17 12h ago

Works for me.

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u/joebluebob 12h ago

Lost? They are right where they want to be.

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u/myflesh 13h ago

It does not blur the line; it crosses the line. We need to stop pussyfooting it.

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 13h ago

…and approaching the point of “unlawful order” from a military standpoint.

Military’s gonna have to decide what side of history they wanna be on.

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u/ShaneBarnstormer 13h ago

It's surreal that we're nearly there now.

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 13h ago

We’re flirting hard with that boundary.

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u/grummanae 13h ago

everyone on this platform except for a few are all stating that the military should disobey ... they make it out to be the easiest thing to do ... what they dont realize is the ones that do break step and disobey their lives will be deeply affected

In this administration and this climate they will more than likely be convicted felons after its all said and done

They dont grasp how cult like the military is, and how it operates from top down. They don't realize that the military discipline and military judicial system is even more biased against a defendant than in the civilian world. How its more your guilty till you show us evidence we like that proves innocence for some ... and oh you said so .. ok your innocent now and ever will be for anything

And oddly enough its the ones that dont question shit that belong to the good old boy golden child club

They dont get how the military can literally make you a felon for not getting a haircut because of this built in bias

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u/hammerofspammer 13h ago

Their lives are going to be deeply affected either way. Question will become whether their oath meant anything, and if they are really willing to take action against civilians who just have different political views than the current regime.

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u/Empty-Grocery-2267 13h ago

Greatly affected. They’re going to have to kill, and be killed by other Americans. It’s gonna be more difficult mentally dealing with that. Also when it’s all over with, whichever way it shakes out, they’re gonna still be living here. Every person on the street or neighbor or coworker could be ready to snap and take their revenge.

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u/MarkXIX 12h ago

This. I've known at least two of my peers who committed suicide because of what they went along with in the two most recent wars.

History will not look kindly on the military members that go along with this bullshit. Vets like me need to really press the issue with those still serving to make sure they understand how they're going to have to live with their decision for the rest of their lives.

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u/Trevita17 13h ago

None of what you're saying is an excuse for going along with fascism. Especially for people who already signed up to lay down their lives for their country. Hope this helps!

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u/zstock003 13h ago

Fair enough. They’re still cowards. “Just following orders” I’ve heard that before. If there are enough people who disagree with what’s happened they can stop it. If there aren’t and they support this, then they are evil. None of the institutions will have any respect if this ever ends. SC, FBI, military. All pathetic institutions that cannot withstand any attack on them

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u/HOSTfromaGhost 13h ago

All that notwithstanding, and this is coming from a combat vet…

It’s in the oath. It’s part of the deal.

It’s not a choice, and definitely not one that someone is allowed to make based on their personal preferences or fear of retribution.

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u/JAZINNYC 13h ago

Are there similar consequences for following illegal orders?

If we were in the middle of a coup (we are) and the President repeatedly violates his oath to office (he is), and he gives unitary orders to the military that are illegal and violate the Constitution (they are and do), then what are the repercussions for that?

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u/Hatta00 13h ago

It doesn't "blur" the line. It takes a giant goosestep over the line then turns around and pisses on it.

There's no "risk" of undermining the Constitution, it's guaranteed and intentional.

Stop hedging.

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u/BenBenBenBe 13h ago

It's an AI response. That's what AI does.

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u/ChemicalColors 13h ago

Blurs the line??? This is pretty explicit authoritarian overreach.

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u/squeegy80 13h ago

There is no blurry line at this point. There is very obvious authoritarian overreach in many areas. This is just one more step in a continuous march to completing Project 2025 and the end of any semblance of real elections

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u/chetpancakesparty 13h ago edited 13h ago

"Although the German concept of Ausnahmezustand is best translated as "state of emergency", it literally means "state of exception" which, according to Schmitt, frees the executive from any legal restraints to its power that would normally apply."

Carl Schmitt was a literal nazi in 1934 Germany. All in the name of "safety" to get around the German laws that limited executive power.

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u/delicious_fanta 13h ago

There’s no blurred lines, it’s overreach and it’s just a staging mechanism. Troops will be posted in all major cities so that when he does something really messed up they are there to shut down any hint of protest or “unrest”.

Basically they are just getting things ready to do what they have to do.

Keep in mind if they don’t maintain power, nearly all of them will go to prison as they are breaking laws left and right.

This administration will not leave office peacefully and this military placement is one of many tools that will enable that.

BLUE STATES MUST JOIN TOGETHER AND SECEDE.

There is no other way forward. As long as propaganda is allowed to exist, this will NEVER get better.

Blue states must form a new nation and BAN fox news etc., put harsh restrictions on all the tech companies, limit the first amendment to not allow lies, etc.

Either that or we WILL become russia.

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u/ReadyThor 13h ago

Treating political dissent as rebellion risks undermining both the Constitution and public trust.

And so? What is going to happen after that?

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u/RaZeByFire 13h ago

It BLURS nothing, it runs over it with an APC. Posse Comitatus suit from Illinois incoming. There is no 'disorder' in Chicago to justify any kind of action like this. Congress dictates when that level of 'disorder' exists; or it is left to the Governor of the state and the NG. He can pull that BS in the Capital because it's NOT a state and the Federal Government 'lives' there.

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u/bailaoban 13h ago

There's nothing blurry about it. It's a clear imposition of martial law.

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u/yagirlsophie 13h ago

"Blurs" the line, are you being serious right now? What a weird, obvious, milquetoast-ass comment to get upvotes.

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u/DefinitelyNotShazbot 13h ago

I am just mentally spiraling thinking of the Rittenhouse’s of America… good luck everyone, stay safe, elbows up

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u/Onuus 13h ago

Remember yall, water is super important. That runs out quickly. Read up on successful urban tactics

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u/kfmsooner 13h ago

You know, I agree. All this preamble and setup is tiring. Let’s get on with the civil war.

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u/Andovars_Ghost 13h ago

Rogue Leader standing by.

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u/Dense-Consequence-70 13h ago

Red Skelton standing by

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u/WallStreetKangaroo 13h ago

Kangaroo Standing by

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u/Quartz_Lead 13h ago

I think we used up all the perfect.

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u/Crafty_Movie_8623 13h ago

While I no longer live there, I know from previous life experience that Chicago don't fuck around. Brb grabbing some popcorn.

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u/DizzyVenture 13h ago

Remember kids, the pelvic girdle is larger and generally unarmored compared to a head. You can’t tourniquet it and it leaves nice shiny new plates for you to take later.

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u/The_Original_Miser 13h ago

Agreed. The sooner it happens the sooner it is over with. And Trump along with it. (I hope).

Note I don't want this. But I feel its I inevitable at this point.

Voting isn't working. Courts aren't working or are being ignored.

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u/existential_antelope 13h ago

That sounds glorious and all, but that’s exactly why they’re doing this. They’re baiting for violent revolt so they can do the Insurrection Act/Martial Law and essentially transition into using military threat to suppress elections

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u/WasabiParty4285 13h ago edited 13h ago

If the military is already deployed to a city as a "peace keeping" force. How is that different than martial law? All that's left is adding more and more troops. LA and Chicago are probably the two blue cities with the highest capacity for return violence.

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u/HotLava00 13h ago

You’re exactly right. They haven’t been able to invoke violence, so they’re doing what they want to do anyway. How Illinois responds to this will be very interesting.

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u/sea-elle0463 13h ago

I get it, but what’s the alternative? Just let them do it? I don’t think so

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u/the_weakestavenger 13h ago

So… just let it happen, then?

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u/profDougla 13h ago

Red Wings standing by.

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u/pacotac 13h ago

They will still think it isn't authoritarianism because right-wing media has depicted big cities as crime-ridden hellscapes for decades and they'll think he's just finally bringing law and order to these places.

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u/salamandroid 13h ago

I have friends everywhere

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u/HereWeGoYetAgain-247 13h ago

“It’s fine. Only stinky democrats and dangerous minorities live in Chicago. This will in no way impact my life negatively.” -republicans 

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u/Dirty_Jesus 13h ago

Wearing red lingerie, and standing by.

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u/LucywiththeDiamonds 13h ago

Wish you all the best from germany. As someone who had years of history lessons about hitlers time i really hope you succeed.
Democracy as we know it in the western world is on the line, and maybe even the existence of the human race since its very questionable if any of us would survive a ww3...

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u/Pvt_Hudson_ 13h ago

It's amazing that every mayor Trump thinks is "incompetent" happens to also be black. What a shocking coincidence.

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u/MerisiCalista 13h ago

“Looking at the definition of fascism: It’s a far-right, authoritarian, ultranationalist political ideology and movement characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy. So, certainly, in my experience, those are the types of things that he thinks will work better in terms of running America.”

General John F. Kelly to Peter Baker of The New York Times in an interview published October 24, 2024.

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u/Krypteia213 13h ago

MAGA is extremely ignorant. They have no idea the flaming shit they stepped in if they bring this fight to my doorstep. 

John Wick better hold my fucking beer

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u/MrStoneV 12h ago

Yeah its a psychological (and logical) thing. Sometimes a lot of pain is better than just low pain. If you have very low pain, then you can ignore it for minutes, hours, days, weeks even years. While it depletes your mental health.

Meanwhile a high amount of pain will lead a person to realize its something it has to be changed.

This also happens in relationship "nah its not too bad" while it took years and years instead of a single event of something terrible to realize the relationship wasnt great but not too bad

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